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kamelier2002
10-30-2004, 10:07 PM
Hey...I am looking for a WAI or CAI for a 2002 Chevy Cavalier 2.2L that is not an ecotec or a Z24. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good intake kit that is not too pricey?

Most of the intakes I find are too expensive, or they are for the wrong year/model/engine. Any suggestion should help!

Also, I like the style of the Toucan intake kits- but, I have only seen them available for 2.4L's. Does anyone know if it is possible to modify a Toucan to fit on a 2.2L? :uhoh:

Thanks!

Mangoamerican
10-31-2004, 01:09 AM
the cheapest way to get a cai is to build it yourself! find somebody with some welding skills and get some tube!

Classicrocjunkie
10-31-2004, 01:12 AM
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/172487597844_148_full.jpg

mine is custom fab.... lemme know if your interested... or just e-mail...

[email protected] He is the man that you need to talk to, just tell him cody gave you the info..

FuzzyLog1c
11-01-2004, 08:17 AM
Where could one find instructions for a project like that? I'm certain i could figure it out, but i would like to know all the details before hand. I can get all the parts i need from Canadian Tire for relatively cheap. Im gonna search right now, i'll post here if i find anything.

FuzzyLog1c
11-01-2004, 08:21 AM
well, here's a question for ya, can i buy any old short ram kit and just mod the connection to my ecotech's stock intake? Or, does the problem lie with the bend and shape of the actual piping not fitting under the hood?

Classicrocjunkie
11-01-2004, 11:35 AM
well like i said its a custom made... i know a few people who own a small side business called RD Fabs... the intake is comprised of 4 mandrel bend stainless steel pieces welded together then the welds were ground down and polished.... but another thing you can do is....purchase these and make it yourself...

Parts needed:
1- 92-2000 Honda Civic intake
1- 3 inch 90 degree rubber elbow
1- 3 inch cone filter
1- PCV breather filter
2- 3 inch hose clamps

but personally i'd rather have something meant for the car and not a choppy home creation... you should look at Kustmace's CAI... its functional but is prolly the most ghetto setup i've seen...

here's a better pic of mine...
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/597000-597999/597844_147_full.jpg

in chris's sunfire...

http://tunerrevolution.com/store/images/2200shortram.jpg

then the custom fab'd... CAI on chris's car..

http://tunerrevolution.com/store/images/2200cai.jpg

these parts are way below factory prices and include everything for a complete install...

FuzzyLog1c
11-01-2004, 09:43 PM
well, damn. Those look pretty nice. I truley appreciate your advice, I think i just got myself a project for this weekend.
Hell, I could prolly find an intake off of a honda in a matter of a couple hours and the local Pick-a-Part, as for the tubing, that's a piece of cake. I can polish/powedercoat and what not to make it look less ghetto. I'll post pics for sure!

FuzzyLog1c
11-01-2004, 09:46 PM
hmm, My engine looks completely different than the ones in those pics.
IfI'm not mistaken, the intake comes off the front of the engine, in both those pics it seems to originate from the back.

Mine's a 2.2L ecotech, from a 2002 z24.

Classicrocjunkie
11-01-2004, 10:36 PM
u said in the first post thats its not an ecotec 2.2 or a 2.4L z24.... so you have an ecotec then?.. well here's the intake RD fabs makes for your ecotec..

http://tunerrevolution.com/store/images/Eco%20Short%20Front.jpg

another not.. you cannot use the civic intakes for the ecotec.. you have to buy one or get into a real custom fab'd project going.... civic intakes will only work for the 2.2L LN4 and the 2200 LN4.... the engines above were the 2200 LN4...i forgot how much the ecotec intake was... i know its a little more than 100 since there it more parts for it... still give chris an e-mail...

scratch all of that.... the person in the first post is different from you... sorry... personally i would just buy an intake meant for the ecotec... it will make for a cleaner look....

FuzzyLog1c
11-02-2004, 08:11 AM
I already talked to Chris about it, we are working out the details. I'm undecided if i want the CAI or the short ram.. I was inquiring about the differance in performance... I'm in canada, so any air the short ram is gonna get is gonna be hella cold already. Summer is only about 15 minutes long here.

01Cavy
11-02-2004, 12:10 PM
CRJ how much would they charge to make a WAI or CAI for a 2001 2.2? And will they ship? I like the looks of those!

Classicrocjunkie
11-02-2004, 12:31 PM
there is a site... www.tunerrevolution.com that sells RD fab's products... but if you go right to chris its much less.... i paid 100 bucks for my WAI and i believe the CAI goes for 195.... just e-mail chris....

[email protected] and just say Cody (CRJ) mentioned him to you... yes they will ship but it will be more than 100 after shipping... when i found out about chris and his friends they only lived 30 min from my house and now i'm friends with them and we help eachother out... so i didn't pay shipping... just e-mail and you will get a fast response...

KustmAce
11-02-2004, 12:54 PM
Shit, a hundred bucks is still too much. My total was $70, and its a true Cold Air Intake.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/559000-559999/559749_72_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/559000-559999/559749_73_full.jpg

Air Filter- $20
Air Bypass Valve- $50
Pipe- Free

Classicrocjunkie
11-02-2004, 04:11 PM
I'll be nice and not say what i have to think about that Kustmace...

I'd like to hear why u think its a true CAI?... Yes it appears to run down into your fender.. but you see, that black rubber hose... has ridges inside of that and has the potential of slowing down air flow.. No doubt its functional, but i hope you don't open your hood at a car show or meet... but Kudos on the idea..

01Cavy
11-02-2004, 05:24 PM
If I had the machine to bend the pipe I'd make my own cai, but I dont. Maybe I can find someone that does. And yes $100 is a bit much. Thanks anyways though CRJ.

Classicrocjunkie
11-02-2004, 05:50 PM
01 cavy.... if you have the non-ecotec... you can do the civic intake that i mentioned above... but that will come pretty close to 100 bucks aswell... adding HP isn't cheap...

01Cavy
11-02-2004, 06:23 PM
Yeah I know it isn't cheap...but I'm sure I can save money by making my own. I had a friend that worked at a job that had a machine that could bend pipes, but he's no longer there. Maybe I can get a muffler shop to do it for me.

bighead
11-02-2004, 07:09 PM
Money is relative..Is $100 bucks too much for a lap dance? Maybe, but I bet you'll want more when she's done... Pay the money, buy the toys, or ride the bus.

FuzzyLog1c
11-02-2004, 07:17 PM
I work in the midst of about 8 different machine shops, and quite a few custom car shops... Right in the heart of an industrial type area. I'm sure i could convince one of these places to bend some pipes for me for relatively cheap. The piping itself is pretty cheap too.

100 bucks US is alot to you guys? Man, I have small Canadian dollars here... that's like $15,000CND at the current conversion rate.

I can do it for 50 bucks + parts canadian dollars, on my lunch break :)

Classicrocjunkie
11-02-2004, 10:53 PM
Move to the U.S. then... i personally think all money should be worth the same damn thing.... i think the exchange rate in ontairo right now is 35-40%... but hey w/e floats your boat guys... i was just trying to help you all out by tellin you someone i know who does them... but like Bighead said-"Money is relative..Is $100 bucks too much for a lap dance? Maybe, but I bet you'll want more when she's done... Pay the money, buy the toys, or ride the bus.".... thats all there needs to be said here...

FuzzyLog1c
11-03-2004, 08:09 AM
werd.

KustmAce
11-07-2004, 10:44 PM
i hope you don't open your hood at a car show or meet...

:flipa:

bighead
11-07-2004, 11:36 PM
That is cool... flipa

Classicrocjunkie
11-08-2004, 11:04 AM
yea...i know i am # 1... here's my appreciation :nutkick:
I give you benefit of the doubt... its functional, but look sooo F'n ghetto and redneck...

KustmAce
11-08-2004, 02:13 PM
its functional, but look sooo F'n ghetto and redneck...

Yet he who is with out rice cast the first stone.

http://img127.exs.cx/img127/5861/aaa4.jpg

And I might value your opinion, but I have been insulted on my craftmanship and taste by people with MUCH nicer cars than yours.

That being said, this argument is over. If you wish to continue, PM me.

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