recall

well i got a recall notice today for the tailgate,you know it's a little
scary,a new $30,000 truck with 800 mile less then a month old.
would'nt you think after 100 yrs they would know how to build a
vehical by now?

I agree with you 100%!!! I recently took my truck to the dealer for the same thing. They told me they can't help me because my truck doesn't show a recall on it. The tailgate straps were rusted 1 month after I bought it. I contacted GM as well and they are telling me I need to speak to the dealer because they do not show a recall on my VIN # as well. What's up with GM?? Probably should have bought a FORD!!!!

yes you should have, and so should i. my wife drives a 04 taurus now has 4100 mi on it and it hasn't seen the dealer since we dove it off the lot

I've actually had it in the shop for a few things so far... bodyside moldings bubbling, of course the tailgate straps that they say they can't help me with, and a vibration in the steering column. They had to replace the steering shaft - just a couple things to keep an eye on. Good luck! My next purchase may just be a FORD!!!

Mine too.Straps rusted through but dealer said "cant help you no recall for your year" Actually dealler wasnt much help on anyhting.After two pain stakeing years of fighting wiht the deallerhip on many diffrent problems with the vehicle I traded it in.Not my problem anymore but I will never buy another one..

You guys can't actually believe Ford's are trouble free? Every make has there own set of problems. Go over to the ford forum, It will not be empty, you will see alot of the same thing, just different types of problems. I don't have an anwser as to "what to buy". I was in the market for a new full size truck, I deceided on "none". I dont like anything available as far as 2005 trucks go.

As a longtime Ford Owner who now owns a new Chevy 1500, I can tell you I love the new Chevy. My ford vehicles (4 of them) did me well, but nothing is as smooth and quiet as my Silverado - I know because I test drove 5 F150s before buying the 1500. Hands down - both the wife and I noticed a huge difference.

I just bought a '01 Silverado, decided to trade in the '93 after putin 2k miles on it and I got the extended warranty and all, well it's a 4x4 and the first thing I'm thinkin is time to go play in the mud being my first 4x4 and all. Well not 10 mins. bein out there I'm gettin pulled out because my truck won't stay running cause it sucked up mud. Well come to find out the warranty won't even cover any of it and I'm out $400. I barely got into the mud, not even goin hardcore like my friends with their old trucks. Now I'm mad because the truck can't get a little dirty, I mean how far have we come????? Seems like they're goin backwards.

My truck is at the dealership right now. Its gettin all the recals done to it for the 2000's, something with the front break hose, some, bolt connecting the body, and the tailgate straps, and I thnk something else. Their even gonna give me a check for the strap I bought 6 months ago because they sold me the same "defective" strap.

Yes, the truck is now about 5 years old, and it is a little rediclious that these problems ate just getting fixed.... but they seem like they are treating me good. I bought my truck from an auction, and when I called when I got the letters, they even gave me a list of dealerships in my area, and even made the appointment for me! I thought they usually frown on people who dident buy their truck from their place of busnisse, but I guess their are still some good hearted people out their keeping chevy's name good.

I just bought a '01 Silverado, decided to trade in the '93 after putin 2k miles on it and I got the extended warranty and all, well it's a 4x4 and the first thing I'm thinkin is time to go play in the mud being my first 4x4 and all. Well not 10 mins. bein out there I'm gettin pulled out because my truck won't stay running cause it sucked up mud. Well come to find out the warranty won't even cover any of it and I'm out $400. I barely got into the mud, not even goin hardcore like my friends with their old trucks. Now I'm mad because the truck can't get a little dirty, I mean how far have we come????? Seems like they're goin backwards.


The basic facts are that FACTORY WARRANTY PAYS FOR MANUFACTORING DEFECTS...NOT CUSTOMER STUPIDITY

Hey guys I found this on the GM website. It says that GM is recalling certain 2000-2004 cables. Here's the link.

http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/safety/news_issues/releases/recall_120304.html

I had mine replaced a few weeks ago. The new cables they put onmy truck had a little sticker on them that said "Made in China".

I wonder if any of my Chevrolet Silverado is made in the US, or was it just assembled here? :disappoin

I just bought a '01 Silverado, decided to trade in the '93 after putin 2k miles on it and I got the extended warranty and all, well it's a 4x4 and the first thing I'm thinkin is time to go play in the mud being my first 4x4 and all. Well not 10 mins. bein out there I'm gettin pulled out because my truck won't stay running cause it sucked up mud. Well come to find out the warranty won't even cover any of it and I'm out $400. I barely got into the mud, not even goin hardcore like my friends with their old trucks. Now I'm mad because the truck can't get a little dirty, I mean how far have we come????? Seems like they're goin backwards.

It "sucked up mud"? like into the intake? Don't be driving through mud that's over the hood! :)

Just got my truck back from the dealership..... No more rattel from a complete stop....cant really tell what they did to the breaks..... and now I have some new straps, and a check for the one I replaced.

I had mine replaced a few weeks ago. The new cables they put onmy truck had a little sticker on them that said "Made in China".

I wonder if any of my Chevrolet Silverado is made in the US, or was it just assembled here? :disappoin


If you look closely you will find parts from all over the world on your truck.
They are assembled in the USA (some in Mexico)

GM isn't the only one with problems...

I just heard on CNN that Dodge is recalling over 600,000 durangos and rams for faulty balljoints.

every manufacturer is gonna have recalls or problems the odd time.

If you look closely you will find parts from all over the world on your truck.
They are assembled in the USA (some in Mexico)

Yeah, I know... It's a sad statement. :shakehead

GM isn't the only one with problems...

I just heard on CNN that Dodge is recalling over 600,000 durangos and rams for faulty balljoints.

Somehow, that doesn't make me feel any better about my Silverado's recalls.

Well on the older model dodge's the tranny always went out at like 100k, everyone I knew with a early 90 model dodge had tranny problems, it's definatly not just GM.

So what? Are you saying that because Dodges have trans problems, that it's alright for quality control at GM to go down?
Or is it the old misery enjoys company thing?

Either way, when I drop $30K plus for a pick up truck I should be able to expect it to free of defects? I don't care who built it.
When you buy a new truck, and you get recall after recall, no matter how minor, you should be upset enough to let the manufacturer know that you're not happy, and that if they expect to keep you as a customer, the need to do better.

Or, each time you get a recall, you can sit back and tell yourself that is okay, because Dodge is recalling trucks too. :rolleyes:

Sorry for brining it up

Just have to put my two cents worth in like everyone else seems to be. We live in a free country that gives us choices. Like what brand of car to buy. If you dont like one you can always go buy something else. i guarantee you youll have problems with one brand just like youll have problems with another. Yeah there are those vehicles that go their whole lifetime without a problem and those that dont make it off the lot without breaking down. Welcome to the world of manmade machines. sh@t happens and there nothing that all the quality control in the world can do about it. All i can say is GM and all the other manufactures do the best they can to take care of most problems. One thing i can say about FORD is how can you trust a company that builds a vehicle that rides to rough so they lower the tire pressure lower then what the tire manufacturer recommends to compensate for the hard ride. This in turn overheats the tire and causes them to blow out. In turn the car manufacturer blames the tire company for making faulty tires. That seems to me some pretty chicken sh@t way of doing business. So my opinion for what its worth is this. Buy who you want to buy from and deal with it because no matter which company you buy from someone is going to have a problem. Thats why we have choices.

Have a nice day

So dodge has trans problems, ford has suspension problems, and Gm their own problems, which include the notorious piston slap. I'm not sure how that makes everything okay(?).

You know that years of Research and development go into this vehicles and their componants long before the ever hit the streets. Do you really think that the trans problems that Chrysler is having, or the Piston Slap situation that GM experienced was a surprise to them? Of course it wasn't.
The knew when these vehicles were first brought to market that there were issues with them, but it's a "calculated risk". Between those vehicles that won't have a problem until the warranty runs out, those new owners who won't report a problem until it is too late, and those ownwers who can be BS'd by the dealers, each of these companies is betting on not having to repair a large portion of the defects that are known.
Further, those customers who do complain will often settle for a patch job in lieu of the needed repair or replacement, and some will even go to an independent shop and pay for the repair themselves. Very few of the true defects will ever be paid for or corrected by the manufacturer, and they know it. It's calculated into the base price of the vehicle, and into the projected sales figures.

GM, Ford, Chrysler, all of them have no loyalty to their customer. Their loyalty is soley to their investors and board menmbers, period.

AsFar as doing their best to turn out a good product, yes, I agree to a point. The GM Vortec engine was a know problem, and GM spent millions to correct the situation before the scheduled release date of the engines. But, at some point, the accountants put a stop to the research and development, and tell the engineers that they are going with what they have, and the calculations are made as to the amount of risk, and potentioal damages they will have to pay. Once that number is deemed acceptable, the calculated risk is realized, and the product, even a potentially defective one is released.

It's business, it has nothing to do with loyalties, or Chevrolet or anything like that. It's just business, and the bottom line is the ONLY thing that counts.

thats why i like these public forums. Everyone has a right to their opinion wether right or wrong. Just rember they are all opinions, not fact.

thats why i like these public forums. Everyone has a right to their opinion wether right or wrong. Just rember they are all opinions, not fact.

DO some research of your own, and then tell me if the "calculated risk scenario" doesn't take place.

Hold on dont go out buying a Ford. The tie rods are falling off them and they arn't recalling them at all even though there is a problem and they have updated parts.

its a fact of life...buy what u like the most, and do research first of all. it's just like voting, you gotta pick one that you THINK is gonna screw you the least.

I don't feel "as screwed " now. Last night I saw on the news that dodge dakota's and durango's have upper ball and control failure. When it fails it breaks off and the wheel folds in.

I don't feel "as screwed " now. Last night I saw on the news that dodge dakota's and durango's have upper ball and control failure. When it fails it breaks off and the wheel folds in.

A month ago I paid $8200.00 to replace an engine in my 2000 silverado, and the first replacement engine was defective right out of the crate!.
I think I'd rather deal with the suspension problem. :disappoin

I don't feel "as screwed " now. Last night I saw on the news that dodge dakota's and durango's have upper ball and control failure. When it fails it breaks off and the wheel folds in.

A month ago I paid $8200.00 to replace an engine in my 2000 silverado, and it took two tries to get the engine replaced. The first replacement engine was defective right out of the crate!.
I think I'd rather deal with the suspension problem. :disappoin

A month ago I paid $8200.00 to replace an engine in my 2000 silverado, and it took two tries to get the engine replaced. The first replacement engine was defective right out of the crate!.
I think I'd rather deal with the suspension problem. :disappoin

Really? You rather be on a freeway juction doing a hard left bank turn and have your front wheel fold in and go horizonal? Instead of your motor quitting? Everyone's got there opion, I would have to go with the engine failure, although that wouldn't be pleasant either.

Really? You rather be on a freeway juction doing a hard left bank turn and have your front wheel fold in and go horizonal?

To be honest, I've already been there. I had an 81 Olds Omega, 2.8LV6, and while going through the curve on an exit ramp, my left front wheel literaly folded under the car, and the half shaft did a pretty good job on the rest of the left front fender.

I bought this car new, and at the time of the part failure, the car had 24,000 miles on it (still under warranty) , and it cost me a bundle to repair, because GM said it was accidental damage. Nearly 2 years later, GM recalled the "X" bodies due to a malfunction in the Rack and Pinion that could cause the left front wheel to become doslodged while in a RH turn. Imagine that!

It took another 2 years of arguing with GM to get my money back. I even got the dealer to write a letter explaining that the repairs were due to the defect in the rack and pinion unit, and GM still argued the refund for two years.

At least DC is recalling the Durangos for a repair. GM is still denying that piston slap ever existed.

A little less than 2 months ago, I spent $8200.00 replacing an engine in my 2000 Silverado. The GM rep and I are still "discussing" it.

Yeah, I've had both experiences, and both were with GM products. I say we need to clean our own back yard before we start point at others.

My opinions are based on MY experiences, not something I heard. Yeah, I still be GM products, but I'm no where near as loyal as I could be, because GM is no longer as good as they could be.

My opinions are based on MY experiences, not something I heard. Yeah, I still be GM products, but I'm no where near as loyal as I could be, because GM is no longer as good as they could be.

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You got a good point, I don't know why I am still loyal to GM. They certainly do not make it easy to get repairs on known problems.I had a recal leter sent to me reguarding the clogged fuel inj. poppets, extending warranty to 200,000 miles or 10 years.I took it in because I had the exact symtoms described in letter. Three trips to chevy dealers (3 different dealerships) and not one put the blame on faulty fuel inj. So I took to an independant mechanic, he old me #5 inj. (he diagnosed in 1/2 hour) was clogged and he replaced in 1.4 hours. chey charged me $300+ each visit and never found problem.But I complained to GM corp. and they reimbursed me, they said they have no power to disipline individual dealership for bad service but will be happy to file a report # and pay me back.

I've actually had it in the shop for a few things so far... bodyside moldings bubbling, of course the tailgate straps that they say they can't help me with, and a vibration in the steering column. They had to replace the steering shaft - just a couple things to keep an eye on. Good luck! My next purchase may just be a FORD!!!

Hey...ya gotta do what ya gotta do... but you may want to change your handle on the way over. I've had my Superado three years now. The tailgate cables were replaced a few months back via recall...better they catch it and fix it before something bad happens.. like shall we say.. the tires blowing out and rolling the vehicle ...oops... that was Ford...sorry!!!. Outside of a couple of stereo issues (not a big deal) my truck rocks!!! Like others said, go spend a few days o the Ford forum and see what you get. The couple of times I checked in, it seemed it likey all desperately need some cheese to go with their whine!!!!
As for quality control...short of testing every part to every truck, not hapening. First the task would be monumental not to mention the costs!!! I stand by my Chevy!!! (this is where we start hearing "God Bless America" in the background...music up... lights fade!!
:wave:

I just bought a '01 Silverado, decided to trade in the '93 after putin 2k miles on it and I got the <a style='text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 3px double;' href="http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=24&k=extended%20warranty"; onmouseover="window.status='extended warranty'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">extended warranty</a> and all, well it's a 4x4 and the first thing I'm thinkin is time to go play in the mud being my first 4x4 and all. Well not 10 mins. bein out there I'm gettin pulled out because my truck won't stay running cause it sucked up mud. Well come to find out the warranty won't even cover any of it and I'm out $400. I barely got into the mud, not even goin hardcore like my friends with their old trucks. Now I'm mad because the truck can't get a little dirty, I mean how far have we come????? Seems like they're goin backwards.

I agree you must have been doing something stupid to get mud in your intake. You can check out some of my pics when i took my stock Z-71 out, My truck was the only one that didnt stall that day, i was out with a lifted dakota with a 5.9 and a lifted jeep Rubicon, the dakota got stuck and died and the rubicon died and shattered its rearend gears. My stock Chevy performed beautiful "Like A Rock". check out the pics of my truck and then expain how you got mud in the intake.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2094079

And the Big 3 are wondering why they are losing market share to Toyota and Nissan. Apparently last years Toyota Tundra had the highest crash survivability rating of any truck made. Ford and Dodge were "poor," GM was "marginal"

I just bought a '01 Silverado, decided to trade in the '93 after putin 2k miles on it and I got the extended warranty and all, well it's a 4x4 and the first thing I'm thinkin is time to go play in the mud being my first 4x4 and all. Well not 10 mins. bein out there I'm gettin pulled out because my truck won't stay running cause it sucked up mud. Well come to find out the warranty won't even cover any of it and I'm out $400. I barely got into the mud, not even goin hardcore like my friends with their old trucks. Now I'm mad because the truck can't get a little dirty, I mean how far have we come????? Seems like they're goin backwards.

Yeah, how did you get mud thru the filter and into the intake? Were you running it filterless?

And the Big 3 are wondering why they are losing market share to Toyota and Nissan. Apparently last years Toyota Tundra had the highest crash survivability rating of any truck made. Ford and Dodge were "poor," GM was "marginal"


well i bought my very last chevy truck in 04. trying to get a water leak in to the cab fixed, the stealer riped apart the inter. I had to have the truck painted to becouse of there cheep fixes. thay used some type of harding glue to glue the door gasket and during a ice storm the door froze to the seal pulling the paint right off.

abs still kicks in. thay still have no clue as to what i cousing it. other than i mite be hiting sand at 10 mph. ran thru a red light once got lucky no on coming cars.

after 8 moths the truck started backfiring and bucking. started losing pulling power big time. the stealer could not find the problem no codes. I desided to fix it. with the help of the net found thay had a problem with distrbutors getting water in them. bingo now i can light up the tires with out even trying of it.

after i signed the paper work i have had nothing but bad service. you try to get something fixed right the first time. under wornty mite as well be talking to a wall.

the sad part is I had a realy good gmc dealer till he retired. I could call him up and order a truck, call the bank have the check on his desk. then pick up the truck the next day. thay would service it fast and right. as sood as the truck was done with testing thay would call you to let you know it was done. then if needed thay would drop the truck off ware you worked or pick you up.

with the new dealers you got to call them to find out if your truck is done. heck mine sat for two days with me calling every two hours. thay would not call me. there was a problem with the door gasket and it took them over a week to get the part. knowing i needed the truck that week end for a job i had to do out of state. there rental car had a had time hulling all my tools but i got the job done.

A month ago I paid $8200.00 to replace an engine in my 2000 silverado, and it took two tries to get the engine replaced. The first replacement engine was defective right out of the crate!.
I think I'd rather deal with the suspension problem. :disappoin

I agree with ya, I'm a little disappointed in my GM also.
I had better luck with the older body style.

To be honest, I've already been there. I had an 81 Olds Omega, 2.8LV6, and while going through the curve on an exit ramp, my left front wheel literaly folded under the car, and the half shaft did a pretty good job on the rest of the left front fender.

I bought this car new, and at the time of the part failure, the car had 24,000 miles on it (still under warranty) , and it cost me a bundle to repair, because GM said it was accidental damage. Nearly 2 years later, GM recalled the "X" bodies due to a malfunction in the Rack and Pinion that could cause the left front wheel to become doslodged while in a RH turn. Imagine that!

It took another 2 years of arguing with GM to get my money back. I even got the dealer to write a letter explaining that the repairs were due to the defect in the rack and pinion unit, and GM still argued the refund for two years.

At least DC is recalling the Durangos for a repair. GM is still denying that piston slap ever existed.

A little less than 2 months ago, I spent $8200.00 replacing an engine in my 2000 Silverado. The GM rep and I are still "discussing" it.

Yeah, I've had both experiences, and both were with GM products. I say we need to clean our own back yard before we start point at others.

My opinions are based on MY experiences, not something I heard. Yeah, I still be GM products, but I'm no where near as loyal as I could be, because GM is no longer as good as they could be.

I'm with you bro on this one also. GM could care less about its customers.

I bought a 2000 Silverado LS at a local dealer about a month ago and last week the rear view mirror with compass and temp quit working. Two days ago I took it back to the same dealer, not only did they replace the mirror (a $500 part) but informed me of two recalls on the truck (abs brakes and tailgate straps) and did the updates. Remember this is a 6 year truck that I bought used. To me that is great service and will keep me coming back to GM.

Dont take offense but your clueless. Your troubles are just begining and that nagging feeling you have about wether you should have bought an import will soon become clear. Those recalls you talked about after 6 years? They occured only because the NTSB slapped GM's Hand and made them fix it after 6 years of denieing there was a problem. Oh ya and some por fool had to die as a result of GM's Negligence...jj

So what? Are you saying that because Dodges have trans problems, that it's alright for quality control at GM to go down?
Or is it the old misery enjoys company thing?

Either way, when I drop $30K plus for a pick up truck I should be able to expect it to free of defects? I don't care who built it.
When you buy a new truck, and you get recall after recall, no matter how minor, you should be upset enough to let the manufacturer know that you're not happy, and that if they expect to keep you as a customer, the need to do better.

Or, each time you get a recall, you can sit back and tell yourself that is okay, because Dodge is recalling trucks too. :rolleyes:
The recall is better than the alternative. They could not say a thing and make you initiate the repairs when you find the problem. Honesty is better. At least they try to make us happy.

Here's Your Sign!!!!!!!!!

Well said!

For all of you that think the imports may be a better thing, I'm going to put my experience in. Im a mechanic in the army, and have been stationed alot of places. You should see the stuff that these importers keep in their home countries. They are all junk. Im in Korea at the moment and you cant find a vehicle over 10 years old because they have died and been scraped, unless its an import (Chevy, Ford, Etc.). You should see what is considered a truck here, same in Japan as well. I drive a Kia Bongo for work alot, and what I wouldnt trade to have my Z71. And I while I was in Kuwait most of the work trucks there were older Chevies. I saw a 95 Z71 owned by one of the local companies that had 350,000 miles on it, and those were desert miles. It ran just as good as the 98 I had waiting for me at home with 85,000 miles on it. Sorry if I seem like im ranting, the only REAL trucks ive driven or seen for the last 9 months are American made HMMWV's and the occasional Chevy. Just a little personal experiance about the imports.
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Ok, you dont think imports have any problems..... I just think not everyone buys as many imports here or something. All cars have problems and issues wether they come from over seas or not. Its all about money. How much money "the maker" can pocket, without having to much expenses. They all will give and take. Why does GM have good resale values on there trucks. Why do import cars have such good resale value. Except hyndias. I used to work for Jiffy lube, that was fun. And let me tell you I have seen the underside of so many cars I can tell you anything you need to know about almost every car made! Leaks and squeks from all of them. But besides the point. I think we need to start talking about how a person takes care of there vehicles..... Do I have a point here?? If you push your truck or car harder its not going to last as long. :rofl: I feel like we are going in circles

if you think the recall on the tailgate straps is bad, wait until the one for the front abs shows up in the mail. i found out about 2 weeks 2 late. when they go bad you dont have brakes between 3 and 7 mph (not good if you live in a city were 3 to 7 is common at stop lights) needless to say i took it to the dealer for the problem and they said they would fix it and not to worry about the recall letter i was going to get. but even with that i have a 99 with 250k miles, all i have ever done is the front break recall, an alternator and a starter, not bad all in all

were can i find out about recent recalls? i have an 05 silverado rcsb.


thanks

If you look closely you will find parts from all over the world on your truck.
They are assembled in the USA (some in Mexico)
Mine was built in Canada. :)

Ok, you dont think imports have any problems..... I just think not everyone buys as many imports here or something. All cars have problems and issues wether they come from over seas or not. Its all about money. How much money "the maker" can pocket, without having to much expenses. They all will give and take. Why does GM have good resale values on there trucks. Why do import cars have such good resale value. Except hyndias. I used to work for Jiffy lube, that was fun. And let me tell you I have seen the underside of so many cars I can tell you anything you need to know about almost every car made! Leaks and squeks from all of them. But besides the point. I think we need to start talking about how a person takes care of there vehicles..... Do I have a point here?? If you push your truck or car harder its not going to last as long. :rofl: I feel like we are going in circles

I agree with you on this.. Most people do not know how to take care of the vehicle properly.
However, there are things that will break, Some makes and models are better then other. But for the most part, most vehicles are about the same. If you drive it, you have a higher chance of something breaking. I have 156K miles on my 2000 silverado. And I have been very pleased for the most part.. I mean it has it's quirks. But Not as many as the Ford's I have owned. I have been very happy with Chevy in the long run.

were can i find out about recent recalls? i have an 05 silverado rcsb.

were can i find out about recent recalls? i have an 05 silverado rcsb.


i never get any notifications in the mail about them. but i do no of a few such as the power steering awhile back.