300ZX Z32 (NA) vs. 3000GT (SL)

Hey!

Went to the INFAMOUS street races (Ontario, Ca.) this past Friday night/Early Saturday morning and had a blast! It has been a few years since I have been... (last-time me and my friends were shot at... glad to see it has calmed down some!) and it looks like it's still going strong! I did not really want to run this night 'cus I had my friend and brother riding along. I just pulled up and parked and saw a few runs. Honrable mentions: WRX kills Mustang GT, Mean sounding COBRA (???) slaughters 1970-ish Corvette (both these guys were built... not sure what they were running!), S14 pulls on MX6.... I was enjoying the races and chatted with a guy who was driving his chick's G35 (brand spanking new and stock! He didn't want to run sadly but understandably).

Like I said... I had no intention on running this night but as we were running from the cops to the next location someone pulled up right on my ass, then swerved to the right-lane next to me. A purple 3000GT (SL) pulls up by me. The driver keeps looking over and starts talking to his buddy and keeps on smiling. There is no-one in front of us. He wants to run. I got two passengers. He's got an 3000GT SL. I got a Z32 NA AT 2+2. Let's roll! I feather the throttle and rush foward then slow down... just to show him my intentions. He responds with the same action. We wait... then we gun it! At first he pulls ahead of me but I'm all-over him! He has some mods... I can hear his exhaust and I'm sure he has intake (very throaty). About a 1/4 mile or more down the road I still have nearly a full car length on him. My passengers are loving it! Then we catch up with the rest of the pack and we gotta slow-down... he turns off onto a street so I can't give him props. Wish we were able to go at again. I'm sure I would have totally massacarred him if not for at least one of my passengers!

nice kill

you think you would have massacred him because of one passenger?

nothing against you 1viadrft but, i swear some people are so obsessed with weight that they might as well go to jenny craig or something.

one thing i will never do is complain about a passenger as the reason for a loss. that's just stupid to me

again no offense 1viadrft
and good kill, it would have been cool to pull over and talk after that one

i also dont think you wouldve massacred him even without the passenger. these two cars are pretty even.

so you honestly think losing 150lbs in car doesnt' do anything? he wouldn't have massacred him like he said he would, but it would definitly put him one more car ahead. whenever i floor my car to show someone how it pulls, it never pulls the same as it does when i'm alone. so thats why i'd rather let other people ( who i trust in skill ) to drive my car rather then me taking them for a spin.

as far as statistics are concerned
222hp engine vs 222hp engine
rwd vs fwd
dont know about weight of the 2 in comparison but its very well possible his car was heavier than yours anyway (that is, if we are going to obsess about weight factors)
its possible his exhaust was draining out more power than it was giving.
Also at what point did you take the lead? if he pulled ahead of you but you were all over him i would have thought that meant keeping up with him closely.

I love both of these cars so i can't be all too biased. All facts aside, it was most likely a drivers race and you came out on top, good kill.

All I can say is sweet race man. But as for the last time you went to Ontario : you got shot at? Jesus, I'd never go back there haha.

so you honestly think losing 150lbs in car doesnt' do anything? he wouldn't have massacred him like he said he would, but it would definitly put him one more car ahead. whenever i floor my car to show someone how it pulls, it never pulls the same as it does when i'm alone. so thats why i'd rather let other people ( who i trust in skill ) to drive my car rather then me taking them for a spin.

Thanks, TatII...




as far as statistics are concerned
222hp engine vs 222hp engine
rwd vs fwd
dont know about weight of the 2 in comparison but its very well possible his car was heavier than yours anyway (that is, if we are going to obsess about weight factors)
its possible his exhaust was draining out more power than it was giving.
Also at what point did you take the lead? if he pulled ahead of you but you were all over him i would have thought that meant keeping up with him closely.

I love both of these cars so i can't be all too biased. All facts aside, it was most likely a drivers race and you came out on top, good kill.

He actually gunned it before I realized it... and went right after him. As soon as I was on the throttle I was ahead of him. I believe my car is a little heavier (I have a 2+2 and I had two passengers) and you are right on the dot with the HP. I believe I have a little more torque, however (as do all NISSAN's) and that's probably what got me past him. As far as mods I only have a BLITZ SUS intake and 'mufflers'. It was probably pretty even of a race... the road was not exactly straight either. I would love to run this guy again if chance allows! No passengers this time!

I love 3000GT's myself and have much respect for them... maybe I can be cool like YoungVR4 and own a VR4 someday! Thanks for the props guys!

All I can say is sweet race man. But as for the last time you went to Ontario : you got shot at? Jesus, I'd never go back there haha.

Yeah... sucks! One of our passnegers got shot in his hip! This is one of the reasons I stopped going tp the races... happend about three years ago.

Nice kill :sunglasse I hope you do get a chance to line up again.













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i'm not soo sure about pulling a whole nother car on him from 150lbs, thats about equal to .15 sec

and i'm not saying it wouldn't have helped, we all know less wieght helps but..................... ahhh who cares, nice run

LoL

Thanks youngVr4! Hey when did you become a MOD?



BTW:

3000gt SL
3373lb (suppossed)
222hp @ 6000rpm
201lb ft @ 4500rpm (???Can anyone confirm this???)

300ZX NA 2+2
4190lb (gross... anyone know the exact weight?)
222hp @ 6000rpm
198lb ft @ 4800rpm

I'm not quite sure on some of these numbers... theoretically he should have been able to beat me...

The 300 is over 4100 pounds?!? I don't buy that for a minute. http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/used/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/2347#specifications comes back with around 3400 pounds so it sounds like same ballpark as the SL.













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Well that's gross-weight... plus I have a 2+2! They weigh more than the Coupe... like I said... I'm not sure on some of those #'s...

3,414lbs

http://www.zilvia.net/faqs/specs/z32specs.asp

yeah i highly doubt it weighs 4100

3000gt SL
3373lb (suppossed)
222hp @ 6000rpm
201lb ft @ 4500rpm (???Can anyone confirm this???)


Depending on the year
weight varies from 3,263-3,524lbs
218-222hp
and 201-205 ft/lbs

So you were right regarding those.

Well... I guess we were pretty much even then, huh?

Maybe he misshift?


OR MAYBE I'M JUST MORE OF A BAD-ASS! LoL Thanks for the info guys!

yea it could be that you were probably the better driver and by the way congrats on the kill and on the bad ass ride you got.

yea it could be that you were probably the better driver and by the way congrats on the kill and on the bad ass ride you got.

Thanks... I can't wait to get some more mods though... I'm getting my HKS Automatic Line Controller this weekend so my 1/4 mile should be getting better. Maybe headers next. Can't wait until the stroked engine though (in about two years)... I'll definately will start leaving those SL's behind me! I'll be keeping an eye out for him.

Depending on the year
weight varies from 3,263-3,524lbs
218-222hp
and 201-205 ft/lbs

So you were right regarding those.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.... He may have had less HP then, huh?

i'm pretty sure its kinda hard to do a tt conversion on the base as it is with the sl ha?

HuH? What do you mean?

Nice kill I guess but you got an auto right? was his auto too? cause I dont see how an auto with the same hp can pull on a car ahead by "getting on it (gas pedal)". I imagine if he downshifted you would of passed him to about a half car and then at top of the gear he would of passed you then pulled! maybe he didnt know how to drive!
purple 3000GT......something fishy about that......I wonder if it had airbags too....and tv's on the sunshade!

doubting him because of the color of the car?

and why should the sl have pulled on him?

well I dont know if I am right or not but I've driven auto 300zxs and 3000GTs and the difference in response is thier! I belive him but I know I can pull on an auto from a roll! maybe I just drive different.

Now about the color....well the last purple 3S I saw was on cardomain. the guy had it on airbags and full of bling bling crap that belongs on a Escalade or Navigator. not a sport car. I just wonder if the guy chose Purple cause he is ghetto fabulous or cause the dude just loves Prince!

They used to make maroon 3000gts, not exactly purple, but close in the dark.

Yuh... I have an AT... I'm not sure about him... as far as I can tell he did not mis-shift as if he had a MT (as far as sound goes... but then again I was not really thinking about that kinda stuff). He may very well have had an AT. Who knows? Like I said i did not get a chance to talk to him... but will be sure to flag him down if I see him again! It was a purple or maroon color... not sure exactly... it was dark. I didn't notice ant ricey TV's nor did he 'hit his switches' as we raced... he seemed like a legitimate 'racer'. Fun race...