integra vs celica

hey guys im new to the forums what do i need to do to my car to beat the crap out of celicas. are celicas faster than integras stock or can i already smoke them. and if they are faster what do i need to do to smoke them and how much money. thanks!

I`d post that question on the Integra Forum if I were you.

well i dont think you would need to do anything, celicas are driven by girls, and you shouldnt have any problem beating one.

haha what a bia....newya what kinda integra do you have...what year / vtec or no....if its a 90-93 then youll get beat....my st beats my friends gs integra .....there weak...if yuour gunan race a gt or gts then ull get smoked...if its a newer gts you wont even touch it

Burned an Integra R very badly today & an Audi TT in a 3 way battle, the Audi was very close (respect due) but the Integra was dust. I think the Audi may have got it had the run been a little more twisty. man those things go. I`ve gotta agree with 91celicaSt, if youve got an older Integra.....bye bye.

some audi TT's are 4wd, they'll slow down after. HEY NIALUSA which celica do you have?

One of these, In fact, that one, parked outside my mum and dads place.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/572000-572999/572923_111.jpg
This what Integras get to see...better get use to it.

that picture should be smaller. ie further away. if you get my meaning.

haha the only way itll ever touch a celica is ifs its pretty well modded (not just intake headers and exhaust) or if its atype R

All not some TT's are quattro. The one you beat was probably the 180hp version not the 225hp version. Good race though.

yea celicas are faf (fast as fuck). I plan on getting one and doin the same mods i have on my storm but i am kinda in debt i need to save a bit

All not some TT's are quattro. The one you beat was probably the 180hp version not the 225hp version. Good race though.
To be honest I dont know which version it was, How can you tell the difference?

TT's are heavy! so why would even the 180hp keep up. Could it be because celicas have a low top speed? so do the TT's. TT's have more Torque?

top speed didnt come into it as we never got anywhere near top speed, Celica`s are a little on the heavy side too. I am suprized to see the wieght of a TT, its alot for a small car (Audi TT 1520kg) (Celica GT4 1675kg)

I was reffering to the zzt celica. Yes the st205 is pretty heavy.

I was reffering to the zzt celica. Yes the st205 is pretty heavy.
Why were you refering to the zzt Celica? it had nothing to do with the "race" as there was just the audi tt, the Integra and me??????

but hey he had awd...an AWSOME stock turbo....to be honest it is one of the best, how many other stock turbos that you know of can hit 25 psi? and 260Hp and 255Tq to back him up :)

i dont think he knows you drive a st205, i think he thinks you drive zzt230 (7th gen celica)

I guess your right. maybe i should stop cutting out my sig cause that is usually a dead give away as to what I drive.

ouch... TTs weigh about as much as Vette

i`d rather have a Vette than a TT, I know very little about American cars (rented a Chrysler Sebring once, thats about as close s I got) but in the UK TT`s are considered hairdressers cars considering the other options that you can get here ie Porsches, mitsubishi`s, WRX Impreza`s. Supra`s, Focus RS`s, Cosworths, TVR`s, and now Holdens, the list goes on. for similar money you could get a RS4 Audi estate with 450+BHP as standard.

a shit i thought for a moment that you were driving the zzt not the st...try keeping the sig everywher that way i wont think its two defferent users. But if it is an st205 againts a TT, st205 all the way! even a zzt could take it.

sorry my bad. I just dont wanna piss people off with a pic of my car popping up every other post.

you tried making it smaller?

naw leave it the same size, so people can marvle at its glory :)

Maybe I`ll just get a new picture, but I`m waiting for a sunny day and its rained almost constantly for three weeks now. Crappy UK weather.

its rained almost constantly for three weeks now.
wow! three weeks, if it rained like that here in LA i woulnt been able to write this post.

I used to live in LA (N. Genesee Ave) it never rained once. But here its not heavy rain just pretty much constant, cant clean the car or anything.

that sucks, i love rain, fwd kicks ass, but i may be getting an mr2 soon :)

but i may be getting an mr2 soon :)
Why would you want to do that?

my frined came ofver with it running like crap, i looked it over and a vacum hose fell out, in rewerd i got to wast a bunch of his gas...those mother fuckers are fast, im gunna get an n/a version i think then when i have the money buy a tubro one.

i love the way they handle, they corer in all honestly better than a cleica , and i love gettn sideways and its real hard to do that withought the e brake in the cleica

I cant blame you, getting it sideways is much fun, cant really do it here though cause the roads are too busy and narrow.

but i may be getting an mr2 soon :)

Yeah baby :D if ur gonna sell ur celica then get an MR2. they are mental fun too drive.

sw20!!!!! hell yeah!!!

RWD/AWD are just more fun. Hell, my Astro is more fun then most FWD cars :evillol:

aww ur a discrase sigma :) hah you ever seen the sebsites of poeple with vans that run like 12 and 11's??? that shit is so awsome

aww ur a discrase sigma :)

Aww why am I a disgrace? I love my astro, best mini van on earth. especially if you drop it about an inch and stick a LS1 motor in it, god that thing has tq. BTW i used to drift my astro :icon16:

haha minis are sick to drive if you can drive them.... But try a ford xlt with a 4.0 drifiting, i had fun with that car :)

their is no honda stock out their that will beat a stock 2000 gts. i just raced a Type R stock for stock and i beat hime by half a car. and you would be surprised about that Audi. i had beaten one and one has beaten me. but top end the gts had more of and won't be able to keep up with it.

YAYY, ive heard a lot more than enough... Imma get a 00 gts. I used to have a 90 gt 5sfTe.
YEA BABY ther's a T in ther... it wasnt anything compared to a gts that i rode in!!
GO GTS!!!
by the way, i rode with my buddy from southeastcelicas and we dusted a chromed out 'stang GT!!!
Thers also a video that a gts beats a cobra!!
damnnn!

haha i watched 3 mustangs race once...cobra gt and regular...put it this way, cobra got 2nd... gt got last :)

205 GT4 is more like 1380kg, not the lightest but still not that heavy.

Dave
94 ST205
304bhp
Norwich UK

haha i watched 3 mustangs race once...cobra gt and regular...put it this way, cobra got 2nd... gt got last :)

a GTS beat a Cobra?

a GTS beat a Cobra?

As far as I'm aware of.. the only cobra that a gt-s can beat (stock for stock) is the 94-97 or so (the horizontal tail lights).

Are you sure it wasn't a crappy driver? Cuz I thought the newer Cobras could get really low 14's like flat 14 almost. Unless the GTS was modded, how could it beat the Cobra without the Cobra having a bad driver and the GTS having a fairly good driver?

Are you sure it wasn't a crappy driver? Cuz I thought the newer Cobras could get really low 14's like flat 14 almost. Unless the GTS was modded, how could it beat the Cobra without the Cobra having a bad driver and the GTS having a fairly good driver?

I think you're thinking about the newer Mustang GT's (260hp). The newer Cobra's are supercharged and putting out 390hp. If I recall correctly, the newer cobras are low 13's material.

[QUOTE=NA2000gts]their is no honda stock out their that will beat a stock 2000 gts.

Whoever was driving that Type-R didn't push hard enough. I believe a stock S2000 or '05 RSX-S can beat a 2000 GTS with similar drivers. When it comes to NA 4 bangers no one can compete with Honda and it's V-tec.

[QUOTE=NA2000gts]their is no honda stock out their that will beat a stock 2000 gts.

Whoever was driving that Type-R didn't push hard enough. I believe a stock S2000 or '05 RSX-S can beat a 2000 GTS with similar drivers. When it comes to NA 4 bangers no one can compete with Honda and it's V-tec.
Forget comparing the s2000 to a celica, completely different market, as for a type-r teg (RSX), in a straight line the Teg will beat the celica GTS no problems, with 40+BHP more or whatever it is its bound to win, but they handle like sh1t round the twisties, I`ve driven a couple and they are awfull to drive, I can beat them in my ten year old Celica no problem. As for saying noone can compete with Honda`s V-tec, the Toyota/Yamaha joint VVti system is pretty much the same just with more class, I`m not saying Honda`s system is bad cause its not, its a blindingly fast engine once it gets going, but never unnderestimate the underdog, Honda`s system has been around for around 20 years and its competitors have reached the same standard after only a few years of development. Honda`s engines may be good but thier cars handling sucks big time, pit a celica GTS against a teg or civic type-r on a circuit then give me the celica every time.

Here's a little comparison I found from Sport Compact Car magazine. The GT-S got 15.3@91mph. The guy must have been shifting at redline (7800rpms) instead of 8400rpms... this is crucial in order to land in lift on the 1-2 shift. I was able to get 14.7 @ 94.9mph in my stock GT-S.. the Type R was tested at 14.7 @ 95.2mph.

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=2304646

http://vipmetal.isurf.ca/slip1.jpg

what i hate about numbers is that it can handle the slalom but not the 200ft skidpad and it always seems like the 200ft skidpad is a waste unless you're just doing circle track. Like a viper has a better skid pad than an elise and the elise has better stats on the slalom then the viper, but the slalom is where it seems to count on real tracks (ie. not circle round abouts, no offence to NASCAR fans)

meh the new celicas are nice but to tell u tha truth id take a 5thgen with a 3sgte or a 4agze over em, not too much potentiality in the 1zzfe and 2zzge....theres is some nodoubt but have you haard of one with over 700Hp...neither have it

Thanks for the specs VIP09

I didn't know the Type-R and Prelude SH can produce .91G's and .90G's respectively on a 200ft skidpad. I used to think FF wouldn't even surpass .90G's period. I am also disappointed that the GT-S can only produce .84G's which is kinda of shameful for a Toyota sport compact coupe.

mailey becuase of the tourqe or lack there of, meh id stil take a 7th gen gts ofer an rsx-s

Thanks for the specs VIP09

I didn't know the Type-R and Prelude SH can produce .91G's and .90G's respectively on a 200ft skidpad. I used to think FF wouldn't even surpass .90G's period. I am also disappointed that the GT-S can only produce .84G's which is kinda of shameful for a Toyota sport compact coupe.

No prob..

Actually, there are a few people at newcelica.org that have gotten .88-.89g's on the skidpad stock. Road and Track actually tested it at .87g's

88-89G's sound more like for a the latest Celica. Sometimes it baffles me when 3 different magazines or testers have 3 different statistics especially when it's the 0-60 or the 1/4 mile times. The quicker times, higher G's or even braking distance always come from the better or more experienced drivers.

hate to break this to u guys, and neither am i here to start drama, but ur really understimating the integra type-r, even the prelude sh. seen some stock track timeslips for type-r's and they were in the really low 14's (depending on driver) a while back. as far as handling, the prelude was awarded the best handling vehicle under 30k.

oh no dont get me wrong all 3 are great vehicles, but thers no way a type r can get a beter time than an mr2 turbo (mid engine rwd at 200HP) a eclipse GSX and a 350Z...all 3 cars (celica rsx and teg) would be hittn high 14 low 15 stock... ive been to the tracks PLENTY of times and i have ever seen or heard of a celica, rsx, or any FWD car that were talkin about hit below a 15...sry thats not hapenein your looking at times of PRO drivers, guys that het those times because theyre paid to do it, they do that for a living, no way some 16 year old kid is gunna get a whole second faster at the track than a professional driver....granted they only get about 1/2 a day with each car, but there still PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS

and i dont hink any of you get teh fact that FLYWHEEL HP MEANS SHIT...look at the teg and the celicas Wheel Hp and wheel TQ, basically the same, and look at the weight, Close but the celica has about 100 less, now lok at one of the most important factors, where and WHEN its getting most of its power...oh wow look at that the celicas gettn all its power way before any other motor, roughly 1000 rpms before them, now dont those times look a little odd how 2 cars that have the same hp, almost the same weght and one is getting the same amount of power faster is loosing by .6 of a second?...fuck road test times and fuck what anyone else says, goto the track and se the real times getting put up and see who beats who

oh no dont get me wrong all 3 are great vehicles, but thers no way a type r can get a beter time than an mr2 turbo (mid engine rwd at 200HP) a eclipse GSX and a 350Z...all 3 cars (celica rsx and teg) would be hittn high 14 low 15 stock... ive been to the tracks PLENTY of times and i have ever seen or heard of a celica, rsx, or any FWD car that were talkin about hit below a 15...sry thats not hapenein your looking at times of PRO drivers, guys that het those times because theyre paid to do it, they do that for a living, no way some 16 year old kid is gunna get a whole second faster at the track than a professional driver....granted they only get about 1/2 a day with each car, but there still PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS


nope these aren't professionals, just race enthusiast like u and i. guess the guys where u live don't drive very well.

heres the timeslips:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura-Integra-Timeslip-196.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura-Integra-Timeslip-195.html

don't forget about gear ratios