04 Denali Nav/Prob/question

Anybody had on and off issues with their Nav system where as it states 'Disc" error" or takes forever to boot up? I have tried cleaning the disc. I also inspected the disc for chips and such. I really do not want to have to take it back to the dealer. It would mean being without a ride all day only to pick it up to find that they could not reproduce what I brought it in for?

Any inputs would be greatly appreciated. If anything it would help me narrow down the problem.

Thanks

Can you repeat the problem with another disc - CD or DVD? My first guess is that the laser needs to be realigned, which would potentially be confirmed if you encounter the problem with other media. Good luck - please keep us posted.

Take care,
Jerry

I had the same problem... Took it to the dealer and they had to send the unit out. After being without a radio for a week, they ended up just putting a new one in. It worked out ok for me though. I have an '03 and they put an '04 unit in. Not that big of a deal, but the '04 has a couple extra features... Hey maybe you'll get real lucky get the '05 touchscreen unit! Good luck...

My touch screen navigation is doing the same thing and the truck has less than a thousand miles on it. It seems to be doing it more now since I upgraded to version map disc version 4.1 . I am waiting to get a new 3.0 disc to find out if it is the disc or the unit. I hope the unit does not have to be pulled. It has already been modified to display DVD video.

My touch screen navigation is doing the same thing and the truck has less than a thousand miles on it. It seems to be doing it more now since I upgraded to version map disc version 4.1 . I am waiting to get a new 3.0 disc to find out if it is the disc or the unit. I hope the unit does not have to be pulled. It has already been modified to display DVD video.
There's a 4.1 nav disc out already? And what's with the ".1"? I didn't even hear anything about a 4.0 version and there's a 4.1?

There's a 4.1 nav disc out already? And what's with the ".1"? I didn't even hear anything about a 4.0 version and there's a 4.1?


Yep, brand new but doesn't work properly in my unit. I would hold off before trying this version. It is buggy !!!

Yep, brand new but doesn't work properly in my unit. I would hold off before trying this version. It is buggy !!!


What probs are you having with it? I have a 4.1 too and are not seeing any probs, yet!

What probs are you having with it? I have a 4.1 too and are not seeing any probs, yet!


I was getting a constant "disc error" message whenever I started the vehicle with the 4.1 ver disc. Now that I have switched back to 3.0 it has worked flawlessly. Maybe my 4.1 disc was bad. I am going to try a new one in a few weeks to see if the problem continues.

I was getting a constant "disc error" message whenever I started the vehicle with the 4.1 ver disc. Now that I have switched back to 3.0 it has worked flawlessly. Maybe my 4.1 disc was bad. I am going to try a new one in a few weeks to see if the problem continues.


I have a 04 and had the same problem with the nav earlier. Took it into the dealer and they supposedly fixed it. Now I'm having the same problem again.

Is there really a 4.1 Nav map disc out? The dealerships in my area don't seem to know anything about it. I was looking to upgrade to the 3.0 version, but if there is a 4.1 I would like to get the most up to date version.

4.1 Navigation Disc part # 15792651

3.0 Navigation Disc part # 10390370

www.gmpartsdirect.com has the 4.1 disc cheaper than the 3.0 version. $149.00 for the 4.1 vs. $201.59 for the 3.0. I currently have both versions and the 4.1 is causing a constant "disc error" message everytime I start the vehicle or insert the disc. It only works 10% of the time. The 3.0 works perfectly with no errors.

4.1 Navigation Disc part # 15792651

3.0 Navigation Disc part # 10390370

www.gmpartsdirect.com has the 4.1 disc cheaper than the 3.0 version. $149.00 for the 4.1 vs. $201.59 for the 3.0. I currently have both versions and the 4.1 is causing a constant "disc error" message everytime I start the vehicle or insert the disc. It only works 10% of the time. The 3.0 works perfectly with no errors.


Are you sure the 4.1 version is for the Denali nav. The parts guy at the dealership is telling me that its for the Cadillac Car Nav systems and it isn't supposed to be for the Escalade, Denali, Chevy, nav systems. He's saying that the Cadillac cars have a different Nav system than the SUV's. He may just be blowing smoke I don't know.

Are you sure the 4.1 version is for the Denali nav. The parts guy at the dealership is telling me that its for the Cadillac Car Nav systems and it isn't supposed to be for the Escalade, Denali, Chevy, nav systems. He's saying that the Cadillac cars have a different Nav system than the SUV's. He may just be blowing smoke I don't know.

The 4.1 disc (part #15792651) I have updated the firmware when it was 1st put in and has been working perfectly for the past 2 weeks in my '03 Denali. And I use it every day. I don't think it's for a caddy, if it was, it shouldn't have update the system. On the other hand, I could be wrong and very lucky it's working!

The 4.1 disc (part #15792651) I have updated the firmware when it was 1st put in and has been working perfectly for the past 2 weeks in my '03 Denali. And I use it every day. I don't think it's for a caddy, if it was, it shouldn't have update the system. On the other hand, I could be wrong and very lucky it's working!


How did you update the 'firmware'? Did the dealership do the update for you, or is there another CD we need to get to do the update? I have version 1.0 that came with my 04 Denali. Do I need to update it to version 3.0 first then 4.1 or can I just go directly to 4.1 after the 'firmware' update?

How did you update the 'firmware'? Did the dealership do the update for you, or is there another CD we need to get to do the update? I have version 1.0 that came with my 04 Denali. Do I need to update it to version 3.0 first then 4.1 or can I just go directly to 4.1 after the 'firmware' update?

When you put the new dvd for the very first time, whatever version, 3 or 4.1, it will update your nav. It takes about 5-10 minutes and then loads the new dvd. I was told this was updating the firmware on the nav by a local GMC tech. It took mine about 7 minutes.
Before I got the 4.1, I was using a friends 3.0 from his '05 (he never used the nav) and it did the same thing, updated first, then loaded the dvd.

When you put the new dvd for the very first time, whatever version, 3 or 4.1, it will update your nav. It takes about 5-10 minutes and then loads the new dvd. I was told this was updating the firmware on the nav by a local GMC tech. It took mine about 7 minutes.
Before I got the 4.1, I was using a friends 3.0 from his '05 (he never used the nav) and it did the same thing, updated first, then loaded the dvd.



So again do you need to update the Nav to the 3.0 software first before going to the 4.1 version? On my wife's BMW if you skipped an update you missed some of the improvements to the Nav system. Usually in each update they remove some of the glitches from the previous version. I'm wondering if the other person on the board having so much trouble with the 4.1 update went straight from the 2.0 version without installing the 3.0 version first. Any thoughts?

So again do you need to update the Nav to the 3.0 software first before going to the 4.1 version? On my wife's BMW if you skipped an update you missed some of the improvements to the Nav system. Usually in each update they remove some of the glitches from the previous version. I'm wondering if the other person on the board having so much trouble with the 4.1 update went straight from the 2.0 version without installing the 3.0 version first. Any thoughts?


I can say for sure if it made a diff, but that's what I did and my 4.1 works. So, if you can get your hands on a 3.0 for 15 minutes, then I would do it first.

So what are the improvements in 4.1 versus 3.0?

Do you notice any differences other than more current map data?

The question that begs to be asked, is...why wasn't there a 4.0? I mean, it's kind of strange to go from 3.0 to 4.1 w/o hitting 4.0 first...or did GM release 4.0 and found out right away that it was buggy and thus released 4.1 soon afterward?

I think the 4.0 version map disc is only for the Cadillac passenger car navigation systems. The 4.1 is for the truck line. My guess is they did not want the same version number for both discs because it could become confusing and dealers would be selling the wrong discs for the wrong nav systems. I did not notice any difference between 3.0 and 4.1 other than the guidance voice is a little different. The map data for my area is the same, no difference.

Can you tell me how you modofoed it to display dvd video or where to get information on this

Can you tell me how you modofoed it to display dvd video or where to get information on this


You can order the module and ribbon cable needed for the radio from here >> http://www.tvandnav2go.com/index.html . If you call and ask for Dominick he can walk you thru the instructions on connecting the module, ribbon cable, and tapping into the rear dvd unit for signal which allows you to watch a movie on the navigation radio screen.

I just got an 06 nav installed in my 03 Denali. after the dealer replaced the 03 unit 5 times, I went to the zone rep and put up a big stink. so he got me a brand new unit. Now I'm just waiting for a new nav CD. The morons figured out they couldn't use my ver 1.0 cd in a new 06 nav.

and did you see... Delphi filed for bankruptcey.. good because their nav unit's suck !

I have an 06 nav unit in my 03 denali. The 06 has NO scroll !!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad:
after the dealer replace the 03 nav 5 times, they finally gave me an 06 unit. Now I have NO scroll !!!!!!!!!!!!

touch screen, Big F in deal. the scroll was great !!!

unless someone can tell me how to scroll with an 06 nav unit ??

I have an 06 nav unit in my 03 denali. The 06 has NO scroll !!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad:
after the dealer replace the 03 nav 5 times, they finally gave me an 06 unit. Now I have NO scroll !!!!!!!!!!!!

touch screen, Big F in deal. the scroll was great !!!

unless someone can tell me how to scroll with an 06 nav unit ??
You can sorta scroll--the catch is that you can't do a one-touch scroll like you can w/ the joystick-control nav. You "scroll" by touching any of the edges of the screen in order to scroll in that particular direction; the problem with this is that you have to repetitively touch the screen edge in order to continuously scroll the map display. That's the price to pay for replacing joystick functionality w/ a touchscreen.

ah yes...
the units are DIFFERENT indeed. I have to relearn my NAV skills.

Now I'm using the ver 1 CD in my 06 nav.
is there any benifit of upgrading to the 4.1 ver CD ??

ah yes...
the units are DIFFERENT indeed. I have to relearn my NAV skills.

Now I'm using the ver 1 CD in my 06 nav.
is there any benifit of upgrading to the 4.1 ver CD ??
From version 1? I would imagine that quite a few streets have been added to the map database during the three years that have elapsed from v1 to v4.x; that alone should make it worthwhile to upgrade.

How did you get them to give you a new NAV? I've had mine replaced twice and I'm still having problems. The dealer told me they would keep replacing until I was happy but they won't give me the new touchscreen version.


I have an 06 nav unit in my 03 denali. The 06 has NO scroll !!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad:
after the dealer replace the 03 nav 5 times, they finally gave me an 06 unit. Now I have NO scroll !!!!!!!!!!!!

touch screen, Big F in deal. the scroll was great !!!

unless someone can tell me how to scroll with an 06 nav unit ??

after they replaced my nav 5 times, I went baserk. I was sick and fed up with them. the service manager manager was USELESS. I want higher. Ask for the ZONE REP. They give you excuses why you can't see the zone rep. but keep on hounding them.

after 5 replacements, and a 2" thick folder of receipts, and 3 years later, I finally got a touch screen. I didn't ask for the touch screen. I told them the refurbished units are garbage. I told them I want NEW, no more refurbs. They lied and told me it was new.

so they put another REFURB unit in there, and it was DOA !!!!! this happened right in front of the zone rep!!! so he ordered me an 06 radio.
but it took 2 additional months of nagging to get him to keep his promise. Then it took another 2 weeks to get my disk back !!!

after 3 years, I finally got a working nav. and the 06 unit can't find my street name. if I'm on the street it can find it. but if I enter it in as a destination, can't be found. The system has many flaws.

if I'm on the street it can find it. but if I enter it in as a destination, can't be found. The system has many flaws.
Interesting...could be a firmware-type issue due to the v1 disc you have in your nav unit. I assume that you set the region number (there are 8, IIRC) to where you're currently located--e.g., say I'm in California, which is region #1 IIRC...the nav will correctly identify on the map display the street name that I'm on (verified by pressing the "NAV" button, assuming of course that your street is indeed indexed on the nav disc); however, if I try to search for the street name via Address search and the region on my nav unit is set to a different region (e.g., some East Coast region), the address lookup may indeed find my street name (if it happens to be a common one like "Main") but it won't necessarily be the exact one I'm looking for in my region.

I have heard other complaints about the same thing. I will buy the 4.1 DVD and try again. it should be interesting....

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