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lude vs rsx s


LUDETECH
10-11-2004, 08:55 PM
I need some help i am looking into buying a new car ( i have been saving for like 3 years) cant decide on what though? I had my hopes set on a 01 lude sh but i hear once you turbo them they loose the ATTS anyways so then i was going to get a base model but i keep hearing that lude engine dont like mods. What i mean is that mods sign. shorten engine life. I also hear that it is hard to find mods that work well with each other (ie. cam gears, hondata, fuel pressure regulator). Should i get a 05 rsx type s instead. I like the rsx but i am not crazy over the styling and the biggest set back to an rsx is that they are all over the place. what should i do?

del
10-11-2004, 10:27 PM
you're going to get a heavily biased opinion in this forum. but, as much as i love the prelude and recommend it anyday and everyday, i would suggest the rsx-s.

you're right, preludes aren't as mod-friendly as other hondas. it can be downright a pain in the ass in fact.

here's my conclusion, if you plan on only minor modifications, you like a car that's more exclusive, get the prelude. but consider the bang for the buck factor here. the prelude loses in that respect.


seems like you're wanting to mod the car a bit. so i vote for the rsx-s

lude4henro
10-11-2004, 11:48 PM
i like the 05 rsx s styling and it has 10 more hp...i would sell my lude and get that but i already done so much to it

partyhardryan16
10-12-2004, 12:16 AM
your also talking about a big price difference, with a used lude si and a brand new rsx type s, ur talkin atleast $8 k difference in price... consider that too

rubix777
10-12-2004, 03:06 AM
if you're looking for a new fast car, the RSX-S is a nice one. Of course you can also get an SRT-4

lude4henro
10-12-2004, 10:45 AM
I don't like the SRT-4 and I don't think you should even consider getting it. A 2.4 engine turbo and can only get 230 out of it? What is that? And I don't like Neons. With a few mods on the type s, it can beat a SRT-4 anyday. The new type s gets 105 hp per liter, I think that is the best anyone has ever gotten out of a N/A engine. The i-vtec on it is real nice.

AcesHigh
10-12-2004, 11:25 AM
SRT-4 is the best bang for the buck car on the market right now. Seriously. It has more potential than even the current Mitsu EVO 8. Unlike the EVO's 4g63, the SRT-4's engine has not been maxed out on its potential. A simple and relatively inexpensive turbo upgrade would have it killing Corvettes and stomping on Vipers. Not to mention pretty spiffy handling for a FWD car, and four door accommodations for those who don't ride alone. It's practical, and fast. All this for 20 grand...

A Type S costs more than an SRT-4 and has less potential than an SRT-4. Come on.

SBallerk2
10-12-2004, 11:40 AM
hahaha...I know u ain't talking shit about the SRT-4's!! man those things R SUPER SWEET and Super FAST...my buddie just bought his about 5 months ago and I wouldn't mind having one my self...even if it's NEON...there pretty SWEET only down side on SRT4's is that there 5 Speeds and rev pretty quick around 5-6...still stock for stock an SRT4 would take down any RSX-S even the 05's!! by a good 1-3 car's...

SBallerk2
10-12-2004, 12:00 PM
anyways to ur question "LUDETECH" Lude vs RSX-S... for the money I would get a 5th Gen....Lude's R not much slower then RSX-S...at least stats prove that..

5th gen's 200HP 156 Torque 5 Sp..(ATTS only helps does not SLOW U DOWN test drive a BASE and SH..u'll C!!) I hate people who consider BASE better then a SH...GUYS this just in "IT"s NOT"..don't hate SH Lude's cause u didn't BUY ONE!! that's the simple FACT!! also lude's R suppose to weight a TONE right and I'm sure they do..but that h22 motor sure doesn't THINK SO ;) ....a 5th Gen will run u a lot cheaper then an RSX a good...

RSX-S..210HP 130 Torque 6sp..they must be quick,fast, etc. but cost a BUNCH...if u can afford it go for it...but remember it's still a Honda so ur stuck on 14 sec's....for 25 plus??? I think NOT!!

lude4henro
10-12-2004, 04:48 PM
hahaha...I know u ain't talking shit about the SRT-4's!! man those things R SUPER SWEET and Super FAST...my buddie just bought his about 5 months ago and I wouldn't mind having one my self...even if it's NEON...there pretty SWEET only down side on SRT4's is that there 5 Speeds and rev pretty quick around 5-6...still stock for stock an SRT4 would take down any RSX-S even the 05's!! by a good 1-3 car's...

Dodge claims 0-60 in 5.8. Car and Driver claims the 03 type s to be 0-60 in 6.1. I don't see a very big difference.

SBallerk2
10-13-2004, 12:40 AM
dude trust me a SRT4 would take a RSX-S any day...also a RSX-S does not do 6.1 sec 0-60 u got some wrong INFO...more like 6.5-6.7

crzyCollegeKid
10-13-2004, 10:42 AM
SRT-4s are now considered METOO cars. you go to any car hangout here in miami and the prevalent greeting is:

Person A - "What do you drive?"
Person B - "An SRT-4"
Person A - "Really?!?!?!? ME TOO!"

they're starting to become much more common than civics. i like ludes for relative exclusivity. i won't say those little neons aren't fast, they really are, but i don't like being like everyone else

AcesHigh
10-13-2004, 11:03 AM
I've driven the new SRT-4, in a course. For a four door sedan, it handles almost as well as my Prelude. It has a stock LSD, and while my cockpit is certainly nicer I can't deny that the SRT-4 has been well designed. This is no Camaro or Mustang, I think GM has finally gotten the right idea.

Granted, I don't want one, but I see it as a very good platform for those looking for quick and easy power. It's as common as a Civic because, well... it's as cheap as one.

lude4henro
10-13-2004, 12:29 PM
dude trust me a SRT4 would take a RSX-S any day...also a RSX-S does not do 6.1 sec 0-60 u got some wrong INFO...more like 6.5-6.7


My info is right...go to caranddriver.com and look it up yourself.

partyhardryan16
10-13-2004, 02:27 PM
I have a 97 lude with header exhaust intake ... i was on the thruway one night coming home from my gfs and a blue srt 4 pulled up next to me... so we started having some fun ... we started at like 80 and both downshifted , i kept close until we hit like 110, and after that he just kept gaining car lenghts... it is definitly faster than the prelude and the rsx , he hit atleast 140 like nothing

partyhardryan16
10-14-2004, 11:12 AM
i like my prelude more... got a great deal on it, better quality and realiability. My lude hits 100 pretty easily too, and thats all i need for now. Also, even though they are fast, Im not a fan of the neons, they still resemble the non SRT 4 models, and I dont like that very much. If I was going to spend 20k + i would probley go with a used honda s2000.

LUDETECH
10-15-2004, 08:39 PM
Thanks for the feedback. i posted the same question on honda- tech and got like 2 replys. I still dont know b/c everwhere i go i here how bad and hard it is to modify a lude. On the other hand so many people have rsx's which is my main dislke. I also dont completely like the sloping rear look of the rsx either.

lrb_2000
10-15-2004, 09:18 PM
Go with the lude... seriously...
They look a hell of a lot better... mods aren't THAT hard to find... and this is comming from a 3rd gen owner... SRT 4 is fast, but looks like shit... I had dodge, I hate neons...but anways... I would just go with the Prelude because it's nice, comfortable, fast, handles awesome.

94PreludeJDM
10-15-2004, 11:06 PM
Times are going to vary depending on what source you look at. And i'm going to re-state what most people are saying, the SRT-4 has a crap load of potential. I've seen them with a relatively small amount of mods ($3000 or so) and they're pushing 300whp, if not more. And they're light, so they're gonna be quick. Basically I agree with everyting AcesHigh said.

batmx3man
10-16-2004, 11:36 PM
One quick thing SRT-4's are gay its a neon no matter what you do to it which are made by Dodge not GM to the genius that screwed that up and 140 mph gee golly ive done that in a stock GT Probe not very impressive.

Integra745
10-17-2004, 09:58 PM
I've got a 97' Lude and i love it and of course am going to recommend it..... but i dont see why everyones saying that they are hard to mod or hard to find mods w/e True its not as easy to find parts as say a civic but by no means do i think its hard to find parts. Id say go with the lude :thumbsup:

AcesHigh
10-18-2004, 02:35 PM
One quick thing SRT-4's are gay its a neon no matter what you do to it which are made by Dodge not GM to the genius that screwed that up and 140 mph gee golly ive done that in a stock GT Probe not very impressive.

Hey, no offense man, but that's one of the worst reasons not to have a car. Ever.

I don't like Lancers (It's true... I think the styling is one of the worst things Mitsubishi has ever done. It looks like it was meant for a pimply faced high school kid who has no taste at all.), but I could get by the hideous hood scoops, Blitz-like body kit, and rear helicopter blade if it handles well and has a fair amount of room for me and my friends.

Yeah, it's a Neon, but its a Neon that will haul ass and will do it without leaving a hole in your wallet.

Preludes are difficult to modify *efficiently*, we'll say. Yes, you can port your head, change over to longer duration cams, change your I/H/E, buy a VAFC, get new rods, put in new pistons, get a bigger throttle body, upgrade your wires, put in bigger injectors, upgrade your ignition..... and look there, you just made 30 more horses. Weee.

They do handle like a dream being FWD and look cool though.

94PreludeJDM
10-18-2004, 02:50 PM
Haha, Aces owns.

94PreludeJDM
10-18-2004, 02:54 PM
Oh and basically this all comes down to what you really want. If you want nice styling and something that is kind of unique and you don't see too many of, get a prelude. If you want something fast, get the srt-4. Yeah it's a neon, and let people ride you for it...cuz they can continue to ride you for it while they look at your tail lights.

ttsupra15
10-19-2004, 01:57 PM
Get a 4th gen prelude with an h22. You can take an rsx-s with that easy. Also If you enough money to buy an rsx's who cares about t problems when modifying the lude. And i-vtec is nice but you can still when easliy with an h22.

SBallerk2
10-19-2004, 02:14 PM
guess I have nasty taste...cause I think the SRT-4 looks awsome specially in YELLOW!!

SBallerk2
10-19-2004, 02:16 PM
oh and if money wasn't an issue...I would probally go with a SRT-4...tho I love Lude's styling and would need to think about it very HARD cause ur not going to be racing 24/7...

batmx3man
10-19-2004, 10:51 PM
Im just wondering how Aces is so awesome for thinking that not liking the way a car looks sits the whole concept of as being a bad reason not to buy it??? The SRT-4 is fast to me thats the only plus its ugly the wheels arent wide enough for how tall they are its hideously designed sits to high off the ground and front wheel drive. All this my opinion not yours a car has to feel look drive right to me for me to like it. The neon is no where near this to me the prelude i thought was when i was buying it but now that ive had it for awhile i hate it more than ever before thats why im getting another MX-3 not the fastest thing in the world or maybe the best looking (btw those to titles go to british cars :D) but i love it thats why you should buy cars not cause oh hey i can beat this this and this guy if i get this car or hey it makes me look cooler. whatever do what yalls want and keep your heads in your asses.

AcesHigh
10-19-2004, 11:43 PM
Listen, I didn't mean to sound virulent about it or anything. My point was just that you should give any car a chance before you go about bashing it. It's not about how well the SRT-4 handles, or how fast it can go, it's about trying out the goddamn car before you make comments like "SRT-4's are gay its a neon no matter what you do to it which are made by Dodge not GM". You're talking about having my head in my ass while you are dismissing a car before having even driven it yet.

Since you like British cars (which happens to be my favorite, as well), I'll try to come up with this analogy for you. If someone said that "Lotus Elises are shit no matter how well they handle or how they can rape Vipers, its a Lotus and therefore SUCKS"... how would that ring with you. It's essentially what you said, you did not mention that you didn't like the styling, or how you didn't like the wheel width. Just that it sucks just because it's a Neon.

Just try to explain yourself a little better next time.

Master Hiko
10-31-2004, 03:06 AM
if money is not the issue then y get either? for 24k, u can get alot more car in a s2000, cobra, evo, and maybe a 350 just to name a few relatively new (1-3 years) cars and u still havent hit the 24k limit. as for the srt4 its a fast car slower than the evo/sti, but has room to stretch out its legs so it depends on what u plan on modifying. the evo is wirey and is running really high boost but the mitsu blocks can take it. the sti is more beefy so has a little more room for potential than the evo and srt4. the neon is a "bang for ur buck" kinda car and wasnt made to compete with the evo/sti. it was made for the preludes,itr,rsx-s,mazda pro, and what not. can it beat an evo with mods? yes, but so can a civic to a stang, and they arent newhere near being in the same class/purpose

honestly, u dont have to get a new car. just think about the money u can save on a used and much faster car. if u dont mind traveling or researching i can get u a 97-99 or so FC (stock) for that price (yes i live in the US) here in ca. 24k will get a beast of a car if u research good, a highly modified supra (prob the best), fd, 300z, sr20det swapped 240, blah blah blah.

but to bump ur post, its almost a drivers race with a lude and type s. if they cost the same and were the same age then yea get the rsx since essentially theres not much deviation performance wise, but since thats nowhere near the case id say 01'prelude because for the miniscule power difference between them, its not worth 10 grand.....hell its not worth 2 grand. take my advice and do what i specified in the earlier paragraph but if not, get the lude. theres nothing the rsx can do that a lude cant, let alone pay 10k to do it.

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