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you could be sleeping in a Vortex


dirtydx
10-23-2004, 08:04 PM
Has anyone here heard about negative energey fields? They circle the earth, longitudinally and latitudinally, approximately every 15 feet there's a force line. They are called Hartman and Curry Nets. Where they cross its called a vortex, and this is where the energy is strong enough to hurt humans over time. Like if there's a vortex where you sleep, it can cause damage to wherever its centered on your body. Cancer, arthritis, schizofrenia, liver damage, whatever part of your body is in the vortex. All new to me! My parents hired a specialist to check our house out, it was really interesting. He went through our house with dowsing rods(witch stick) and checked for vortexs. These frequencies are apparently very strong, there's a crack through our basement floor which alligned perfectly with a force line. He said that some construction companies will check for these frequencies before building to avoid a cracked foundation. So it was scary to find out a vortex was centered on my bed :uhoh: .

So, how can it be fixed you ask? For $200(cdn) he will place calcite crystals at each corner of the house. This will divert these energy lines around the house, thus creating a safe living environment. Has anyone else heard of this? He told us in most parts of Europe it's mainstream, if you were buying a house its the first thing you'd do.

ec437
10-23-2004, 08:23 PM
LOL

:bs:

"its mainstream in most of europe!"

and I'm a rockstar in an obscure province of china. Give me money, bitch.

:p

dirtydx
10-23-2004, 08:43 PM
yeah that's what I thought too... how convenient a vortex is directly on my bed. but believe me, this guy has no shortage of customers. whether there is truth in it or not he's laughing all the way to the bank.


but it's the same kind of process as well drilling.. how the hell can they find underground water with a stick?

Neutrino
10-23-2004, 08:58 PM
but it's the same kind of process as well drilling.. how the hell can they find underground water with a stick?


they can't. All of the above its called a scam.

Oz
10-23-2004, 10:03 PM
:lol2:
There's one born every minute. The only vertex is in idiot's bank accounts after this clown has ripped them off.

Jas_M
10-24-2004, 01:48 AM
:loser:

dirtydx
10-24-2004, 10:28 AM
they can't. All of the above its called a scam.

They can't? Perhaps you have never seen the process of well drilling.


Albert Einstein, however, was convinced of the authenticity of dowsing. He said, "I know very well that many scientists consider dowsing as they do astrology, as a type of ancient superstition. According to my conviction this is, however, unjustified. The dowsing rod is a simple instrument which shows the reaction of the human nervous system to certain factors which are unknown to us at this time."

In Sri Lanka, where the geological conditions are said to be difficult, some 691 wells were drilled for, based on the advice of dowsers, with a 96% success rate. Geohydrologists given the same task took two months to evaluate a site where a dowser would compete his survey in minutes. The geohydrologists had a 21% success rate, as a result of which the German government has sponsored 100 dowers to work in the arid zones of Southern India to find drinkable water.

eversio11
10-24-2004, 12:02 PM
Calcite crystals to divert energy beams? :lol:

Neutrino
10-24-2004, 07:55 PM
They can't? Perhaps you have never seen the process of well drilling.


Albert Einstein, however, was convinced of the authenticity of dowsing. He said, "I know very well that many scientists consider dowsing as they do astrology, as a type of ancient superstition. According to my conviction this is, however, unjustified. The dowsing rod is a simple instrument which shows the reaction of the human nervous system to certain factors which are unknown to us at this time."

In Sri Lanka, where the geological conditions are said to be difficult, some 691 wells were drilled for, based on the advice of dowsers, with a 96% success rate. Geohydrologists given the same task took two months to evaluate a site where a dowser would compete his survey in minutes. The geohydrologists had a 21% success rate, as a result of which the German government has sponsored 100 dowers to work in the arid zones of Southern India to find drinkable water.


How about we see some actual scientific evidence to support your claims. And when i say that i mean from acredited scientific journals.

ec437
10-24-2004, 08:08 PM
How about we see some actual scientific evidence to support your claims. And when i say that i mean from acredited scientific journals.

seconded.

Gotti
10-24-2004, 10:23 PM
they can't. All of the above its called a scam.

lol you guys are stupid this is truth... this guy just made it sound stupid, i dont think they're called vortex's. But I've never talked about them in english, so i dont know. I think they're just magnetic fields or sumthing. Over really long periods of time they can cause higher rates of illnesses, they cause problems sleeping and they cause your immune system to be not as good.


If you dont believe this, do a test yourself to see where the lines are in your house... you dont need a specialist.

Just take 2 regular metal hangers from your closet, bend them so that they are L shapes, just enough of a handle for you to hold on to and about a foot or foot and a half long. Then loosely hold one in each of your hands about a foot apart, and walk around your house. When they start to go towards each other thats where one of the lines is, try it again and again, they'll always be in the same spots. I didnt believe it at first either till i tried it, but we didnt get no crystals or anything, we just did a homemade test and moved my bed out of the way of one. Immigrants dont fuk around with specialists and crystals lol

And i read a article in the paper about them too... a little while ago, they were doing research about it. Europeans are too smart... you guys are just catchin up now lol :lol:

Neutrino
10-24-2004, 10:35 PM
:lol2:
There's one born every minute. The only vertex is in idiot's bank accounts after this clown has ripped them off.


Gotti I'm not even bother to explain it to you. I belive OZ's post sais it all.

ec437
10-24-2004, 10:36 PM
I've tested my entire house with electromagnetic noise sensors and other equipment just to see if the stuff I built worked, and have no idea WTF you're talking about. I'd rather trust the results of my electronic equipment than that of your... coat... hangers...

If you don't know anything about radiation and/or electromagnetic fields please don't talk about them.

Toksin
10-24-2004, 11:00 PM
Pfft. Fuck calcite crystals. I got my protection right here yo.

http://tinypic.com/edj84

This thread has the baby black Martians up to their tentacles in LOL

Dustin_S
10-24-2004, 11:09 PM
magnetic fields are crazy things.

They killed my aunt....:(

Neutrino
10-24-2004, 11:10 PM
You kill me :rofl:

dirtydx
10-25-2004, 10:11 AM
finally some back up eh gotti.. dickhead

jon@af
10-25-2004, 10:22 AM
finally some back up eh gotti.. dickhead
Is name calling necessary?

Oz
10-25-2004, 07:37 PM
Australian Version: "A vortex ate my baby!"

dirtydx
10-25-2004, 08:05 PM
its called a vortex damnit!!!

HogieGT-R
10-25-2004, 10:02 PM
Pfft. Fuck calcite crystals. I got my protection right here yo.

http://tinypic.com/edj84

This thread has the baby black Martians up to their tentacles in LOL

Dave not only are you safe from electromagnetic waves, you're getting a nice perm! and possibly cooking popcorn.....:p

Gotti
10-26-2004, 12:39 AM
I've tested my entire house with electromagnetic noise sensors and other equipment just to see if the stuff I built worked, and have no idea WTF you're talking about. I'd rather trust the results of my electronic equipment than that of your... coat... hangers...


LOL stupid americano..... you dont need to buy something for it to work :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Try it and you'll see it works, its a rough way to find where those lines are.


I dont really give a fuck if you believe me... but try it for yourself and you'll see. I didnt believe it either till my dad showed me and i tried it myself

Neutrino
10-26-2004, 12:59 AM
LOL stupid americano..... you dont need to buy something for it to work :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Try it and you'll see it works, its a rough way to find where those lines are.


I dont really give a fuck if you believe me... but try it for yourself and you'll see. I didnt believe it either till my dad showed me and i tried it myself


First of all that is the second time you called someone stupid so consider this a warning.

Second he used proper scientific equipment to test EM fieds.

Third a magnetic field strong enough to move metal hangers from your hands will mess up all your electronics in the house. The least it would do is screw up the electron gun in your TV.

Fourth learn some basic physics before you go calling people stupid.

NeonAtron
10-26-2004, 09:25 AM
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Gotti
10-26-2004, 01:40 PM
First of all that is the second time you called someone stupid so consider this a warning.

Second he used proper scientific equipment to test EM fieds.

Third a magnetic field strong enough to move metal hangers from your hands will mess up all your electronics in the house. The least it would do is screw up the electron gun in your TV.

Fourth learn some basic physics before you go calling people stupid.

Listen... i said i dont know what they're called in english, i said (keyword) MAYBE they're magnetic fields or something. I have no idea.

I dont want to argue about this, its stupid. Try it for yourself then get back to me with the results and tell me what you think it is

and the guy insulted me cause i used coat hangers... sorry i'm not rich, you dont have to buy something for it to work :rolleyes: thats why i called him stupid

Insanity_97
10-26-2004, 02:35 PM
Pfft. Fuck calcite crystals. I got my protection right here yo.

http://tinypic.com/edj84

This thread has the baby black Martians up to their tentacles in LOL


ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:loser: :rofl:

Gotti
11-02-2004, 08:59 PM
Translated into english they're called "Water veins"

i urge anyone who doesnt believe it to try the coat hanger technique... and you'll atleast know there's something different in the places where the coat hangers move

try looking up water veins on yahoo... they do exist, but they're not vortexes :rolleyes: lol

Marc-OS
11-02-2004, 09:11 PM
My grandpa found his well using "witch sticks", it was way cool

Gotti
11-02-2004, 11:36 PM
My grandpa found his well using "witch sticks", it was way cool

yeah its the same type of shit

Fully_Sick
11-03-2004, 12:14 AM
Man what are you people on about, first feng shui now this

sounds like some villager myth, I maybe believe magnets mights have some healing powers, but to think that these waves are responsible for sickness like schizophrenia(which is herediary) is just too wacked out

p.s: people in europe do this? since when, never seen that shit,

dirtydx
11-03-2004, 05:24 PM
schizophrenia is heriditary??? damn even crazy ppl have girlfriends. :p



Gotti.

The specialist called the lines Curry and Heartmann nets, which is after the founders. A vortex is where the two intersect. I hope you can understand. :confused:

Dustin_S
11-03-2004, 09:15 PM
How come Jimi hendrix can't come back from the grave, but this thread can!?

Oh well, Toksin's stylish hate makes it all worth it.

Neutrino
11-03-2004, 09:31 PM
p.s: people in europe do this? since when, never seen that shit,


Trust me they don't, that is just a bs line to make it sound better.

Gotti
11-03-2004, 11:44 PM
Gotti.

The specialist called the lines Curry and Heartmann nets, which is after the founders. A vortex is where the two intersect. I hope you can understand. :confused:

yeah i understand... they're water veins, i guess where water runs it has some affect on you.

I dont think it causes all that shit like scitzofrenia(sp) but it might affect your health slightly over long periods of time. So might aswell not sleep where they are.

Mr.Corolla
11-12-2004, 05:13 PM
My grandpa found his well using "witch sticks", it was way cool
And what would u define as "witch sticks" being as water viens have nothing to do with Wicca. I practise wicca and i havn't come across anything about water viens in my studies. Or have u been watching too many movies?

dirtydx
11-13-2004, 06:20 PM
witch sticks is just a layman term... slang.... not a reference to wicca.

so u guys still wearing big pointy hats and riding broomsticks?








:lol2: jk

knorwj
11-13-2004, 07:12 PM
I dunno about all this stuff about affecting your health and stuff but divining rods as I know them do actually show roughly where there is underground water movement.

As Gotti said try making some with a pair a coat hangers then walk outside and I bet you wherever there is water underground (such as a well or septic tank) you will see the rods move together and then after you move away they will separate again. I dunno how it works but it does. somebody did tell me once that it has to do with magnetism and how when water is flowing the electrons create some kind of magnetic feild that is detectable by the metal rods held loosely in your hands. It is is quite easy to locate underground water pipe etc. using this method.

Neutrino
11-13-2004, 07:28 PM
I dunno about all this stuff about affecting your health and stuff but divining rods as I know them do actually show roughly where there is underground water movement.

As Gotti said try making some with a pair a coat hangers then walk outside and I bet you wherever there is water underground (such as a well or septic tank) you will see the rods move together and then after you move away they will separate again. I dunno how it works but it does. somebody did tell me once that it has to do with magnetism and how when water is flowing the electrons create some kind of magnetic feild that is detectable by the metal rods held loosely in your hands. It is is quite easy to locate underground water pipe etc. using this method.


Do you realise how much you are interfering with that experiment by holding the rods in your hand. Not to mention the fact that you have been told what to expect from the experiment.(why do you think farmaceutical companies use double blind tests).


Now lets see any of you bring actual proof from an acredited scientific journal.

Gotti
11-13-2004, 09:30 PM
Do you realise how much you are interfering with that experiment by holding the rods in your hand. Not to mention the fact that you have been told what to expect from the experiment.(why do you think farmaceutical companies use double blind tests).


Now lets see any of you bring actual proof from an acredited scientific journal.


why dont you try it yourself instead of critisizing... You cant affect the direction where the coat hangers go by holding them loosely, you can feel them move bythemselves

Neutrino
11-14-2004, 03:06 AM
why dont you try it yourself instead of critisizing... You cant affect the direction where the coat hangers go by holding them loosely, you can feel them move bythemselves


Scenario:I give one of my friends a sugar pill and tell him its the best strenght enhancer in the world. When he will reach the gym his performance will be significantly higher.

Does that mean the sugar pill enhanced his performance?

lazysmurff
11-14-2004, 03:08 AM
lets hear it for the placebo effect!!!!

hope i didnt give away your punchline...

knorwj
11-14-2004, 11:20 AM
Do you realise how much you are interfering with that experiment by holding the rods in your hand. Not to mention the fact that you have been told what to expect from the experiment.(why do you think farmaceutical companies use double blind tests).


Now lets see any of you bring actual proof from an acredited scientific journal.

well I use them as a tool for finding underground water... so yes I do know what to expect from using them, just as I know what to expect when I pick up any other tool such as a power drill or hand saw etc. Does this effect the outcome of using them? maybe. I need to know how to use them properly just as with the saw or drill in order to get the needed outcome.

Now seeing as I have been able to find many a septic tank/ underground spring etc. that I had no prior knowledge of their location using these rods, well I just don't see how I could affect the outcome, or make the outcome biased in anyway. If say I did know where something was and then "found" it with the rods I would completely agree with you.

As far as proof, i'm not really sure what kind of proof you are looking for? are you doubting the fact that they work? How they work? or are you still refering to the original "vortex gonna eat your baby" theory from the beginning... as far as that one... well i don't believe that one either. :eek7:

Gotti
11-14-2004, 04:01 PM
Scenario:I give one of my friends a sugar pill and tell him its the best strenght enhancer in the world. When he will reach the gym his performance will be significantly higher.

Does that mean the sugar pill enhanced his performance?


thats a COMPLETELY different thing... you cant compare a tool to medecine. Taking a sugar pill psychologically affects you and makes you think it will work, and your mind has a lot of power to change the outcome. Using the rods you'll feel them moving by themselves, you're not making them move and your minds not making them move.

.............................._________
the rod looks like this |.................(ignore the periods) now tell me, if you're holding the rods loosely in your fists, like you're holding a gun and keeping your hands still, how could you make them cross, start going towards each other? If you move your hands, they're just going to go closer or farther apart, but they're not going to rotate. If you tried hard to do it you could, but if you just hold them in your hands loosely and keep your hands still how could you influence the result?? You cant... so your arguement is pointless

I'm not going to say anymore about this... cause you'll never know unless you try it yourself

Neutrino
11-14-2004, 05:24 PM
Ok then perfect you guys can win a million dollars. - Not joking.

The success of dowsers doesn't surprise the people who know the most about finding underground water, hydrogeologists for the United States Geological Survey (USGS). They point out that the United States is so water-rich you can get wet drilling just about anywhere, if you drill deep enough. Far harsher criticism of dowsing and dowsers comes from outside the mainstream scientific community. Two organizations, the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP), http://www.csicop.org/si, and the James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF), http://www.randi.org, are actually working to discourage the practice, which they both dismiss as paranormal nonsense. To make their point that dowsing is a sham each has staged demonstrations in which dowsers were asked to find buried pipes. Dowsers did no better than the laws of chance predict. JREF is so confident of its position it promises to pay $1.1 million to anyone who can prove dowsing works.


You can can send me photos of your brand new Ferraris and I'll believe you. Mercedes Sl65 will work just as fine.



Here i'll even give you the contact information.

For more information on the James Randi Paranormal Challenge see www.randi.org, or send e-mail to [email protected] or regular mail to

JREF
201 S.E. 12th St (E. Davie Blvd)
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33316-1815
U.S.A.

Sweet you guys are going to be milionaires.

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