Cali Options...?

Since I live in SoCal, I wanted to know what options I have for my '95 240sx I just got from my cousin. With Cali's illogical laws :banghead: , I am not sure what I can do to my 240 without it being illegal (I'm not rich enough to afford having my car impounded after spending major $$$ improving it). I am rather open minded so keep the suggestions coming.

PS If you live in Cali please state it in your posts. :biggrin:

well lets see you can turbo ur car, but not yet, Greddy is trying to pass the turbo to be CARB legal, im waiting on that as well before i can get the greddy turbo for my car. You will get the carb stamp as well as the paper work for the kit when if you do get pulled over for it, so you wont get a ticket for it.

as far as other mods, you can do the LSD, port polish head, injectors, i would probably leave the ECU, and wouldnt change the cam because then you might have problems with smog, plus if you would get a turbo cams wont add much.

im still learning what i should or shouldnt do, but cars can be tunned to pass smog with 600hp its the visual that will be a pain, thats one of the reasons why ill paint my intercooler pipes satin black or something, then it wont stand out as much at the smog shop and if they still give me crap with my CARb sticker and all then ill go to a place where i know some peeps and they wont care.

Hmm, ok now my question is: is there anyway we can somehow change the law through a petition or something so that in the future people like us can do more stuff to our cars in California? Seriously, I can't think of one good reason why our retarded state won't allow things like engine swaps. As long as it can pass the smog check why would it matter what engine the car has? I seriously think politicians are getting a little out of hand with the laws. Isn't this country supposed to be a land of freedom? How can you call it freedom if you can't even drive and talk on your cell at the same time. Just because some people can't do it doesn't mean they have to pass a law to keep everyone from doing it. Damn those crappy drivers :loser: who mess it up for the rest of us!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Unfortunatly, if there was a way to change the laws with a petition, it would have already been done. There are mods out there that are legal. Most bolt ons are legal. Just look for the ones that say they are 50-state legal. You will still get crap from the cops though. They won't be able to take your car away, but they can give you an annoying little ticket that you will need to go out of your way to clear or fight. The best bet is to have a separate car for daily driving and using the other for modding and racing. It's really not that much more expensive minus the cost of the car. For me the cost of having one car insured is $180 a month and two is $220. I have 4 points on my record. If you tow the race car you don't even need insurance on it. It's just a smarter way of doing things especially since the cops are only going to start cracking down harder on the kids with modded cars. Parts can say they're legal, but to a cop, all mods are against the law. :mad:

Hmm, ok now my question is: is there anyway we can somehow change the law through a petition or something so that in the future people like us can do more stuff to our cars in California? Seriously, I can't think of one good reason why our retarded state won't allow things like engine swaps. As long as it can pass the smog check why would it matter what engine the car has? I seriously think politicians are getting a little out of hand with the laws. Isn't this country supposed to be a land of freedom? How can you call it freedom if you can't even drive and talk on your cell at the same time. Just because some people can't do it doesn't mean they have to pass a law to keep everyone from doing it. Damn those crappy drivers :loser: who mess it up for the rest of us!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Ford and general motors, as well as several other companys have payed out millions of dollars to lobbyists over the last several years, These companys benifit from the strict smog laws because most people will just go out and buy a new car when theirs fails smog.

The idea is, they sell the car, then try to make the car illegal so you have to go buy a new one. Car owners were delt a serious blow last year when the state changed the requirements for all cars (before 95 included) that they must pas the nox test, which the cars were never designed to pass in the first place. The only way to pass is to throw down for a newer model 7 metal catcon if you fail that one.

California smog laws are designed to pass the buck of pollution onto the consumer, and away from industry, which accounts for over 90% of the local pollution (less than 4% comming from passanger vehicles) Also note that collectively all of additional smog laws passed since 1995 have reduced the amount of total pollution by passanger vehicles by about 1% Weigh that against the millions of dollars every gas station had to spend on dynos for the ridiculous new laws. We don't go after industry to reduce pollution because if we do, they threaten to leave state.

Yes you can petition, you would likely not get very far however, even with hundreds of thousands of signatures, it won't mean much to lawmakers compaired to the pay offs motor companys make. In addition MOST people that drive cars get really annoyed by our loud obnoxious cars, good luck getting them to sign. =p

Gm and Ford aren't forcing people to buy new vehicles. My dad has a 1986 Toyota Corrolla that still passes with flying colors, and a 1991 Chevy Suburban with 282,000 miles on it that still passes. Everyone will pass smog if they take care of their vehicle. The only reason smog regulations are so strict in cali is because of the population. All states with a dense population, like cali, have strict smog regulations. One thing that has been causing cops to crack down on us is the bad publicity street racing gets. Every time someone engages in a stop light race and kills someone in the process, the press calls it street racing. I call that stop light racing, street racing is organized and streets are blocked off so innocent motorist can't get involved in an accident. It usually doesn't get dangerous until the cops come. I had been going to Ontario for about three years straight and only whittnessed two accidents. In both cases the people walked away fine. If you want to get specific, it's the press that gives us bad publicity, and the press is 99% liberal. Blame the Democrats.

Hmm, seems like what we need is someone with major connections. I wonder if we can find one with all these people in this forum. As of right now, I'm thinking of its a small world song and the 6 degrees of separation theory :rofl: . Also for the Nox test, in some other forum I was reading on I think someone managed to pass by throwing his sweater over the intake. I don't know how he did that since Cali uses the visual test as well. Maybe he was in another state. Also someone else mentioned that NOX is produced when the engine is burning lean, so another way to pass it is to flood the chamber, although that will cause your co2 emiisions to skyrocket. I guess its just a matter of a balancing act. Again, damn those greedy politicians who work for the money and not for the people!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Gm and Ford aren't forcing people to buy new vehicles. My dad has a 1986 Toyota Corrolla that still passes with flying colors, and a 1991 Chevy Suburban with 282,000 miles on it that still passes. Everyone will pass smog if they take care of their vehicle. The only reason smog regulations are so strict in cali is because of the population. All states with a dense population, like cali, have strict smog regulations. One thing that has been causing cops to crack down on us is the bad publicity street racing gets. Every time someone engages in a stop light race and kills someone in the process, the press calls it street racing. I call that stop light racing, street racing is organized and streets are blocked off so innocent motorist can't get involved in an accident. It usually doesn't get dangerous until the cops come. I had been going to Ontario for about three years straight and only whittnessed two accidents. In both cases the people walked away fine. If you want to get specific, it's the press that gives us bad publicity, and the press is 99% liberal. Blame the Democrats.

Cars before 95' can of course still pass, however many well kept cars fail soley because when they were manufactured they were not designed to reduce NOX, as such it is completely unfair to test for those on said cars. And most people with a 10-15 year old car would rather get some new metal under them, than fix up a car that failed smog.

My dad had to replace the Cat's on his 91 lude, and his 85 toyota pickup, only to pass the above test, which the cars probably couldn't pass 10-20 years ago when they rolled off of the factory line.

And there is talk about removing the rolling exemption for classic cars, if that happens he said he's moving out of state, his TA and alfa had to sit in the garage for years to finaly make that cut.