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how much hp gain??


91maxbOi
10-25-2004, 09:48 PM
how much hp gain will i get if i take the ac/heater out of the car. I hear some people taking it out but i really dont know how much gain in hp they are gettin out of doing it.
thanx

RSX-S777
10-25-2004, 10:24 PM
Any gain will be nearly imperceptible. If your car is an all out race machine, I could see it being justifiable- but keep in mind you have to remove about 100 lbs to pick up approx. .1 sec. I think the RSX ac setup weighs around 15-20 lbs, but not 100% sure. Granted, it's a bit of a drain when it's running, but you'd be better off just leaving it off as opposed to pulling it out. In an American car like the Mustang, that thing is like 40 pounds plus, so it makes a little more sense to remove it....but still not really unless you are pretty hardcore.

SwiftAddictions
10-25-2004, 11:34 PM
the ac/heater does not take horses away untill it is turned on. While not active it is a free-spinning pulley. When turned on the clutch on the ac-unit locks and then takes the hp. Taking it off drops weight, as s777 said, but not a lot. This technique is used by weight reduction enthusiasts, but it is usually used in conjunction with the removal of various other things.

LiquidThinker
11-08-2004, 01:41 AM
Weight reduction is only half the gain lower friction is another benefit but it is still going to be very minimal.

crazy_canuck
11-09-2004, 09:59 PM
Where'd my post go?

And yeah, no point in doing this unless you've got a full our racer.

mmont0
11-19-2004, 10:21 PM
Any gain will be nearly imperceptible. If your car is an all out race machine, I could see it being justifiable- but keep in mind you have to remove about 100 lbs to pick up approx. .1 sec. I think the RSX ac setup weighs around 15-20 lbs, but not 100% sure. Granted, it's a bit of a drain when it's running, but you'd be better off just leaving it off as opposed to pulling it out. In an American car like the Mustang, that thing is like 40 pounds plus, so it makes a little more sense to remove it....but still not really unless you are pretty hardcore.
I don't know about that. On the RSX I haven't really noticed much difference between the A/C on and off, but on other cars I have noticed a BIG lag when the A/C is turned on. On the Neon I used to drive you would lag right after releasing the clutch and revving up in first. Right after clutch engagement it would jerk you forward and then hit a slow spot where the revving decreased and then kick back in. This lag wasn't there when the A/C was turned off and it seemed to last about 1/2 second or so. So I guess it just depends on the car.

sivic02
11-19-2004, 10:27 PM
lol my first car, or truck rather was a 94 dodge ram v6 longbed, that poor truck, after ragging it for a couple years i couldnt have the ac on if i was accelerating from a dead stop, i mean i could but it literally accelerated like i let off the brake and didnt hit the gas. Just thought yall might get a kick out of that.

PigPen5150
11-22-2004, 09:47 PM
The A/C system on the RSX kicks off under hard acceleration. That's probably why you're not feeling a major lag.

RSX-S777
11-23-2004, 08:35 PM
All I know is that I bog pretty damn hard below 2K with the SRI and the AC cranked in hot weather.

crazy_canuck
11-24-2004, 07:24 PM
That's cuz of the SRI :p

Or maybe all your Clay Gayken CD's are weighing the car down.

mmont0
11-24-2004, 09:37 PM
That's cuz of the SRI :p

Or maybe all your Clay Gayken CD's are weighing the car down.
Nah, he's probably got his changer full of Garth Brooks. :lol:

mason_RsX
11-24-2004, 11:05 PM
What are you talking about? Hes all about Liza Minelli

RSX-S777
11-26-2004, 01:24 PM
You're all wrong. Turns out it was the Complete Barry Manilow. Someone want to swap for the Neil Diamond set? I hear it's only 6 CD's to Barry's 8. Trying to reduce my weight so I can be faster at the track, you know?

Wait...I'm sorry. Did I say "faster"? What I meant to say was EXTREMELY MORE GAY. :evillol:

crazy_canuck
11-26-2004, 07:34 PM
bwahahaha

mason_RsX
11-27-2004, 01:23 PM
Yeah well I pulled the seatbelts out of my car! saved me a good 4lbs...plus all the pushups I've been doing...im gonna be running 10's in no time

crazy_canuck
11-27-2004, 04:23 PM
Yeah but I saw you at the 7-11 eating 5 taquitoes, 2 slurpees, a big grab of Doritos and some nachos and cheese. That's plus 16 lbs right there.

mason_RsX
11-29-2004, 09:53 AM
I fell off the wagon ok? ....and your one to talk about being caught red handed, I saw you going into S777's moms house again...you told me you werent seeing her anymore

SwiftAddictions
11-29-2004, 04:56 PM
maybe he keeps his eyes closed!

crazy_canuck
11-29-2004, 06:42 PM
I was at her house, but that was the rendezvous point for me and your mom :p


Mason - Did you hear, the Jays bought Skydome for 25M. Like what the hellll.........

RSX-S777
11-29-2004, 07:08 PM
Joke's on you...my mom is dead.

crazy_canuck
11-30-2004, 08:17 PM
Aight i'm gonna stay away from the necrophelia jokes here :D ......sorry to hear that, man :(

RSX-S777
11-30-2004, 08:44 PM
Thanks. She killed herself. Said she didn't want to live in a world of Satin Silver and Milano Red monstrosities.


Ah yes...nothing like the old "mom's dead" joke to shake things up... :evillol:

mason_RsX
12-01-2004, 12:00 AM
Yeah didnt wannt touch the dead mom thing...but for the record Crazy Canucks mom can be found on Jarvis St for about $20 a pop!

as for the skydome thing...it was made for 250M bought for 75 M and now for 25M....in a year well buy it for 30bucks and we can make a lil track and race

crazy_canuck
12-01-2004, 05:53 PM
Actually it cost 600Million:)

Annnnnnnnnnd your mom can be found on the 1999 on queen street and having you caused it:p. Figure that one out :p

RSX-S777
12-02-2004, 04:57 PM
I do have a MILF fetish...but I'll stay away from your mothers out of respect for the RSX Brotherhood. That and I've already had the Clap- won't make the same mistake twice...

mason_RsX
12-03-2004, 11:48 AM
just like the fonz! did you have herpes twice?

and to crazy canuck, Im in Halifax now, but im guessing thats a lunatic asylum, but it sure beats the borthels your mom works at (ok im now done with the mom jokes)

and who doesn't love a good milf?

crazy_canuck
12-03-2004, 04:00 PM
Haha yeah good guess :D

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