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big bad mohawk guy
10-12-2004, 09:07 AM
i want a bike i am thinking of a GSXR-750 but i want speed whith great control. is it worth my 9 g's?

Tetsuo
10-12-2004, 02:36 PM
The GSX-R750 is the bike I currently lust for. I say go for it if you have the experience. I think the bike is a bargain compared to the what money can buy. I am in the market for one.

speediva
10-12-2004, 10:38 PM
If this is your first bike, read the stickies.

Otherwise, what are you looking for in terms of speed and control? Do you want straight line accelleration, or do you want something to rip through the twisties? A wheelie monster, or a nimble scoot?

Too New To Know
10-12-2004, 11:43 PM
what about all of the above? ;)

Z_Fanatic
10-13-2004, 12:52 AM
That would still probably be the Gixxer 750 and Blayne's Blade (wheelie whore). Although 750 would be better in the twisties.

aussieidiot
10-13-2004, 01:30 AM
i really rate the gixer. awesome track bike but slightly unpredictable on the road. ultimate all-round hooligan tool.

any one can ride my blade quick but it doesn't have the real control of the gixer.

Too New To Know
10-13-2004, 03:00 AM
what exactly is unpredictable about it?
i would have thought no bike was unpredictable, seeing as the rider is the one to control it..

now a horse... THATS unpredictable!

Z_Fanatic
10-13-2004, 07:16 PM
my guess is the power delivery of the gixxer is unpredictable. I think it sometimes suprises the rider by giving an extra boost/push when needed/not needed. not only it's light, but it feels light. with Hondas, they're heavy and they'll perform much as throttle input. my father used to ride the street bikes from Big Four, and surprisingly, his impressions of those bikes are more or less the same and translates over to the sportbikes as well. he loved suzukis.

aussieidiot
10-14-2004, 12:57 AM
by unpredictable i mean that (and i'm referring to my 96 750t) under similar situations different things may happen. eg every morning i'd leave for work and turn right out of my driveway. some mornings she'd spin up the rear for no apparent reason. same throttle same surface. carbies would have a bit to do with it. when i test rode other 600's at the time, they were easy to ride but had no personality. i liked the way the gixer kept me alert and it was fun to ride daily because it was unpredictable. it would also be fun to corner with and wrestle it around the track.

big bad mohawk guy
10-14-2004, 08:13 AM
i'm getting the 750 w/a turbo

Tetsuo
10-14-2004, 01:50 PM
The stickies above the topic listings are not enough for new riders. Wanted to make that clear. The posts are too broad and lack insightful information if you ask me.

As for your tires spinning up in the morning, I will assume that the tires haven't warmed up, which can be the reason why there might be an occasional lack of tire grip.

As for the GSX-R750 being unpredicatable. No one here has made a clear attempt of why the sport bike is qoute-unqoute unpredictable. Some say that the fuel-injection isn't well sorted, which creates a jerky feel from part and full throttle. I haven't experienced that on a demo-bike at my dealership. Then again I was given only a 15 minutes to sample the bike.

Too New To Know
10-15-2004, 12:20 AM
if it was same throttle and same surface, wouldnt his tires spin up all the time when leaving the driveway then??!!?! i dunno..

as for the posts, i think they continue to do a great job, they've changed alot of peoples minds INCLUDING my own! :D :D

Z_Fanatic
10-15-2004, 05:09 AM
I doubt Blayne's gixxer 750 was fuel injected back then. I thought it was 2001 when they received the FIs, I could be wrong however.

Pistolpete
10-15-2004, 05:27 AM
hehe yeh Lyndon i agree totally with u, bikes u can (ok you should) be able to control with practice, but a horse u just cant.

Horses are dangerous at both ends and uncomfortable in the middle. :)

aussieidiot
10-15-2004, 02:09 PM
The stickies above the topic listings are not enough for new riders. Wanted to make that clear. The posts are too broad and lack insightful information if you ask me.

As for your tires spinning up in the morning, I will assume that the tires haven't warmed up, which can be the reason why there might be an occasional lack of tire grip.

As for the GSX-R750 being unpredicatable. No one here has made a clear attempt of why the sport bike is qoute-unqoute unpredictable. Some say that the fuel-injection isn't well sorted, which creates a jerky feel from part and full throttle. I haven't experienced that on a demo-bike at my dealership. Then again I was given only a 15 minutes to sample the bike.


a couple of points
1st: the stickies will never be 100% correct for all newbies. i consider them to be information for all to think about and further research to their particular situation. they are sure to do more good than bad

2nd: how do you warm your tyre's if your leaving your house first thing in the morning other than waking the neighbours with a filthy big burn-out?

3rd:i stated i was referring to my old 96 model whuch was carbies not FI. i've not heard about suzuki's FI being grumpy down low, only the honda's have been bad enough for it to be a point of concern.

it is hard to pinpoint exactly why she was a grumpy bike. some days she'd be perfect. give some gas and she'd go exactly as required, yet others she'd either spin up or want to lift depending on seating position. she'd always require some forceful input when ridden hard on the street but when it was track day, it was a different story. easiest bike to ride on the track that i've ever had i go at. full throttle while still leaned over coming onto the straight and not a whimper. no spin, no lift, no worries.

Tetsuo
10-15-2004, 02:27 PM
I feel that some of the information is misleading since everything can be interpreted in different ways by different readers. I will keep it at that.

I just made a simple statement on why the bike might experience occasional wheel-slip.

To your last statement you just made, I was referring to the 2004 GSX-R750 and not to your 96. You never heard of Suzuki being a little rough down low? I thought Yamaha and Honda were the two manufacturers who had stronger understanding on programming the fuel injection systems. I recall Kawasaki and Suzuki having problems sorting out the FIs on the ZX-6R and GSX-R600. Whatever.

aussieidiot
10-15-2004, 03:10 PM
i'm trying to stay within context. i refered to my old bike as being unpredictable and posted with reference to that 1996 GSXR750t model. To stray away and use my info as a general statement about later FI models is misleading.

were the reports of the Suzuki and Yamaha FI cause for concern or just reporters looking for some fault, however minor, to have something to add to the cons list. reports of my 954's FI were a concern due to engine speed while cornering and the possibility of sudden input of fuel or loss of input while trying to maintain a steady throttle.
i prefer to know about the bike i'm riding than to have general knowledge over all types of bikes, and as i seen so many new bikes come and go it's very hard to know all about every bike.

i've always been a fan of the gixer 750 since owning one. their little idiosyncrasies are a trait you either love or hate.

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