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skyler8675
10-26-2004, 03:57 PM
HI, i have just recived a 81 celica Gt, 4 cylender. I got it from my aunt and i started it and its pouring black smoke out the muffler. What can that be and what are some step i can take today to fix it. Im ready to wokr on it asap.
Also it boggs when ideling like its going to die and it did it once allready.

nialusa
10-26-2004, 04:07 PM
I think black smoke means one thing....burning Oil, I dont know that much about Celica`s, this is my first One, but I`m sure all cars are similar when it comes to things like that. Not too sure what it is (i`m sure someone more knowlegable than I will be able to tell you exactly what is wrong), sounds like either piston rings, head gasket or Valve seals to me.

skyler8675
10-26-2004, 04:11 PM
Well, i dont know CRAP about cars but im learning and if some one just told me what i needed to do to see what the problem was and then how to fix it i could do it.

nialusa
10-26-2004, 04:19 PM
Well good luck with it, I hope you get your problem sorted, sorry I couldnt offer more advice but I`d hate to tell you something wrong and get you working on the wrong thing. If you havnt already, get yourself a Haynes manual, a great help and a good book to start learning from.

91 Celica St
10-26-2004, 04:50 PM
yeah black smoke is bnot a good thing, could be various things like from a blaon head gasket to a blown motor....how long has it been scince the car ran before you got it? those 22re are poopy when it comes to being re started is it a 22re or 22r? (carburated or fuel injected)

skyler8675
10-27-2004, 03:08 PM
Well, first off it have been drove latly but my cusins husban fucked it up. Also its carbarator and its a 22R. if i could mabye get some step to emiminate what wronge with it that WOULD BE GREAT!

Dober89
10-27-2004, 07:44 PM
Its possible that the valve seals are gone and are allowed oil to leak into the cylinders. If those are gone you might as well just remove the head and change the head gasket also.

You can also do a compression check and try to locate which cylinder is causing the problem.

skyler8675
10-27-2004, 09:32 PM
ok guys, im really trying but like i said i dont know much about cars. I know what a head is and all that. But my knolege on engins is mostly about 5hp go cart engins and lilttle ones like that. I want to get my car running so if you can tell me exactly what you would do i will do it and hopefully i can get it running good. :) thanks for all yalls help!!!

skyler8675
10-27-2004, 09:37 PM
Hey if you want to e-mail me any thing, my e-mail is [email protected]

91 Celica St
10-28-2004, 11:27 AM
its his carberator...you need to re adjust your carberator to winter settings...$10 says ur secondarys are staying open too long

skyler8675
10-28-2004, 12:33 PM
yea, i called a repaire shop and i asked him how much a tune up would be and he asked whats it doing? i told him and he said it was the carb and it needed to be adjusted just like you said. He told me of a guy that will do it for 110$ i think. I would like to do it my self for the learning, satifaction, and ill have a extra 110$ in my pocket. COuld any one tell me how to go about this or give me a link to how to. :) THANKS

91 Celica St
10-28-2004, 01:32 PM
its really easy...just need to re adjust like 3 um skrews.... look on google cuz im not gunna type a long ass thing :0 i will if you dont find out by tmrw cz i gotta goto school

skyler8675
10-28-2004, 01:40 PM
ok sounds good. i talked to a guy and he said my carb is probly bad becouse it wont smoke if it just needed to be adjusted but im going to try to adjust it becouse i dont have the money to take it in right now anyways. Ill look but im not good at finding stuff so ill be here tommorw lol. But ill look. Have fun at school! :) lol

SigmaProjects
10-28-2004, 01:59 PM
I think black smoke means one thing....burning Oil.

I thought black smoke was a fuel related problem and bluish black smoke is an indicator of burning oil. So im with the person who said it's the carb.

91 Celica St
10-28-2004, 02:02 PM
black black is oil...gray balck is gas

skyler8675
10-28-2004, 02:04 PM
its more of a gray black i think. Im pretty sure its gas being burnt. but i dont know what to do.

SigmaProjects
10-28-2004, 04:24 PM
have you open the hood while it's ideled and play around with the throttle and see what happens?

skyler8675
10-29-2004, 06:09 AM
i have opened the hood when running but havent played with thortle. What would that have to do about burning to much gas and smoke? J/w but ill do it... Also whens its running and i have the hood opened, OMG the engine shakes so bad lol.

Well i just messed with the thortal a little and give it a little more gas make the bogging/shaking cut in about half and it dosent shake as bad, but is that bad to ideal it up? And how much is to much? I havent tuched anyhting yet becouse i dident know. But also it still is spiting out big puff's of black smoke :(

SigmaProjects
11-01-2004, 11:55 PM
you have an O2 sensor right? It should be on the exhuast manifold. Maybe there is something wrong with it? Does your check engine light come on?

skyler8675
11-03-2004, 04:52 PM
The engine lights not on.... im on a alt here, and dont know what to do. My dad said i could be a problem witht he cadilac convertor or something mabye. Should i take it in?

SigmaProjects
11-04-2004, 04:59 PM
i don't think a bad cat would make it bellow smoke, my cat went bad on my astro (for unatural reasons :smokin: ) but you could tell it was broken since there was a rattling sound comming from it. If you are worried about your cat you can always take it to a muffler place and have them bang on it and they'll tell you if it's good or not, weather or not to trust what they say is up to you. My place isn't bad i trust them for the most part.

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