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D16 wrenchers, who are you?


piscorpio
02-19-2002, 05:30 PM
Sometimes it seems hard to find people willing to stick with their D16 engines (by choice), and squeeze some more impressive performance from them. So, what I want to do, is make a role call here of some of the fine citizens on af.com who actually have done just this. Now Im talking about people who have actually worked a little, you know, F/I, new pistons/rods, port polish, blah blah blah. In other words, someone well versed in the way of the D. Bolt ons are fine, but Im looking for something deeper than i/h/e here. What Im hoping is to get a nice reference list, a who's who. Just let people know what you did with your D16, power numbers, 1/4 mile times, etc. Even if you aren't exactly willing to help answer questions for D-dummies like me, at least give us a sample of your results. (something for inspiration :D )

Swonder67
02-19-2002, 05:34 PM
I got a D16, not really lookin into doin major engine mods though. I'm sure you could get pretty good times with one though, I just think it'd be better to have a DOHC. So I'm not touching the engine.

nemesls_2000
02-19-2002, 06:40 PM
D16 here.....not doing a swap!!
Hopefully, in the next couple of months, I'm going to be spending a grand building up my internals. I'll be getting a new cam, pulley kit, 4-1 header, and tuning my vafc. I'll let you know the dyno results too, b/c I'm going to do a baseline run in about a month before I get all this done and then another after to compare. Plans for the future include: new rods/pistons, port/polish, and fuel injectors.

CivicOwnage
02-19-2002, 08:17 PM
I have a d16y5 and sticking to it. Only time i have is 0-60 i got using gtech which was 8.6 seconds i think.

Mods i have done and things i have just sitting and havent put on.

AC Revolution Intake with Twisted Style Filter
5Zigen Muffer
2' Exhaust getting put on soon
Kamakaze Headers and High Flow Cat will be put on soon.

Ordering cam Gear and rebuilding my engine when i get my licence back :)

CivicOwnage
02-19-2002, 08:18 PM
oh yeah also switched my auto tranny to manual.

ric
02-19-2002, 08:45 PM
sorry im an h22 man my self but i am assisting a kid in building a d16z6 for 1bar daily driver in a crx so...

its a d16z6 with a greddy 15g kit, eagle rods, endyn pistons, b16 fuel pump, p28 ecu with a hondata 2b and custom pre obd to obd harness made by hasport. clutchmaster stage 3, balanced crank. bla bla bla im sick of typing

so im helping someone stay with a d series, do i count?

civicx_xracer
02-19-2002, 09:36 PM
Staight up D16Z6 here! No engine swap will be done. Mods (for now) include i/h/e adj. cam gear, plugs/wires, all pullies, and personal tuning of the engine. At this point I am already pulling gt's, 250-hp maxima's, si's :D etc...this coming weekend: fuel rail/regulator, new clutch. And within the next few weeks:mil the head, 5-angle valve grind. Not long after that:P&P By no means am I knocking any other engine but people don't give the D16Z6 a lot of credit. I am proof that you can get some real power out of a SOHC without spending thousands because I haven't spent more than maybe 800 at most for all the mods to my car. I will not be going f/i cuz I wnt to see just how much power I can get outta this thing. Sorry I have no #'s for you but I live in New Mexico and I'm not gonna pay $60 just to see how much hp I have (I could spend that on the engine) and the nearest 1/4 track is 3 hours away. Should be going to the track soon though.

ric
02-19-2002, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by civicx_xracer
Staight up D16Z6 here! No engine swap will be done. Mods (for now) include i/h/e adj. cam gear, plugs/wires, all pullies, and personal tuning of the engine. At this point I am already pulling gt's, 250-hp maxima's, si's :D etc...this coming weekend: fuel rail/regulator, new clutch. And within the next few weeks:mil the head, 5-angle valve grind. Not long after that:P&P By no means am I knocking any other engine but people don't give the D16Z6 a lot of credit. I am proof that you can get some real power out of a SOHC without spending thousands because I haven't spent more than maybe 800 at most for all the mods to my car. I will not be going f/i cuz I wnt to see just how much power I can get outta this thing. Sorry I have no #'s for you but I live in New Mexico and I'm not gonna pay $60 just to see how much hp I have (I could spend that on the engine) and the nearest 1/4 track is 3 hours away. Should be going to the track soon though.


so your running low 14's with bolt on's huh?
well your car looks ok from your avatar if that's really it but

running low 14's in a sohc with bolt ons gets...
http://www.automotiveforums.com/kris/kris/+junk/assclown.jpg

95hbMatt
02-19-2002, 10:13 PM
i'm even going further..hehe...
i'm building up my d15!!...my first step(which will be in a couple weeks) is slapping on a d16z6 head....the mini me swap! plus i'll be using the intake man, tb, distributor, ecu, and tranny off an ex.....the reason i'm keeping the d15 is because i'll get a better compression ratio compared to the stock ex/si block....then do a mild p/p....then i'm thinking of going with gude or crower cam/cam gear....then a 4-1 header(undecided on which one), and i'm probably gonna go with the skunk2 Invidia Rs*R exhaust......

RunninSOHC
02-19-2002, 11:29 PM
It's to prove a point. That a SOHC 1.6 L Exgine will run you or try to run with you. It will run you past the gas station while others reup on gas.
I chirped 2nd gear by the passenger window of a V8 firebird with a sick exaust. If anything that nigga got herbed out because he has a V8 even though I didn't win.

vtecntrldSI
02-20-2002, 12:39 AM
sup i got a d16z6 si hatch 92' runs godly to me ive done the basic mods. but with my Vtec its already good enough and i jsut use the bolt on s to give it more push. im plannin to put my t4 turbo in it soon, plus my new rods and pistons and take of. so basically im stickin with my engine and buildin it the odemeter reads barely 97,000 now but after 110,000-120,000 im swappin my hommies LS vtec chilen in his garage so thats my info. laterz

Killa_CRX
02-20-2002, 09:30 AM
I'm keeping my D16...
In a few months, I'm taking out a loan to have the internals built up and a turbo put on... after I start my new job as a Honda Sales Associate!:D

piscorpio
02-20-2002, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by i like naked girls
a d16z6 with a greddy 15g kit, eagle rods, endyn pistons, b16 fuel pump, p28 ecu with a hondata 2b and custom pre obd to obd harness made by hasport. clutchmaster stage 3, balanced crank. bla bla bla im sick of typing

so im helping someone stay with a d series, do i count?

Sounds like quiet a project, I guess you count. :D

I just wanted to find out who has experience with the engine and getting the most from it, its nice to see a decent turn out so far.

Nemesis2000 - I would definitely like to see the dynos, before and after. Nothing like good solid numbers, and I dyno chart is a nice reference to work with. (Better than, "I feel like its faster now, and I can almost beat my buddies Type R, blah blah")

CivicOwnage - You mentioned going auto to manual, did this give you any problems? How much did it end up costing you, if you dont mind saying? Im considering this myself, for the future.

Keep it coming guys, I need these kind of threads occasionally to keep me pumped up about working with my crappy little car! :silly2:

piscorpio
02-20-2002, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by civicx_xracer
Staight up D16Z6 here! No engine swap will be done. Mods (for now) include i/h/e adj. cam gear, plugs/wires, all pullies, and personal tuning of the engine. At this point I am already pulling gt's, 250-hp maxima's, si's :D etc...this coming weekend: fuel rail/regulator, new clutch. And within the next few weeks:mil the head, 5-angle valve grind. Not long after that:P&P By no means am I knocking any other engine but people don't give the D16Z6 a lot of credit. I am proof that you can get some real power out of a SOHC without spending thousands because I haven't spent more than maybe 800 at most for all the mods to my car. I will not be going f/i cuz I wnt to see just how much power I can get outta this thing. Sorry I have no #'s for you but I live in New Mexico and I'm not gonna pay $60 just to see how much hp I have (I could spend that on the engine) and the nearest 1/4 track is 3 hours away. Should be going to the track soon though.

How in the world did you get all that stuff with less than 800 dollars? If you are beating GT's and Maximas with those bolt ons alone, that is truly impressive. What i/h/e combo are you using?

Also, is that actually your car in the avatar? Im just wondering because I have the same pic from a website I found somewhere. (even had it as wallpaper for a minute)

CivicOwnage
02-20-2002, 05:42 PM
no problem except my shifter is hitting my exhaust now no biggy just wierd ass noice in the bigging, the car works good, just some stuff still need to be fixed, during the swap, because my car is an hx it has sencors up the ying yang, so i had check engine light up on me, so i need to get that fixed which is going to be done friday, it was no biggy just some hoes or something and my bearing are making somekinda noice but overall it was done great i love it. It cost me 1600 with parts and labor, they had everthing to do the swap. all parts had less then 50k on them. So just so you know if a shop tells you 4000+ flip them the bird :), cause they are trying to rip you and give you the dealer tranny deal, there refurbished 2k trannys which i dont see a point of when you can just find a 30k tranny or something and be just as good and a lot cheaper. Just find a shop that you can trust and do it when you get a chance.

CivicOwnage
02-20-2002, 05:46 PM
just checking something put my pic in the profile sorry :)

ric
02-20-2002, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by CivicOwnage
just checking something put my pic in the profile sorry :)

might wanna scale it down a bit, if you dont have the stuff to do it send it to me and i'll do it for you.

p.s. when testing sigs use the kia forum like the rest of us do!!!!

jaxle
02-20-2002, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by 95hbMatt
i'm even going further..hehe...
i'm building up my d15!!...my first step(which will be in a couple weeks) is slapping on a d16z6 head....the mini me swap! plus i'll be using the intake man, tb, distributor, ecu, and tranny off an ex.....the reason i'm keeping the d15 is because i'll get a better compression ratio compared to the stock ex/si block....then do a mild p/p....then i'm thinking of going with gude or crower cam/cam gear....then a 4-1 header(undecided on which one), and i'm probably gonna go with the skunk2 Invidia Rs*R exhaust......

what advantages would u get with a d16z6 head?

slowANDfurious
02-20-2002, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by i like naked girls


might wanna scale it down a bit, if you dont have the stuff to do it send it to me and i'll do it for you.

p.s. when testing sigs use the kia forum like the rest of us do!!!!

ya, AND get those black side bars painted or removed:bloated:

nemesls_2000
02-21-2002, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by piscorpio


I just wanted to find out who has experience with the engine and getting the most from it, its nice to see a decent turn out so far.

Nemesis2000 - I would definitely like to see the dynos, before and after. Nothing like good solid numbers, and I dyno chart is a nice reference to work with. (Better than, "I feel like its faster now, and I can almost beat my buddies Type R, blah blah")

Keep it coming guys, I need these kind of threads occasionally to keep me pumped up about working with my crappy little car! :silly2:

I'll be going to get my car dynoed somewhere in Atlanta on March 2nd for the baseline run. I'm going to order the Crower Stage 2 Street/Strip camshaft and get the spring and retainer for $600. I'll get it dynoed after that and let you know the difference. I know a guy who can put my cam in, but I don't know how much he's going to charge. He's installing my vafc this week for $70. Labor is a bitch! Keep the posts coming!!!

nemesls_2000
02-21-2002, 06:08 PM
I've been talked into saving my $ and getting an Integra GS-R engine. My other boy has an RX-7 twin turbo (T3) w/ some ridiculous crazy mods. He's been working on his car for 3yrs, I've ridden in it and this thing is FAAAASSSSSTTTTTT. He's also got two 100 shots of NOS. He said he's got the hook up and can get the GSR engine for $1800....these go for $3000!!!! He said he'll install it for $2000. I've got $1200 now, I'm gonna get a 2nd job, scrap and save and do an engine swap. I know he's serious b/c he also has another 92-95 civic w/ a GSR engine in it and I know he's not going to rip me off b/c his wife is my best friend. Sorry all you other D16s, this deal is too good to pass up! Anyone want to let me borrow some money??? I've turned to the dark side....Muuuuuuuaaaaaahhhhhhhahhh!!!

piscorpio
02-21-2002, 07:30 PM
What are you going to do with your old engine and tranny? Any chance you might "donate" it to me? :D

No, really, Im serious. Let it be known from this day forth, if you have an unwanted D16 that you would cast aside, I will take the little fella in. I am dead serious too.

hobbesboarder
02-21-2002, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by i like naked girls



so your running low 14's with bolt on's huh?
well your car looks ok from your avatar if that's really it but

running low 14's in a sohc with bolt ons gets...
http://www.automotiveforums.com/kris/kris/+junk/assclown.jpg

first of all thank u for bringing that pic out of retirement.
second i believe someone opened the floodgate and let all the ricers in because everytime i get on here i read something that makes me sick. third im d16 driver and proud of it id like to do some head work and FI but well see that is if i get the money. other wise i just I/H/E it is for me it sounds nice but it most likely runs 17's not 14's.

piscorpio
02-22-2002, 11:35 PM
Anyone running a turbocharged D16....or making any more than 150hp to the wheels?

xivera
02-23-2002, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by piscorpio
Anyone running a turbocharged D16....or making any more than 150hp to the wheels?
Why 150 hp in particular? :confused:

piscorpio
02-23-2002, 12:11 PM
GReddy turbo on d16y8 running 5.5 psi = usually around 150 hp.

Just a number, no real reason.

Spinalfury
04-02-2002, 02:01 PM
i wouldnt mind making 150 hp to the wheels hehe dam d15.

VTEC_boi
04-03-2002, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by hobbesboarder

i believe someone opened the floodgate and let all the ricers in because everytime i get on here i read something that makes me sick.

That happened when old school PH died my friend.

SilverY2KCivic
04-03-2002, 08:44 PM
D16Y7 in house ova here! :D I have a 2000 DX coupe, with that motor, no A/C in the car either. I plan on building it up and porting/polishing it and stuff, I'm just waiting for the warrenty to die off this coming December. My only real performance mod right now is intake, I'm planning to get an Apex-i WS exhaust for my car. With the lack of A/C, I have more room for an S/C or turbo. my goal is to hope that Vortec will come out with a nice S/C system that can up my power about as much as the kit for the Si does. I have an SCC article from last year that shows all you can do with the various Honda motors, and with the right parts, and opening the block to up it from the stock 1590cc, to around 1900cc, and new rods, pistons, and all that stuff, they are running a D16 motor that puts 215hp to the ground at the WHEELS! No F/I of any sort in the motor. The only thing I hear about our fine little engines, is that you have to be careful when boring out the cylinders, because the walls in the D16 are rather weak, and have to reinforced if making them bigger. My goal would be to at least up my power by 50hp to between 150 and 160hp at the crank, if not the wheels. I think that would put me at a nice medium, and in the high to mid 15 sec. bracket... And what will make my all motor D16 a gem, is I'm planning on KEEPING my auto tranny that's in my car. An auto, D16, no one would ever suspect, talk about a sleeper. ;)

94civic
04-04-2002, 12:14 AM
i got a turbocharger off of a 95 talon, isn't that the same one as the greddy kit and what else do i need to put this turbo on my d16z6. thanks.

xivera
04-04-2002, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by 94civic
i got a turbocharger off of a 95 talon, isn't that the same one as the greddy kit and what else do i need to put this turbo on my d16z6. thanks.
You might need to rebuild that turbo depending on its age/wear.

Noteable parts:
blowoff valve
custom piping
exhaust manifold (to accomodate that turbo)
basically all the parts of a turbo kit...

Drop in the forced induction board...

piscorpio
04-05-2002, 06:57 PM
I love resurrected threads, dont you?

Any new d16 heads since I started this?
Is Mista Bone lurking out there, Ive seen his name come up on other boards, he seems to know his stuff when it comes to the mighty D series (er, wait, was that an oxymoron?).

Quetzolcotl
04-14-2002, 12:41 AM
i gotta project d16z6 engine going. my old engine burnt up, no oil, so now its gonna get re-done by me and my bro. we're gonna put some zc pistons in it and what ever else will fit from an extra zc he has. we need a new crank and will micropolish it. put in a block guard and port and polish it ourselves, doesnt matter if we fuck it up but we'll just focus on rough edges and the exhaust ports. might get the cam reground too. i'd like to go n2o with it too.

nemesls_2000
04-14-2002, 12:05 PM
Don't forget about the oil!!!

onesojourner
04-14-2002, 02:15 PM
any body got a cam in there D

piscorpio
04-15-2002, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by onesojourner
any body got a cam in there D

Might want to check out ZEX cams? I dont really know much about it, but it comes up often on d16 boards. I also met a guy who was running a ZEX cam with turbo on a d16...

onesojourner
04-15-2002, 04:43 PM
ya ive heard that zex is good. ive heard of a few people with cams that are getting better fuel economy. someone said that with a cam cam gear i/e i should be in 99 si territory. that would be awesome maybe by the end of summer

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