How long till i should...
Mr.350Z
10-15-2004, 07:54 AM
Ive had my Z now for 5 months and i was wondering whens a good time to take her into the beauty shop, the paint is starting to take on some mysterious scratches and paint is starting to look strangly odd...it looks like my paint has water marks all over it but i always dry my car very well when i wash it and usually it works but just recenty this has started happening...so im wondering if its just the paint and that maybe she needs to goto the beauty shop (detailing ect.). well what do you guys think? (i have 2004 350z AT Touring)
Mr.350Z
10-15-2004, 09:06 PM
Can someone please help me out? if i have to ill repaint the whole damn thing.
Broke_as_****
10-16-2004, 12:51 AM
Use a good wax after every wash. A 2004 Z shouldn't need paint til atleast 2014.
k3smostwanted
10-16-2004, 03:52 AM
lol...definitely wax it or get it waxed. you can always take it to a detail shop to wax it or buff out minor scratches.
Mr.350Z
10-17-2004, 08:15 AM
ok thanks for the replies, ill get her waxed
Lovin' Life
10-17-2004, 05:48 PM
Hi Mr.350Z,
Thank you for your reply to my question. As of right now, I am asking the auto dealer that I bought my new Z from for a new car. I don't want a brand new car that is partially or totally repainted. I definatly have some paint issues that have come from the factory. I think the guy at the paint shop said it was called "Chemical Pop" or something to that effect. Apparently if everything isn't mixed right when it is applied, chemicals keep releasing from below the paint and/or clear coat layers. On some days I am even hard pressed to be able to point the immperfections out. But if you are in the right light, you can see hundereds of them all over the car.
So we'll see what will happen. I am hoping to hear from the manager of the service dept. next week some time with an answer or update as to what is happening with my claim.
You may want to have someone at a quality paint shop take a look at your car before you have it waxed. You may have something similar wrong with your car. They have special lights that they use so that they can see things.
Take Care,
Thank you for your reply to my question. As of right now, I am asking the auto dealer that I bought my new Z from for a new car. I don't want a brand new car that is partially or totally repainted. I definatly have some paint issues that have come from the factory. I think the guy at the paint shop said it was called "Chemical Pop" or something to that effect. Apparently if everything isn't mixed right when it is applied, chemicals keep releasing from below the paint and/or clear coat layers. On some days I am even hard pressed to be able to point the immperfections out. But if you are in the right light, you can see hundereds of them all over the car.
So we'll see what will happen. I am hoping to hear from the manager of the service dept. next week some time with an answer or update as to what is happening with my claim.
You may want to have someone at a quality paint shop take a look at your car before you have it waxed. You may have something similar wrong with your car. They have special lights that they use so that they can see things.
Take Care,
Mr.350Z
10-19-2004, 04:23 PM
Thanks for the info, im probally gonna just ask for a repaint from nissan, i have the same problem as you on most days i can point out the hundreds of spots...makes me want to cry...lol, anyways ill let ya know how it goes.
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P.S. (ive got neon and some other stuff installed into the car but if i didnt id definatly ask for a new car)
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P.S. (ive got neon and some other stuff installed into the car but if i didnt id definatly ask for a new car)
350G
10-21-2004, 12:51 AM
Ewww... that sucks. Sorry to hear that fellas. For people with minor imperfections, a good buff, then wax will give you that showroom shine. Most dealers don't do a "real" detail job when the car is delivered.
Zgringo
10-21-2004, 09:03 PM
I would take it to the best auto painter in town and ask him for his opinion and if he has some doubts let him do a small test in a area that don't show. If in his opinion the paint job is bad demand a new paint job, and you'll get a much better paint job than a factory job.
Ruff_life
10-22-2004, 01:06 PM
I believed that there is no aftermarket paint job is better than factory. The reasons for these are paint at the factory is bake on at a very high temperature which aftermaket paint could not have done. This is due to components on the car that cannot withstand high temerature. The film thickness is pretty well even through the whole car because they are painted by robots that are program to have the same distances everytime. The amount of fluid, atom air and fan air are all controlled by PLC which are the same on every car (same color car). Different color have different thickness and settings due to viscosity. MR350Z, if I remember it correctly your car is blue so your film thickness is about 1.2-1.4 mils of base and 1.5-1.8 mils of clear. If your base is greater than this number, you will have solvent popping. This is cause due to insufficient drying time before the clear is aplied. This is a factory defect, you can get the manufacture to pay for the repair.
Mr.350Z
10-22-2004, 09:28 PM
alright, ill let the dealership know. Thanks
Zgringo
10-24-2004, 02:32 PM
I believed that there is no aftermarket paint job is better than factory.
Not saying your wrong, but I've seen some REALLY nice paint jobs on some show cars. One of mine was stripped to metal primed then painted. 20 coats and rubbed twice, then 10 coats of clear pearl rubbed between every 2 coats. Looks pretty good. Maybe won't last as long as a factory job, but appearence wise looks better than factory.
Not saying your wrong, but I've seen some REALLY nice paint jobs on some show cars. One of mine was stripped to metal primed then painted. 20 coats and rubbed twice, then 10 coats of clear pearl rubbed between every 2 coats. Looks pretty good. Maybe won't last as long as a factory job, but appearence wise looks better than factory.
Ruff_life
10-24-2004, 09:12 PM
You are right, appearance does look better but you sacrifice duribility.
JCCR
11-03-2004, 06:59 PM
yeah do what ever it takes
Mr.350Z
12-14-2004, 07:38 PM
just to update you guys ive gotten my cara full wax and it looks alot better....but you can still kinda see them there...i waxed the car myself and i really waxed the areas that you could most see it in and its still not completly cleared up but it still looks alot better. dunno what else the prob could be. - Ryan
350G
12-14-2004, 10:15 PM
No paint job is better than factory . . . ha! I'm a paint sales rep and sure, your factory finish is accelerated in a "stove," but all that means is that its tougher for someone to match it. Painting is a chemical process and accelerated curing only equates to tougher touch ups . . .
If you actually spend a few bucks, buy the premium sh!t, and get a person who knows about the process rather than just a mere applicator, you will have a better than factory paint job. The only conditional factor in painting is the painter and his booth. Bottom Line: you get what you pay for (in most cases).
G
If you actually spend a few bucks, buy the premium sh!t, and get a person who knows about the process rather than just a mere applicator, you will have a better than factory paint job. The only conditional factor in painting is the painter and his booth. Bottom Line: you get what you pay for (in most cases).
G
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