what would you do??

lets play out a scenario

someone give you 6000 dollars and tells you to buy a car and upgrade it to the fastest you can make it. what would you buy and what would you do to it?

6 grand?

R32 GTS-T and not worry about modding it cuz I dont care.

Buy a cheap Honda CRX (probably 90'ish) drop in a B18C5 motor, trans, etc..Then add some performance parts to that, along with suspension, and a few little cosmetic things here and there. I think that would suffice enough with $6000. Who knows. That's just me. Late...

1g dsm, get one for maybe a k or 2 then mod the hell outta it.

i guess it all jsut depends on your taste in cars, i would probably go with a 93 f-body for 3k, then stroke it 1500, then get a used blower around 1500.

2nd Gen DSM

1987 Buick T-type. Same drivetrain as the GN... half the cost. 2-3k for that car then another 3k in mods... Id be close to hittin the 10 sec bench

i was thinking about that but i wasnt sure how much it cost to buy a t-type

72 VW bug, for 500. Then take 5500 and mod the hell out of it. 5k of that would go to a brand new turn key 3000 cc porche motor with turbo. That should push the bug pretty good. I should be around the 9 second or less mark in a 1/4 with that.

72 VW bug, for 500. Then take 5500 and mod the hell out of it. 5k of that would go to a brand new turn key 3000 cc porche motor with turbo. That should push the bug pretty good. I should be around the 9 second or less mark in a 1/4 with that.

need a tranny and slicks u went over

Talon Twin Turbo with a set of headers, 3" duals, cam & lifters, porting then pump up the turbo to 14psi and drag it
Talon=1500
Duals=300
Cam=150
porting=300
Blower=3000
Slicks=500
Total=5750

Talon Twin Turbo with a set of headers, 3" duals, cam & lifters, porting then pump up the turbo to 14psi and drag it
Talon=1500
Duals=300
Cam=150
porting=300
Blower=3000
Slicks=500
Total=5750

where does all that stuff get you in the talon the 13's lol

Easy, an Omni GLHS.

handgun from "big willy" on 4th street $250
Time at net cafe to find local ferrari dealer. $2
bus fare$ 4.50
Fake ID SSN etc $1000
Enzo free.
rest of money spend on gas and hookers.


this is way too damn vauge fastest how top speed 1/4 lap time 0-60? And there probbly 509857098576049876 threads on this already

handgun from "big willy" on 4th street $250
Time at net cafe to find local ferrari dealer. $2
bus fare$ 4.50
Fake ID SSN etc $1000
Enzo free.
rest of money spend on gas and hookers.




i can get you a fake id and ss card for 75 bucks

forgive me i'm not into that so i just made up the #s.

and you understand how freaking illegal that is?

BTW you didn't put up point of the post what you mean by "fastest"

I'd go with Andy's T-Type idea, well..because i want a turbo regal..

actually the ids are legal when u get them they put "this is not a government document on it" and then you take it off with nail polish but any way i only have one for buying beer not something criminal

Buy a cheap Honda CRX (probably 90'ish) drop in a B18C5 motor, trans, etc..Then add some performance parts to that, along with suspension, and a few little cosmetic things here and there. I think that would suffice enough with $6000. Who knows. That's just me. Late...

its funny you should say that coz a friend of mine has an older crx with.................yup a b18c5 in it and a few thousand in suspension mods. but, its been nothing but a headache for him ever since the engine conversion. So many things have had to be changed and modified, the worst being that he went through 4 axles before he got one that wouldn't snap with all the new power. Oh and it cost a hell of a lot more than $6000 in total.

this doesnt exactly comply seeing the car was so expensive but... there is a guy in aus, john munro, owns about 5 GTR's of different tune - one runs 9s.
anyway...
He bought a 1999 R34 GTR - so yeah the actual car was expensive but... it comes with 280hp (claimed) stock ok? he added a NISMO N1 exhaust, and an apex'i power FC... total cost including dyno time? $4,600 AUS = $3,000 US... so for $3000 in mods, he pulled a dyno proven 365rwhp, and dipped into the 11's!!!

cliff Notes:
-guy buys R34 GTR
-spends $3k on engine mods
-goes from ~300hp @ flywheel to 365hp @ wheels
-car can now run high 11's (stock = low 13s)

and thats just drag racing, beh, dont forget what awesome track machines these cars make...

CivRacer95 y would you get a Honda?? screw that lol im with cassiesman get a 1g GST or GSX or (2g GST or GSX if you can find one that cheap) and when you get more money mod the hell out of it! i HATE when people mod out civics! they are peices of sh*t! the motor is SO damn little GST or GSX would kill a Cive ANY day!

Glad you have an opinion about that. But for me, I like civics. I'm no pro when it comes to tuning up a car. I think they are great for beginners, me, simple, easy engine to figure out, and it helps anyone who want to know about engines learn. Plus, the aftermarket parts for them these days are by far cheaper than any. Also, they will last you forever. But like I said they are a great car to learn with and that's what I am doing. Learning, but everyone has their own opinion about cars. Just don't get carried away with your hatred for Civics. Honestly I couldn't car less about what you think of them. It's your opinion and I can respect that. Just don't take it to a personal level. K. Well, late...

i would get a 5.0 for 2 to 3 thousand hopefully 2 then buy forged rods and crank new heads and headers cam and used twin turbo setup and slicks for about 5 thousand.

that is a good point that they are easy and cheap to mod and i respect that you like them i just dont really because i see so many of them and so many people just putting euros, fart pipe and cold air intake and they think they got their selfs a machine and i hate those people sorry i wasnt directing that to you i was just saying most people i cant say any thing about you cause i dont know what all you have done to your car or n e thing. sorry man

accutly take that back
they got a stock 5.0 (internals) to run 10.91 or something close with a supercharger running 14lbs of boost. so i would get a 5.0 buy a supercharger, slicks, 3.73 gears and if any money left some suspension mods

'89 LX 5.0 - $3000
junkyard wheels and slicks - $500
GT40 Intake and heads - $900 used
Nitrous kit - $250 Used
Headers (used) w/ straight pipes - $350

whoops only spent $5000, guess I might spend some of the extra money and actually make the exhaust sound decent or get a K&N and some gauges. Then spend the rest on beer.

BlackEclipse97, it's alright, I don't mind. I know exactly how you feel. There are plenty of those typical ricers around my area. Yeah, a lot of civic drivers are thickheaded. But there are few out there that aren't. But I know where you are coming from. Don't worry, an apology isn't really necessary. I know how you feel. And for the rest of you, I know this sounds so "gushy." Just letting him know I don't mind. Late...

Well, since you didn't give a time frame... I'd take the 6k invest 5 of it, and then 20 years later I'd build my car with the 80 some grand I know have (current rate)


and that other grand i bought of gasoline put it in a tank and buried it. because that way i have fuel in 20 years and noone else does mwahhaha :P

1987 Buick T-type. Same drivetrain as the GN... half the cost. 2-3k for that car then another 3k in mods... Id be close to hittin the 10 sec bench

I 3rd this motion.

Well, since you didn't give a time frame... I'd take the 6k invest 5 of it, and then 20 years later I'd build my car with the 80 some grand I know have (current rate)


and that other grand i bought of gasoline put it in a tank and buried it. because that way i have fuel in 20 years and noone else does mwahhaha :P

But dont forget about inflation...

S10 body/frame = 500 bucks

388 stroker short block = 1600 (200 for the block, 200 for rods 300 for nitrous pistons, 150 for a great cam, 250 for forged crank, 500 for machine work and other engine accesories)

Excellent aluminum head/intake set = 1500

Rebuilt racing powerglide tranny = 500

Around a 300 shot of nitrous = 400 bucks

Suspension, slicks, beefed up rearend = 1000

500 extra bucks for oddball stuff

Easy 700-800 horsepower low 10/high 9 second combo

Rob

I would go with a 300zx turbo and mod it with the rest of the cash.

I like Rob's idea to

hey Polygon, you want my Omni? its not the shelby, but its only 30hp off

Nah, not right now anyhow.

Just bought the LeBaron as a project car not too long ago for $600. It isn't the fact that it isn't a GLHS because I can just drop a Turbo II in from a good donor car. Also, your GLH is considered a "Shelby."

blah blah blah blah blah....
-'87 RX-7 with a gagibillion miles on it: less than $500
-3rd generation 13B turbo II engine+tranny ~40k miles on it: $4000
-Custom Drive Shaft: $600 (estimate)
-2nd generation rebuilt differential: $700
-removal of A/C (for a small HP gain): Free
-Re Routing dual exaust with no cat out the sides with a cheap glass pack muffler: 100 if that.
-Manual Boost Controller: $40
-home made intake&filter: $50-60
-gutting the interior, drivers seat, guages, and shifter along iwth pedals is all you have: Free

Total: ~$6000 (a little less)


The early 2nd generation FC's already handle well and are very light. add 250+ WHP and it is very fast.

S10 body/frame = 500 bucks

388 stroker short block = 1600 (200 for the block, 200 for rods 300 for nitrous pistons, 150 for a great cam, 250 for forged crank, 500 for machine work and other engine accesories)

Excellent aluminum head/intake set = 1500

Rebuilt racing powerglide tranny = 500

Around a 300 shot of nitrous = 400 bucks

Suspension, slicks, beefed up rearend = 1000

500 extra bucks for oddball stuff

Easy 700-800 horsepower low 10/high 9 second combo

Rob

I'll second that.......sbc power

:lol: that s-10 is funny because unless you are getting a block that is worthless unless it needed $500 of machien work...its gonna cost you AT LEAST $800-1000...and its not likely it willl handle 800hp after you bore it and hone so far out to remove all of the piston scores and grinded in carbon.
also, a rebuilt powerglide that you payed 500 for isnt going ot handle your 800hp your engine isnt already handleing.
Are you speaking of a used nitros kit? i look through summit and jegs all the time dreaming and though i dont like nitros i still look at it...cheapest kits for thoes types of HP levels are in the 5's...at least. the ones in the 4's are like 100shot and dont require all too many fule delivery modifications.
suspension work. well im assumeing you want to change that old leafspring to a 4link...that along will cost 800-1000+...a good rear end able to handle your 800hp that your engine and tranny already arent handleing is well in to the 1000 range. then for a set of new rims and good slicks its well into the 500 range or more....
looks like you went over....oh well because even if you could do all that and make it be able to hanle the power; you say, maybe 750hp. your vehicle wighs say 4800lbs with pasenger and fule. about a 6.5 lb/hp. thats with nitros. lets say 450 w/o nitros...10.6 lb/hp. well my FD weighed 2700lbs before the engine swap. the newer 13B's weighed 100lbs less. then lets take 600lbs worth of un needed crap (ie interior). and lets say 2200lbs passenger and fule. stock the engine spins 255hp. adding boost untill the stock fule system cay supply any more is about 320 at the crank. so lets say 290 at the wheels. about 7.5 hp/lb...thats creeping up on your S-10 with nitros...i love power to weight ratios....

93 fbody with a stroker

:lol: that s-10 is funny because unless you are getting a block that is worthless unless it needed $500 of machien work...its gonna cost you AT LEAST $800-1000...and its not likely it willl handle 800hp after you bore it and hone so far out to remove all of the piston scores and grinded in carbon.
also, a rebuilt powerglide that you payed 500 for isnt going ot handle your 800hp your engine isnt already handleing.
Are you speaking of a used nitros kit? i look through summit and jegs all the time dreaming and though i dont like nitros i still look at it...cheapest kits for thoes types of HP levels are in the 5's...at least. the ones in the 4's are like 100shot and dont require all too many fule delivery modifications.
suspension work. well im assumeing you want to change that old leafspring to a 4link...that along will cost 800-1000+...a good rear end able to handle your 800hp that your engine and tranny already arent handleing is well in to the 1000 range. then for a set of new rims and good slicks its well into the 500 range or more....
looks like you went over....oh well because even if you could do all that and make it be able to hanle the power; you say, maybe 750hp. your vehicle wighs say 4800lbs with pasenger and fule. about a 6.5 lb/hp. thats with nitros. lets say 450 w/o nitros...10.6 lb/hp. well my FD weighed 2700lbs before the engine swap. the newer 13B's weighed 100lbs less. then lets take 600lbs worth of un needed crap (ie interior). and lets say 2200lbs passenger and fule. stock the engine spins 255hp. adding boost untill the stock fule system cay supply any more is about 320 at the crank. so lets say 290 at the wheels. about 7.5 hp/lb...thats creeping up on your S-10 with nitros...i love power to weight ratios....

4800 lbs??? a gutted s-10 will weigh around 3000 lbs....... i love power to weight ratios. Do some research before you try and bash on other peoples ideas.

i'd go with cassie's idea with the GSX....although there are several variables that go into this question....it should've been more specific

a gutted S-10 weighing 3000lbs with that hunk of engine sittig in the front, thats agood one...

yeah i'm serious....... my truck in the sig below only weighs 3600 lbs without me in it....

my uncles 2000 f-150 weighs 4000lbs

so how is an s-10 gonna weigh 4800lbs???

I'd probably go for a 1g Eclipse. That would probably run me some 1500-2000. Then upgrade turbo, strengthen internals make boost controller, some slicks and nitrous, and exhaust system. Spend the rest on race gas.