A Spray That Makes Your License Plate Invinsible?
george0810
10-28-2004, 01:01 AM
I recently came across a website ( www.platefade.com (http://) ) that sells a spray thats supposed to make you r license plate invinsible to red light cameras and photo radar. There are also some news clips from NBC, FOX, ABC....etc. that are pretty impressive. I would like to know if anyone has used this spray before i buy A can.
clawhammer
10-28-2004, 07:19 AM
I've never used it myself, but here's the catch: it doesn't work on red light cameras that don't use a flash. Around where I live, they don't use red light cameras period, so I don't know how many percent of them use a flash, but from what I heard, even in daylight the flash is pretty bright, and this spray causes the picture to get overexposed, thus making your licence plate number invisible.
rwood13
11-10-2004, 03:42 PM
where do you live? if your running red lights on purpose I don't want to be anywhere around
clawhammer
11-10-2004, 04:09 PM
^Every once in a while it happens to all of us. Heavy traffic, long traffic lights, people talking on their phones when it goes green, etc. It happens to all of us. It's not necessarily puposefully running lights.
rwood13
11-11-2004, 11:15 AM
if your looking to hide your plate sonds like your looking to run the lights ..... agree, it does happen, happened to me a couple of years ago, took a diff way to work, looking for a street I didn't relize the light was turning until too late, good news no camera, bad news cop sitting on the cross street, oh well, such is life
lwpat
11-12-2004, 09:53 PM
In addition the systems are not infallible. Las Angeles County had to return over 500,000 in fines because of problems and malfunctions. Other areas have been caught actually shortening the yellow light timing to increase the number of people running the light. These cameras are big business and money talks.
In one city the judge will automatically dismiss the ticket if you plead not guilty because of the problems. However they fail to tell this to the numerous others who just send in their money.
The cops and camera companies tell you the spray does not work. Other reports are mixed. For the money it is worth it if you live in an area with these cameras. After you spray the plate place a couple of washers under the bottom screws to tilt it slightly upwards. Along with the spray this helps to distort the numbers.
Here is a link where you can order and find more information. Currently offering one can free when you buy two.
Phantom Plate Specials (http://www65.safesecureweb.com/phantomplate/affiliatewiz/aw.asp?B=13&A=164&Task=Click)
In one city the judge will automatically dismiss the ticket if you plead not guilty because of the problems. However they fail to tell this to the numerous others who just send in their money.
The cops and camera companies tell you the spray does not work. Other reports are mixed. For the money it is worth it if you live in an area with these cameras. After you spray the plate place a couple of washers under the bottom screws to tilt it slightly upwards. Along with the spray this helps to distort the numbers.
Here is a link where you can order and find more information. Currently offering one can free when you buy two.
Phantom Plate Specials (http://www65.safesecureweb.com/phantomplate/affiliatewiz/aw.asp?B=13&A=164&Task=Click)
hightek
11-23-2004, 12:57 PM
why don't you just not run red lights? that you don't have to spend money on the spray and can stop putting people in danger
JekylandHyde
11-24-2004, 01:09 PM
I work for the DriveTime section of a regional newspaper and we tested these products and:
1. They do not work.
2. Even if they did wipe out your plate under a flash photo, it wouldn't matter because traffic cams do not use flash.
1. They do not work.
2. Even if they did wipe out your plate under a flash photo, it wouldn't matter because traffic cams do not use flash.
lwpat
11-24-2004, 08:52 PM
I work for the DriveTime section of a regional newspaper and we tested these products
Please post the reference and the article information. I have been looking for a source that has independently tested it. The red light cameras do have a flash.
Please post the reference and the article information. I have been looking for a source that has independently tested it. The red light cameras do have a flash.
va-un4given
11-26-2004, 06:55 AM
[QUOTE=george0810]I recently came across a website ( www.platefade.com (http://) ) that sells a spray thats supposed to make you r license plate invinsible to red light cameras and photo radar. There are also some news clips from NBC, FOX, ABC....etc. that are pretty impressive. I would like to know if anyone has used this spray before i buy A can.[/QUOTE
yes the stuff works....but i dont reccoment blasting through redlights, but the occasional slip up its a great way to protect against it. I know in virginia the state cops supposdly have a way now to test for it with some kind of hand held light. so be warned there figuring out how to test for it
yes the stuff works....but i dont reccoment blasting through redlights, but the occasional slip up its a great way to protect against it. I know in virginia the state cops supposdly have a way now to test for it with some kind of hand held light. so be warned there figuring out how to test for it
JekylandHyde
11-26-2004, 07:44 AM
From the Reading Eagle newspaper in Reading, PA. Nov 14, 2004.
I am the person who did the actual testing along with 2 coworkers that witnessed.
PhotoBlocker spray claims questioned
The product’s legality and its effectiveness in attempts to evade traffic light cameras and radar is examined locally.
There are products on the market these days that make a lot of prom-ises: knives that can cut through steel, pills that can eliminate cellulite, potions that can make a person look 20 years younger ... but do they work?
That was what the Reading Eagle Drive Time’s staff wanted to know about the product called PhotoBlocker, which claims to make license plates invisible to traffic light and toll booth cameras when sprayed onto a license plate.
So, we decided to test it to see if this was true.
Following the directions on the can, the license plate was cleaned and dried. Then, the product was sprayed as directed on the surface of the plate. After the spraying was completed and a “glossy coating was obtained” on the surface of the license plate, the plate was re-attached to the automobile. Then, a series of photographs were taken of the plate, with and without the flash.
When the photographs were observed, however, it appeared that the license plate number became more crystal clear than it had been be-fore the spray was applied.
This didn’t make any sense, seeing as the claim was the spray made license plates invisible to cameras. What should have resulted after spraying, according to www.photoblocker.com, was a glare over the en-tire plate, preventing the numbers from being legible.
We contacted the people at PhotoBlocker to find out where we had gone wrong.
Joe Scott, director of marketing for the company, explained the rea-son our test didn’t work had to do with our cameras and the conditions.
The cameras installed on traffic lights can’t adjust to the environ-ment, said Scott. In addition, our car wasn’t moving when the photo was taken. That may have an affect on the outcome, as well.
And Scott emphasized one point: it only takes one number to be blurred on the picture of the license plate in order for it to work.
So maybe Scott was right. Our photo may have come out crystal clear, but we didn’t exactly reenact the scenario to a tee.
But even if this stuff does work, is it legal?
The PhotoBlocker company says yes, but according Sgt. Nicholas Bo-lognese of the Cumru Township Police Department, an amendment to Section 1332 of the Pennsylvania vehicle code states otherwise.
“Obscuring a license plate has always been illegal,” said Bolognese.
According to Bolognese, Section 1332 in its previous version stated, in part, that “it is unlawful to display on any vehicle a registration plate which is so dirty as to prevent the reading of number or letters thereon at a reasonable distance or is otherwise illegible at a reasonable dis-tance or is obscured in any manner."
But to makes things even more clear, Bolognese said this statute was amended in 2004.
“I am not sure if it was in response to attempts to defeat the auto-mated red light system but the legislature chose to amend Section 1332 (b) this way: Obscuring plate. It is unlawful to display on any vehicle a registration plate which: (1) Is so dirty as to prevent the reading of the number or letters thereon at a reasonable distance; (2) Is obscured in any manner which inhibits the proper operation of an automated red light enforcement system in place pursuant to Section 3116; or (3) Is otherwise illegible at a reasonable distance or obscured in any manner.”
According to Bolognese, the penalty for violating Section 1332 is $25 plus costs. However, the penalty for violating Section 1332 (b)(2) is $200 plus costs.
“Does PhotoBlocker spray work? Maybe,” said Bolognese. “Is it ille-gal? According to revised Section 1332 (b)(2) it is.”
And if the product does indeed work and our test was somehow flawed, at this point, it still might not be much use in this area.
That’s because according to Bolognese, the City of Philadelphia is the only municipality authorized to utilize an automated red light system in this area.
This information is contained in Section 2116 of the latest version of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, said Bolognese.
“The statute is very specific about where and how the system may be used,” he said. “The system administrator is the Philadelphia Parking Authority.”
But according to Scott, the red light system will be in our area soon.
The label on the can of spray touts its effectiveness, including quotes: “Surprisingly effective...,” Fox news states.
Another comes from NBC: “...proven to work...,” and yet another from The Washington Times states, “...the spray is not banned by any laws....”
What’s missing, however, is the rest of the quote from these sources; that is, the part that is before and after the ellipses.
According to PhotoBlocker’s Web site, the Denver Police Department and Fox news tested the product’s effectiveness.
But when contacted, the Denver Police Department didn’t have the reaction the product claimed they would.
“The Denver Police Department's participation in the testing of this product was minimal,” said Angela L. Garcia, administrative assistant to the deputy chief of police for operations at the Denver Police De-partment. “Fox News was allowed to drive past one of the Denver Po-lice Department's photo radar vans in a remote and controlled envi-ronment to test the validity of claims made by the manufacturers of several items. The Denver Police Department neither endorsed nor verified any of the findings made by the media. Therefore, we as a law enforcement entity, have no direct knowledge of the effectiveness of this particular product.”
In fact, whether this product actually works seems as enigmatic as the incomplete quotations on the product’s label.
Maybe the spray actually does work and maybe in some areas, it is legal to use the spray.
But even if it does work, at $29.99 (plus tax and shipping), is getting out of a few traffic tickets, or worse, breaking the law, worth it?
You decide.
I am the person who did the actual testing along with 2 coworkers that witnessed.
PhotoBlocker spray claims questioned
The product’s legality and its effectiveness in attempts to evade traffic light cameras and radar is examined locally.
There are products on the market these days that make a lot of prom-ises: knives that can cut through steel, pills that can eliminate cellulite, potions that can make a person look 20 years younger ... but do they work?
That was what the Reading Eagle Drive Time’s staff wanted to know about the product called PhotoBlocker, which claims to make license plates invisible to traffic light and toll booth cameras when sprayed onto a license plate.
So, we decided to test it to see if this was true.
Following the directions on the can, the license plate was cleaned and dried. Then, the product was sprayed as directed on the surface of the plate. After the spraying was completed and a “glossy coating was obtained” on the surface of the license plate, the plate was re-attached to the automobile. Then, a series of photographs were taken of the plate, with and without the flash.
When the photographs were observed, however, it appeared that the license plate number became more crystal clear than it had been be-fore the spray was applied.
This didn’t make any sense, seeing as the claim was the spray made license plates invisible to cameras. What should have resulted after spraying, according to www.photoblocker.com, was a glare over the en-tire plate, preventing the numbers from being legible.
We contacted the people at PhotoBlocker to find out where we had gone wrong.
Joe Scott, director of marketing for the company, explained the rea-son our test didn’t work had to do with our cameras and the conditions.
The cameras installed on traffic lights can’t adjust to the environ-ment, said Scott. In addition, our car wasn’t moving when the photo was taken. That may have an affect on the outcome, as well.
And Scott emphasized one point: it only takes one number to be blurred on the picture of the license plate in order for it to work.
So maybe Scott was right. Our photo may have come out crystal clear, but we didn’t exactly reenact the scenario to a tee.
But even if this stuff does work, is it legal?
The PhotoBlocker company says yes, but according Sgt. Nicholas Bo-lognese of the Cumru Township Police Department, an amendment to Section 1332 of the Pennsylvania vehicle code states otherwise.
“Obscuring a license plate has always been illegal,” said Bolognese.
According to Bolognese, Section 1332 in its previous version stated, in part, that “it is unlawful to display on any vehicle a registration plate which is so dirty as to prevent the reading of number or letters thereon at a reasonable distance or is otherwise illegible at a reasonable dis-tance or is obscured in any manner."
But to makes things even more clear, Bolognese said this statute was amended in 2004.
“I am not sure if it was in response to attempts to defeat the auto-mated red light system but the legislature chose to amend Section 1332 (b) this way: Obscuring plate. It is unlawful to display on any vehicle a registration plate which: (1) Is so dirty as to prevent the reading of the number or letters thereon at a reasonable distance; (2) Is obscured in any manner which inhibits the proper operation of an automated red light enforcement system in place pursuant to Section 3116; or (3) Is otherwise illegible at a reasonable distance or obscured in any manner.”
According to Bolognese, the penalty for violating Section 1332 is $25 plus costs. However, the penalty for violating Section 1332 (b)(2) is $200 plus costs.
“Does PhotoBlocker spray work? Maybe,” said Bolognese. “Is it ille-gal? According to revised Section 1332 (b)(2) it is.”
And if the product does indeed work and our test was somehow flawed, at this point, it still might not be much use in this area.
That’s because according to Bolognese, the City of Philadelphia is the only municipality authorized to utilize an automated red light system in this area.
This information is contained in Section 2116 of the latest version of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code, said Bolognese.
“The statute is very specific about where and how the system may be used,” he said. “The system administrator is the Philadelphia Parking Authority.”
But according to Scott, the red light system will be in our area soon.
The label on the can of spray touts its effectiveness, including quotes: “Surprisingly effective...,” Fox news states.
Another comes from NBC: “...proven to work...,” and yet another from The Washington Times states, “...the spray is not banned by any laws....”
What’s missing, however, is the rest of the quote from these sources; that is, the part that is before and after the ellipses.
According to PhotoBlocker’s Web site, the Denver Police Department and Fox news tested the product’s effectiveness.
But when contacted, the Denver Police Department didn’t have the reaction the product claimed they would.
“The Denver Police Department's participation in the testing of this product was minimal,” said Angela L. Garcia, administrative assistant to the deputy chief of police for operations at the Denver Police De-partment. “Fox News was allowed to drive past one of the Denver Po-lice Department's photo radar vans in a remote and controlled envi-ronment to test the validity of claims made by the manufacturers of several items. The Denver Police Department neither endorsed nor verified any of the findings made by the media. Therefore, we as a law enforcement entity, have no direct knowledge of the effectiveness of this particular product.”
In fact, whether this product actually works seems as enigmatic as the incomplete quotations on the product’s label.
Maybe the spray actually does work and maybe in some areas, it is legal to use the spray.
But even if it does work, at $29.99 (plus tax and shipping), is getting out of a few traffic tickets, or worse, breaking the law, worth it?
You decide.
Igovert500
11-29-2004, 02:20 PM
Jeff thanks for posting that...it is interesting to hear the different side of the story from an 'independent' source. I had only heard positive things.
lwpat
11-29-2004, 07:25 PM
Red Light Camera Tickets
Thanks for the post. I still don't really know if the photoblocker spray works or not. It seems that it is still a maybe.
Your last statement asks whether getting out of a ticket is worth it. Obviously you don't think so. You may change your mind when you read this article on red light camera tickets.
http://www.newsreview.com/issues/sacto/2004-11-25/cover.asp
I think the 29.95 may be a good investment if there is even the remotest chance that it does work.
Thanks for the post. I still don't really know if the photoblocker spray works or not. It seems that it is still a maybe.
Your last statement asks whether getting out of a ticket is worth it. Obviously you don't think so. You may change your mind when you read this article on red light camera tickets.
http://www.newsreview.com/issues/sacto/2004-11-25/cover.asp
I think the 29.95 may be a good investment if there is even the remotest chance that it does work.
bugmenot
01-01-2005, 11:13 PM
I got photoblocker from www.photoblockercanada.com.
and it works, I have a small fleet put the spray on did not tell ANY driver about it.
I went from 1-2 tickets a month to none. from anyone.
and it works, I have a small fleet put the spray on did not tell ANY driver about it.
I went from 1-2 tickets a month to none. from anyone.
RandomTask
01-11-2005, 10:32 AM
I bet you dupont satin black probably works better...
99onI95
01-11-2005, 07:23 PM
Just let me know when they make a spray that makes my entire car dissapear
alphalanos
01-11-2005, 07:26 PM
Just let me know when they make a spray that makes my entire car dissapear
HAAAHHAHAHA ...yeah last time i ran a red light i almost died so ....i was confused ...at least im the only one who got hurt
HAAAHHAHAHA ...yeah last time i ran a red light i almost died so ....i was confused ...at least im the only one who got hurt
Master Hiko
02-06-2005, 07:44 PM
why don't you just not run red lights? that you don't have to spend money on the spray and can stop putting people in danger
youre missing the point. hes not intentionally runnign a light but sometimes shit happens. some lights have ridiculously short yellow lights and you get caught just barely running the light. dont think of it as running a light, but more like "rolling a light" similar to a rolling stop. it is so fast and short that crossing traffic wouldnt have time to react. pay attention and stop bumping crap thats already covered.
youre missing the point. hes not intentionally runnign a light but sometimes shit happens. some lights have ridiculously short yellow lights and you get caught just barely running the light. dont think of it as running a light, but more like "rolling a light" similar to a rolling stop. it is so fast and short that crossing traffic wouldnt have time to react. pay attention and stop bumping crap thats already covered.
monkey123
04-04-2005, 06:00 PM
I bought some from the place in Canada since i was in Edmonton Alberta, www.photoblockercanada.com is located in Calgary, and they were really cool to deal with. I use it on my bike because i dont want some idoit in a car to rear end me, read this post form NY about Photoblocker and motorcycles. I can relate.
http://www.timesunion.com/aspstories/story.asp?storyID=345917
I don't need someone in a car to mess me up no one on 4 wheels pay any attention to us. the bottom of the atrical says the news crew testeddit in the plate and it worked too.
http://www.timesunion.com/aspstories/story.asp?storyID=345917
I don't need someone in a car to mess me up no one on 4 wheels pay any attention to us. the bottom of the atrical says the news crew testeddit in the plate and it worked too.
killacam
02-25-2006, 09:05 PM
heyy are green lights on ur licence plate illegal in florida?
killacam
02-25-2006, 09:10 PM
what are the laws on lights on ur licence plate. like i have green lights on my licence plate and i want 2 no if they are legal in florida.are they?
Igovert500
02-28-2006, 01:16 PM
A) this thread is 17 months old
B) it has nothing to do with green lights on your car
I don't know about Florida, but generally all aftermarket lights such as those are illegal to put on your car. The question is, will the local PD tolerate it. Generally they will pull you over for any color that is the same as a police, fire, or EMS light. Green maybe tolerated in your area, or it may not..but technically speaking...yes it is most likely illegal.
B) it has nothing to do with green lights on your car
I don't know about Florida, but generally all aftermarket lights such as those are illegal to put on your car. The question is, will the local PD tolerate it. Generally they will pull you over for any color that is the same as a police, fire, or EMS light. Green maybe tolerated in your area, or it may not..but technically speaking...yes it is most likely illegal.
copcarcrzy
02-28-2006, 02:27 PM
Just buy the spray and run a light.. when you get the ticket you will know it doesnt work :screwy:
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