installing camshafts QUESTION
crabby760
10-31-2004, 01:43 AM
aye i got a 98 civic ex with the stock d16y8 motor i have intake/header/exhaust i just bought a crower stage 2 camshaft and a skunk 2 camgear curious what steps have to be done in order to install a camshaft let me know thanks....
BullShifter
10-31-2004, 02:28 PM
The job is pretty straight forward, I would rate it 2 on scale of 0-5 5 being the hardest. Proper torque is very important!
Here's a link for a 91 D16 head section from a factory repair manual, yours will be very close but I suggest the proper manual to get the proper torque spec's.
91 D16 - http://www.binghamtonlife.com/manual/2gsm/cylinder_head_valve_train.htm
Manuals - www.helminc.com or go to a honda dealer & ask if you can copy the pages needed.
To get the most of it a ported and polished head, instake & throttle body are very important. Valve springs are a good idea also. For the full benefit of a cam gear & other listed mods dyno tuning is the only way to go.
Here's a link for a 91 D16 head section from a factory repair manual, yours will be very close but I suggest the proper manual to get the proper torque spec's.
91 D16 - http://www.binghamtonlife.com/manual/2gsm/cylinder_head_valve_train.htm
Manuals - www.helminc.com or go to a honda dealer & ask if you can copy the pages needed.
To get the most of it a ported and polished head, instake & throttle body are very important. Valve springs are a good idea also. For the full benefit of a cam gear & other listed mods dyno tuning is the only way to go.
crabby760
10-31-2004, 05:22 PM
so far i have installed i/h/e
to be installed is
3 piece pulley kit UR
crower stage 3 camshaft
skunk 2 cam gear
then i wanna buy a vafc and get it dyno tuned
to be installed is
3 piece pulley kit UR
crower stage 3 camshaft
skunk 2 cam gear
then i wanna buy a vafc and get it dyno tuned
Eddiebx
11-01-2004, 12:06 PM
isntall is staright foward, tips:
make sure its at TDC BEFORE you remove the tming belt
and use plenty of assembly lube, =)
make sure its at TDC BEFORE you remove the tming belt
and use plenty of assembly lube, =)
civickiller
11-02-2004, 06:15 PM
you said stage 2 in the first post and stage 3 in the second which one is it ? also you gotta install valve springs because of the extra lift it will cause binding with stock valves, unless otherwise noted
crabby760
11-02-2004, 07:08 PM
even if i dont rev past 7k rpm?
BullShifter
11-03-2004, 01:05 AM
yes, you should install the springs with any aftermarket cam in my opinion.
crabby760
11-03-2004, 04:24 AM
can anyone give me step by step installation instructions for installing a camshaft and cam gear on a d16y8 motor please... thanks
BullShifter
11-03-2004, 07:45 PM
The job is pretty straight forward, I would rate it 2 on scale of 0-5 5 being the hardest. Proper torque is very important!
Here's a link for a 91 D16 head section from a factory repair manual, yours will be very close but I suggest the proper manual to get the proper torque spec's.
91 D16 - http://www.binghamtonlife.com/manual/2gsm/cylinder_head_valve_train.htm
Manuals - www.helminc.com or go to a honda dealer & ask if you can copy the pages needed.
To get the most of it a ported and polished head, instake & throttle body are very important. Valve springs are a good idea also. For the full benefit of a cam gear & other listed mods dyno tuning is the only way to go.
start by checking out the links I orginally posted. No offense but if you can not figure it out from there I would suggest pro. installation
Here's a link for a 91 D16 head section from a factory repair manual, yours will be very close but I suggest the proper manual to get the proper torque spec's.
91 D16 - http://www.binghamtonlife.com/manual/2gsm/cylinder_head_valve_train.htm
Manuals - www.helminc.com or go to a honda dealer & ask if you can copy the pages needed.
To get the most of it a ported and polished head, instake & throttle body are very important. Valve springs are a good idea also. For the full benefit of a cam gear & other listed mods dyno tuning is the only way to go.
start by checking out the links I orginally posted. No offense but if you can not figure it out from there I would suggest pro. installation
crabby760
11-04-2004, 03:48 AM
i just need torque specs for the cam caps and whatever else holds it down...
and valve adjustment specs for intake and exhaust.... please thanks
its a d16y8 also
and valve adjustment specs for intake and exhaust.... please thanks
its a d16y8 also
civickiller
11-04-2004, 05:32 AM
the sheet that comes with the cam might have valve adjustment specs on it.
if you get some kidn of manual for the car, haynes, chiltons, helms it will give instrutions on how to change a cam and torque specs
if you get some kidn of manual for the car, haynes, chiltons, helms it will give instrutions on how to change a cam and torque specs
crabby760
11-04-2004, 07:57 PM
nothing cam with the camshaft guys..... can someone find me valve adjustment specs for the d16y8 please and torque specs to bolt down the camshaft... thank u
GTR2b
11-04-2004, 08:45 PM
crabby,
you seriously need to get a service manual for your car BEFORE you take one bolt off that car! Read it cover to cover and it will outline in great detail everything you need to know. Most include pictures as well.
If you don't heed this advice, you will be right back on the forums asking why your engine doesn't start, or asking if bent valves are a "bad thing". The risk of damage to your new cam, valves, and other components is too great.
But, it's your car... do what you want but don't say you weren't warned.
you seriously need to get a service manual for your car BEFORE you take one bolt off that car! Read it cover to cover and it will outline in great detail everything you need to know. Most include pictures as well.
If you don't heed this advice, you will be right back on the forums asking why your engine doesn't start, or asking if bent valves are a "bad thing". The risk of damage to your new cam, valves, and other components is too great.
But, it's your car... do what you want but don't say you weren't warned.
crabby760
11-04-2004, 08:48 PM
doesnt someone on here know the specs i am asking for?
whtteg
11-04-2004, 09:56 PM
Please go to www.helminc.com (http://www.helminc.com/) and buy a manual. It will only take a couple of days to get it and it will tell you everything you ever wanted to know about your car. Please I urge you to buy one, they are invaluable.
97integrals
11-04-2004, 10:54 PM
doesnt someone on here know the specs i am asking for?
Buy the hayes manual it is woth it, it would take some one two hours to write out the step by step instructions, The manual gives you all specs, step buy step instructions w/pics. If you don't do this right you will seriously screw up your engine.
Buy the hayes manual it is woth it, it would take some one two hours to write out the step by step instructions, The manual gives you all specs, step buy step instructions w/pics. If you don't do this right you will seriously screw up your engine.
97integrals
11-04-2004, 11:07 PM
I just read some of your other post in this forum and my new suggestion to you would be to take your car to the pros. let them do this.
crabby760
11-13-2004, 05:49 PM
allrite finally did the install.... cam shaft and camg ear... we did everything perfect lubed up the cam before installing it lined up the crank with the cam gear... everything was timed good... car idles fine little sluggish... but my valves are CLICKING LOUD AS FUCK and i drove the car has no power througout the whole rpm band NO POWER AT ALL...
do u t hink its cause the valves are too loose and need adjustment? let me know guys....
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alos the motor fucking screams loud sounds like when u bog out but the whole time im flooring it
do u t hink its cause the valves are too loose and need adjustment? let me know guys....
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alos the motor fucking screams loud sounds like when u bog out but the whole time im flooring it
whtteg
11-13-2004, 09:56 PM
Try adjusting the valve lash and then drive it agian and see how it does.
BullShifter
11-14-2004, 02:07 PM
Since the rocker assy. was removed it is absolutely required to adjust the valves.
Also the ECU should be reset and allowed to re-learn.
Disconnect battery for 15 seconds
Start car and let idle until cooling fan comes on, during that time DO NOT touch the gas pedal.
Also the ECU should be reset and allowed to re-learn.
Disconnect battery for 15 seconds
Start car and let idle until cooling fan comes on, during that time DO NOT touch the gas pedal.
crabby760
11-14-2004, 11:38 PM
ok i did the valve job today.. intake set to .009 and exhaust was .011 and after i was done i started it up and the ticking is WAY LOUDER THEN BEFORE...
before i adjusted them they were all very very tight.....
intakes were like .004 and exhuast like .006 but even after the adjustment... ITS EVEN WORSE NOW!!!
any ideas?
before i adjusted them they were all very very tight.....
intakes were like .004 and exhuast like .006 but even after the adjustment... ITS EVEN WORSE NOW!!!
any ideas?
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