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Short Shifter Quality?


Marc-OS
02-20-2002, 12:41 AM
I was browsing around autodynamic, and I was looking under shortshifters, and I noticed that the price ranges were odd. You could get a short shifter that costs $100 or one that costs $40, and it was the same pricing for strut bars. My question is, is there a big difference between the $40 one and the $100 one?

iknowmuch
02-21-2002, 12:34 AM
to tell u the truth im not into getting cheap stuff for my car, but i looked around and read and figured why pay 100 when you can pay 40.
my $40 short shifter has been ABSOLUTELY FINE for months and counting.
dont waste ur money

super 96 accord
02-21-2002, 02:39 PM
I don't know how much mine was (girlfriends are great) but I have the DC sports one on my 96 Accord 5spd and it's a lot better than stock. I can't really compare it to any others because it's the only one I've ever had. You can really notice the diff though from 1-2 and 3-4.

mellowboy
02-21-2002, 03:12 PM
DO not go for them 40 dollar ones. They don't make them rite. If u gonna get it mind as well keep ur stock. Theres hardly any difference in those..TRUST ME! Get the dc sports, b&m and skunk 2's? Those three are really good. I got the dc sports for like 117 but i got ripped off. I know u can get them alot cheaper. Order from this guy...www.arloautoaccs.com He sells them for like 70-80 bucks i think?

jOYRiDe
02-21-2002, 09:58 PM
my bro's car has the C's short shift kit...made in japan :coolguy: if u find that brand, get it

kidrocket
02-21-2002, 10:49 PM
i love my skunk2. The linkage rubs on the exhaust, but i have the shortest throw possible

1993HondaCivic
02-22-2002, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by mellowboy
DO not go for them 40 dollar ones. They don't make them rite. If u gonna get it mind as well keep ur stock. Theres hardly any difference in those..TRUST ME!

ok this is completely wrong. how do you know there is hardly a difference? have u had actual experience with one on YOUR car? if not then dont say stuff like this
there IS a difference.

buh_buh
02-22-2002, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by 1993HondaCivic


ok this is completely wrong. how do you know there is hardly a difference? have u had actual experience with one on YOUR car? if not then dont say stuff like this
there IS a difference.
how can you say he's completely wrong when you have no proof? This is generally the rule of thumb when buying aftermarket parts for your car: You get what you pay for. If you get a $20 strut bar, you might get like a plastic strut bar compared to a $100 strut bar which is of high quality made by a reputable brand name. You could take the chance and get the $20 one, but if it doesn't work out (and most of the time it doesn't), you end up wasting the $20 and go out and buy the $100 after that.

1993HondaCivic
02-22-2002, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by buh_buh

how can you say he's completely wrong when you have no proof? This is generally the rule of thumb when buying aftermarket parts for your car: You get what you pay for.

but i DO have proof. i have one and feel the difference every single day

mellowboy
02-22-2002, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by 1993HondaCivic


but i DO have proof. i have one and feel the difference every single day

Well i did experianced actually. BOTH of my friends have the generic stuff..for there gsr and civic ex. BOTH of them complain sayin theres NO difference at all or HARDLY any difference. I've tried driving my friends car and i have to say they are rite. If you look...on the generic brand or whatever...if u compare to the stock..the ball is located at the same spot as the stock. NOW if u take dc sports or any other good brands and compare it to the stock ..the ball is lower. It doesn't really matter if the top part of the stick is shorter..it depends on where the ball is located. The lower the ball is the shorter the throw.

bbpro
03-03-2002, 08:02 AM
I have a Neuspeed that cost me a hundred, bushings and install included. No regrets. :D
I guess the thing with buying the branded and more expensive stuff is that you get some kind of assurance about the quality and construction, so you don't drive around wondering if today is the day the el cheapo rod you bought is gonna die on you. Just my opinion. :)

jOYRiDe
03-03-2002, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by mellowboy
It doesn't really matter if the top part of the stick is shorter..it depends on where the ball is located. The lower the ball is the shorter the throw.

true dat...the angle on the top half of the shifter helps aswell

kidrocket
03-03-2002, 11:57 AM
thats why i got the dual bend

jOYRiDe
03-03-2002, 12:31 PM
dual bend?? wtf? how does that go? :bloated:

Tominos
03-03-2002, 01:37 PM
i got an obx shifter for my civic ex and it shifts just as good as my friends dc sports shifter, all your paying for is the name. mine was like 60 bucks and my friends was 120.

buh_buh
03-03-2002, 05:56 PM
I think the difference might be because the more expensive ones are the actual short shifter, and the less expensive ones is just the short shift kit.

1993HondaCivic
03-03-2002, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by buh_buh
I think the difference might be because the more expensive ones are the actual short shifter, and the less expensive ones is just the short shift kit.
nooo

rockerdude
03-04-2002, 02:26 AM
yup, you get what you pay for. i bought a apc short shifter for $40. when i put it on, it didn't fit, the exhaust got in the way. it wasn't a perfect fit like its suppose to be. i plan on getting a B&M shifter.

buh_buh
03-04-2002, 03:02 AM
Originally posted by 1993HondaCivic

nooo
what do you mean nooo?
as im I'm wrong? or nooo as in you regret a decision you made?

mellowboy
03-04-2002, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by buh_buh

what do you mean nooo?
as im I'm wrong? or nooo as in you regret a decision you made?

.....ouch:D

mellowboy
03-04-2002, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by rockerdude
yup, you get what you pay for. i bought a apc short shifter for $40. when i put it on, it didn't fit, the exhaust got in the way. it wasn't a perfect fit like its suppose to be. i plan on getting a B&M shifter.

Its not about how it doesn't fit rite..its about how short the throw is. Buying those low name brands or no name is like buying stock shifter but in different color. I have my dc sports and it was hitting the exhaust. I think mostly all dc sports does that. So you have to re adjust the exhaust. B&M is a very good choice and its worth the money. Still look around for the cheapest prices though for b&m.

1993HondaCivic
03-04-2002, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by buh_buh

what do you mean nooo?
as im I'm wrong? or nooo as in you regret a decision you made?

no as in we are talking about short shifters, not short shift kits. there are expensive short shifters and there are cheap short shifters. the cheap ones are not a shift kit

cnycivic
03-04-2002, 10:20 PM
i have a apc short shifter ... (40$) my friend has a DC sports short shifter (100+$) no diff that i could feel .. his was a little smoother but no shorter and no faster shift ... and when i say its a little smoother its very little

mellowboy
03-05-2002, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by cnycivic
i have a apc short shifter ... (40$) my friend has a DC sports short shifter (100+$) no diff that i could feel .. his was a little smoother but no shorter and no faster shift ... and when i say its a little smoother its very little

Well wat kind of car does ur friend have? Cause i know theres so much difference in the dc sports then that lousy apc crap ur talking about . Theres no way u can't tell the difference? Especially apc ...the ball on it is located the same as the stock shifter and the dc sports ball is located lower than stock and apc. I compared it at pep boys.

1993HondaCivic
03-05-2002, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by mellowboy


Well wat kind of car does ur friend have? Cause i know theres so much difference in the dc sports then that lousy apc crap ur talking about . Theres no way u can't tell the difference? Especially apc ...the ball on it is located the same as the stock shifter and the dc sports ball is located lower than stock and apc. I compared it at pep boys.

i'm sorry but you must be blind!! the ball on apc is NOT same at stock! look at this picture and you tell me they're they same...
http://www.home.mpinet.net/t-hero/Shifter%20Photos!!/Step%204.jpg

kidrocket
03-05-2002, 06:36 PM
mellowboy you have it exactly backwards. If the ball was shorter than stock, you would have a longer throw. In order to get a shorter throw, you must INCREASE the distance between the pivotal point and the linkage, because that means the other side of the pivotal point has a shorter distance to go.

Lemme know if you need clarification i didnt explain that very well. maybe i can explain that better

evil_elmo
03-05-2002, 07:09 PM
i'm using a B&M and its great no problems, its worth the extra $$$

1993HondaCivic
03-05-2002, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by kidrocket
mellowboy you have it exactly backwards. If the ball was shorter than stock, you would have a longer throw. In order to get a shorter throw, you must INCREASE the distance between the pivotal point and the linkage, because that means the other side of the pivotal point has a shorter distance to go.

Lemme know if you need clarification i didnt explain that very well. maybe i can explain that better

well said

mellowboy
03-05-2002, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by kidrocket
mellowboy you have it exactly backwards. If the ball was shorter than stock, you would have a longer throw. In order to get a shorter throw, you must INCREASE the distance between the pivotal point and the linkage, because that means the other side of the pivotal point has a shorter distance to go.

Lemme know if you need clarification i didnt explain that very well. maybe i can explain that better

YES thank you! I did it get it backwards! Anyways..1993civic my point was that its not worth gettin those low name brands..i know theres no difference or hardly any difference. My friend had i think it was an aerospeed one for his gsr and he was complaining about it. HE said his stock shifter has a shorter throw. So then he ended up buyin a dc sports one. Another friend of mine has the apc and he said theres hardly any difference. I'm just tryin to make a point here man thats all?

1993HondaCivic
03-05-2002, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by mellowboy


YES thank you! I did it get it backwards! Anyways..1993civic my point was that its not worth gettin those low name brands..i know theres no difference or hardly any difference. My friend had i think it was an aerospeed one for his gsr and he was complaining about it. HE said his stock shifter has a shorter throw. So then he ended up buyin a dc sports one. Another friend of mine has the apc and he said theres hardly any difference. I'm just tryin to make a point here man thats all?

no hard feelings

kidrocket
03-05-2002, 09:01 PM
its all good here man

mellowboy
03-05-2002, 09:38 PM
Its all good!! Its not like i'm crying or pissed off or anything;)

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