Overclocking Athlon
Gotti
10-07-2004, 05:31 PM
Has anybody here overclocked their Athlon computers? I was wondering how hard this is to do, cause i jus got Doom 3 an its runnin a little choppy in spots.
I got:
Athlon XP 2400+
512mb Ram
120gb hard drive
I got:
Athlon XP 2400+
512mb Ram
120gb hard drive
Suislide
10-07-2004, 05:36 PM
moved to the technical forum.
Neutrino
10-07-2004, 05:42 PM
Has anybody here overclocked their Athlon computers? I was wondering how hard this is to do, cause i jus got Doom 3 an its runnin a little choppy in spots.
I got:
Athlon XP 2400+
512mb Ram
120gb hard drive
the million dollar question is what videocard you have?
I got:
Athlon XP 2400+
512mb Ram
120gb hard drive
the million dollar question is what videocard you have?
Gotti
10-07-2004, 06:40 PM
the million dollar question is what videocard you have?
nVidia GeForce4 Ti 4200
nVidia GeForce4 Ti 4200
Neutrino
10-07-2004, 08:15 PM
nVidia GeForce4 Ti 4200
and there lies your problem. Overclocking your CPU will accomplish nothing since its the videocard that is the bottleneck. Get at least a radeon 9600xt or a 9800pro or if you can afford it get a radeon x800 or a geforce 6800.
and there lies your problem. Overclocking your CPU will accomplish nothing since its the videocard that is the bottleneck. Get at least a radeon 9600xt or a 9800pro or if you can afford it get a radeon x800 or a geforce 6800.
Gotti
10-07-2004, 08:32 PM
and there lies your problem. Overclocking your CPU will accomplish nothing since its the videocard that is the bottleneck. Get at least a radeon 9600xt or a 9800pro or if you can afford it get a radeon x800 or a geforce 6800.
Damn seriously? I didnt think my vid card was bad
and i just got the computer like half a year ago :mad:
:banghead:
fuck
Damn seriously? I didnt think my vid card was bad
and i just got the computer like half a year ago :mad:
:banghead:
fuck
Gotti
10-07-2004, 08:39 PM
It's a 128mb GeForce.... I didnt think it was that old already?!
I cant afford a new video card :(
I cant afford a new video card :(
Neutrino
10-07-2004, 09:03 PM
yeah its old its already two generations old unfortunatelly. And even among its peers it was only middle ground slower than a geforce 4600.
Sorry for the bad news. Look for a sale on radeon 9800 pro you should be able to get one around $150
Sorry for the bad news. Look for a sale on radeon 9800 pro you should be able to get one around $150
pre98zetec
10-07-2004, 09:09 PM
you can over clock nvidia cards, http://oc3dmark.octeams.com/tip02.html
Check that out.
I just overclocked my FX5200 256mb.
Check that out.
I just overclocked my FX5200 256mb.
Neutrino
10-07-2004, 09:12 PM
you can over clock nvidia cards, http://oc3dmark.octeams.com/tip02.html
Check that out.
I just overclocked my FX5200 256mb.
he might be a ble to get it up to the level of a 4600 which is still too low for doom3. Plus as a rule of thumb the few points you get from overclocking are generally not worth the potential instability or heat issues.
Check that out.
I just overclocked my FX5200 256mb.
he might be a ble to get it up to the level of a 4600 which is still too low for doom3. Plus as a rule of thumb the few points you get from overclocking are generally not worth the potential instability or heat issues.
pre98zetec
10-07-2004, 09:12 PM
and try this, I successfully ram doom 3 on my system last time, I just upgraded today.
I use to have 2200+ athlon (still have it)
352 ram
and a 64mb nVIDIA Geforce MX4000.
I could run consistent frame rate with all graphics options turned down and it ran fine and looked awesome.
But it was also overclocked to 200mhz over.
Try turning the graphics options down (and the advanced options too!) down and see how it works out. Overclocking is usually not the best awnser because if you overclock to much you have the risk of frying your card.
I now have :
Same processor
758mb ram
and a GeForce FX 5200 256mb, I can run full options and have consistent framerate with no slow downs or choppy ness
I use to have 2200+ athlon (still have it)
352 ram
and a 64mb nVIDIA Geforce MX4000.
I could run consistent frame rate with all graphics options turned down and it ran fine and looked awesome.
But it was also overclocked to 200mhz over.
Try turning the graphics options down (and the advanced options too!) down and see how it works out. Overclocking is usually not the best awnser because if you overclock to much you have the risk of frying your card.
I now have :
Same processor
758mb ram
and a GeForce FX 5200 256mb, I can run full options and have consistent framerate with no slow downs or choppy ness
Gotti
10-08-2004, 05:41 PM
and try this, I successfully ram doom 3 on my system last time, I just upgraded today.
I use to have 2200+ athlon (still have it)
352 ram
and a 64mb nVIDIA Geforce MX4000.
I could run consistent frame rate with all graphics options turned down and it ran fine and looked awesome.
But it was also overclocked to 200mhz over.
Try turning the graphics options down (and the advanced options too!) down and see how it works out. Overclocking is usually not the best awnser because if you overclock to much you have the risk of frying your card.
I now have :
Same processor
758mb ram
and a GeForce FX 5200 256mb, I can run full options and have consistent framerate with no slow downs or choppy ness
How'd u overclock your athlon? I wouldnt want to overclock it much, just like 200mhz. I heard Athlons are really good for overclocking, arent they?
Looks like i gotta get a new video card then :banghead:
I use to have 2200+ athlon (still have it)
352 ram
and a 64mb nVIDIA Geforce MX4000.
I could run consistent frame rate with all graphics options turned down and it ran fine and looked awesome.
But it was also overclocked to 200mhz over.
Try turning the graphics options down (and the advanced options too!) down and see how it works out. Overclocking is usually not the best awnser because if you overclock to much you have the risk of frying your card.
I now have :
Same processor
758mb ram
and a GeForce FX 5200 256mb, I can run full options and have consistent framerate with no slow downs or choppy ness
How'd u overclock your athlon? I wouldnt want to overclock it much, just like 200mhz. I heard Athlons are really good for overclocking, arent they?
Looks like i gotta get a new video card then :banghead:
Neutrino
10-08-2004, 05:59 PM
How'd u overclock your athlon? I wouldnt want to overclock it much, just like 200mhz. I heard Athlons are really good for overclocking, arent they?
Looks like i gotta get a new video card then :banghead:
I believe he was talking about OC his video cand not his CPU.
On the older palomino cores to unlock the clock you had to insulate the little power draw circuit that amd installed then get some conductive paste and connect the L1 bridge.
Then you go in the bios and change the settings, you also have to make sure there is adequate cooling.
You have a 2400+ so you have a trourougbred core but i think the trick to unlock it is the same as a palomino.
However don't do it, what you need is a new video card.
Looks like i gotta get a new video card then :banghead:
I believe he was talking about OC his video cand not his CPU.
On the older palomino cores to unlock the clock you had to insulate the little power draw circuit that amd installed then get some conductive paste and connect the L1 bridge.
Then you go in the bios and change the settings, you also have to make sure there is adequate cooling.
You have a 2400+ so you have a trourougbred core but i think the trick to unlock it is the same as a palomino.
However don't do it, what you need is a new video card.
pre98zetec
10-08-2004, 06:42 PM
yep Neutrino was right, I was talking about overclocking my video card.
If I were you, and had around 100 bucks to spend, Look into a GeForce FX5200 256 mb, same one I got. I went from around 14fps (old card) in D3 to over 50fps solid.
If I were you, and had around 100 bucks to spend, Look into a GeForce FX5200 256 mb, same one I got. I went from around 14fps (old card) in D3 to over 50fps solid.
Gotti
10-09-2004, 04:09 PM
are radeon video cards better than GeForce?
pre98zetec
10-09-2004, 05:34 PM
Depends, What model Radeon and what model GeForce are you looking at?
Gotti
10-10-2004, 05:30 PM
Depends, What model Radeon and what model GeForce are you looking at?
Of the new ones out right now, which ones do you think are better Radeon or Geforce cards?
Of the new ones out right now, which ones do you think are better Radeon or Geforce cards?
pre98zetec
10-10-2004, 05:43 PM
Like I said, it depends on what radeon card you want, or what geforce card you want. "one of the new ones" doesn't tell me alot, I need model numbers.
Gotti
10-10-2004, 08:43 PM
you cant just say what company generally makes better quality video cards? Like compare the best ones from both companies, which one would you rather have?
pre98zetec
10-10-2004, 08:53 PM
GeForce 6800GT is the best from GeForce..
Radeon 9800 pro (As far as I know is the best) from Radeon.
Personal preference on what you want to go with, I would go with the 6800GT if I had 450 bucks.
Radeon 9800 pro (As far as I know is the best) from Radeon.
Personal preference on what you want to go with, I would go with the 6800GT if I had 450 bucks.
Neutrino
10-10-2004, 09:01 PM
GeForce 6800GT is the best from GeForce..
Radeon 9800 pro (As far as I know is the best) from Radeon.
Personal preference on what you want to go with, I would go with the 6800GT if I had 450 bucks.
Just a small correction the 6800 Ultra is the best however the 6800GT is the best buy. Is cheaper by 100 than the ultra but with very close perfomance numbers. Not to mention that it doesn't take two slots or require as much ridiculous power as the ultra.
From ATI the best is the X800xt platinum edition as the 6800 ultra equivalent and the X800pro as the GT equivalent.
What I would take is a 6800 GT(this coming from me: a huge ATI fanboy)
The 9800pro is from the previous gen, however now it is seen as the best bargain card.
Radeon 9800 pro (As far as I know is the best) from Radeon.
Personal preference on what you want to go with, I would go with the 6800GT if I had 450 bucks.
Just a small correction the 6800 Ultra is the best however the 6800GT is the best buy. Is cheaper by 100 than the ultra but with very close perfomance numbers. Not to mention that it doesn't take two slots or require as much ridiculous power as the ultra.
From ATI the best is the X800xt platinum edition as the 6800 ultra equivalent and the X800pro as the GT equivalent.
What I would take is a 6800 GT(this coming from me: a huge ATI fanboy)
The 9800pro is from the previous gen, however now it is seen as the best bargain card.
Gotti
10-11-2004, 06:05 PM
ok... i'll be lookin for a good deal on GeForce cards then
Neutrino
10-11-2004, 06:26 PM
ok... i'll be lookin for a good deal on GeForce cards then
well if you go latest gen then yes the 6800 Gt is around $350- 400
but previous gen the Ati radeon 9800 pro is still the best bet at $150-200
si it depends how much money you want to spend
well if you go latest gen then yes the 6800 Gt is around $350- 400
but previous gen the Ati radeon 9800 pro is still the best bet at $150-200
si it depends how much money you want to spend
Gotti
10-12-2004, 06:11 PM
i'll just wait awhile till the prices go down.... hopefully something new is coming out
Neutrino
10-12-2004, 06:18 PM
i'll just wait awhile till the prices go down.... hopefully something new is coming out
not for a while, the X800s and 6800 are very recent and it will be another 6 months at least till we see a complete new gen
not for a while, the X800s and 6800 are very recent and it will be another 6 months at least till we see a complete new gen
PossibleSideEffect
10-13-2004, 10:31 AM
I got an Apollo 3D THRILL 315 Pro Deluxe 128MB for about $50 (US). I have had no problems at all with it, even with graphic-intensive games.
Gotti
10-13-2004, 03:25 PM
not for a while, the X800s and 6800 are very recent and it will be another 6 months at least till we see a complete new gen
i can wait that long for prices to go down... no problem
i can wait that long for prices to go down... no problem
Psman32@af
10-18-2004, 06:40 PM
do not "upgrade" to a 5200. you would lose performance over ur current gefore 4. the lowest card you should upgrade to should be a 5700 ultra or a 9600 pro. The 9600 pro would be a better buy than teh 5700 ultra. I would reccomend waiting for an agp version of the geforce 6600gt or go for a 6800 nu. The overall best buy however is the 6800gt. most performance for the buck and most of them OC to the same clocks as the ultra. If you want the best of the best, the x800xt pe is still on the top.
edit: on the note of overclocking, its not hard to do, there should be something in teh bios that says clock and voltage controls. You can adjust the freq of teh front side bus there. to overclock it, put that up in small incremints (no more than 5 mhz) then run a program call prime 95 for at least 12 hours. make sure the temperature doesnt exceed 60 C and that it completes without having any errors. if it does, then you have a succesful overclock. if not up the voltage a little (no more than 10% at a time) and repeat. i would not go above 1.8 v with that chip. but keep it under 60C, the lower the temp the better. most dont like to even exceed 50 C
there is rumor of a nvida fall refresh coming within 2 months and about 4 months for ati. both are rumored to include process shrinks. remember these are only rumors and not based on any real evidence, so dont get your hopes up.
edit: on the note of overclocking, its not hard to do, there should be something in teh bios that says clock and voltage controls. You can adjust the freq of teh front side bus there. to overclock it, put that up in small incremints (no more than 5 mhz) then run a program call prime 95 for at least 12 hours. make sure the temperature doesnt exceed 60 C and that it completes without having any errors. if it does, then you have a succesful overclock. if not up the voltage a little (no more than 10% at a time) and repeat. i would not go above 1.8 v with that chip. but keep it under 60C, the lower the temp the better. most dont like to even exceed 50 C
there is rumor of a nvida fall refresh coming within 2 months and about 4 months for ati. both are rumored to include process shrinks. remember these are only rumors and not based on any real evidence, so dont get your hopes up.
clawhammer
10-18-2004, 06:52 PM
I would personally wait for the 6600GT to come out, it's going to run around $200, it's going to be here in just about a month, and it will be the best card for the money.
Psman32@af
10-18-2004, 09:51 PM
Just for refrence, teh 6600 gt will perform around on par with the 9800 pro, but in most cases, it will perform better. It will be a while before its in agp form.
clawhammer
10-19-2004, 08:09 AM
No, word online is that it will be available for retail in agp by November. A couple of weeks ago at Best Buy they already had the PCI-Express.
Psman32@af
10-19-2004, 08:51 AM
ya cause teh pci-express was released first as pci-express cards arent always the easiest thing to come by. and ya, ill believe it when i see it based on teh availability of cards for this generation. We have yet to see x800xt pe's in any real numbers at one time, and up until recently, 6800 ultras were just as hard to come by if not harder.
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