winding sound - alternator??

I started having this winding sound on my Pacifica. Never heard it before but seems to give me the idea my alternator is about to give out. Took it in and mechanic said that this is common with the Pacifica and once it is "broken in" it will make this winding noise coming from the engine-alternator. Has anyone else experienced this and what came of it?

I started having this winding sound on my Pacifica. Never heard it before but seems to give me the idea my alternator is about to give out. Took it in and mechanic said that this is common with the Pacifica and once it is "broken in" it will make this winding noise coming from the engine-alternator. Has anyone else experienced this and what came of it?


I dont own a Pacifica...Yet. I currently own a 98 Chevy Malibu but due to numerious continuing issues w/it, we are thinking about the possibility of buying a new car. We had a Pacifica this last June for a rental and WOW I must say it is at the top of our list. I would be very curious to know more about them (problem wise). I know they are brand new and people say usually new model cars have difficulty the first year but since this is the only entry on this website so far, I am impressed. Please let us know what comes of your alternator issue.

This TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) is likely your problem!


THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES SERVICE BULLETIN 09-004-04, DATED FEBRUARY
17, 2004, WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES. ALL REVISIONS ARE
HIGHLIGHTED WITH **ASTERISKS** AND INCLUDES ADDITIONAL MODEL YEAR.
SUBJECT:
Accessory Drive Belt Squeaking/Chirping Sound
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves checking accessory drive belt pulleys for proper alignment.
MODELS:
2004 - **2005** (CS) Pacifica
NOTE: **This bulletin applies to CS vehicles equipped with a 3.5L engine (sales code
EGN) with a build date on or before May 11, 2004 (MDH 0511XX).**
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
The vehicle operator may describe a squeaking/chirping sound from the front of the
engine. The sound may be intermittent. The sound may occur when starting the engine,
while idling when the engine is warmed up, or while driving.
PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty. Part No. Description
AR (1) 04861850AA BELT, A/C Compressor for vehicles built on or before
10-11-03
AR (1) 04861850AB BELT, A/C Compressor for vehicles built after 10-11-03
DIAGNOSIS:
If the vehicle operator describes the Symptom/Condition and the technician determines
that the sound is coming from the accessory drive belt area, perform the Repair
Procedure.
SPECIAL TOOLS/EQUIPMENT REQUIRED:
C-4333 Remover, Pulley
C4063B Installer, P/S Pump Pulley
8433A Generator De-coupler, Remover/Installer
NUMBER: 09-004-04 REV A
GROUP: Engine
DATE: May 25, 2004
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
1. Visually inspect the accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the generator for any
sign of belt misalignment on the pulley. The belt must be centered over all groves on
the pulley. It should not overlap the pulley flange on one side (Fig. 1). If belt is
misaligned perform Step #2. If the belt is not misaligned on the generator pulley
proceed to Step #4.
NOTE: If the belt was misinstalled over the generator pulley, the generator does not
need to be replaced.
NOTE: If the accessory drive belt is damaged in any way it must be replaced. Refer
to the service information available in TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica
service manual, publication no. 81-270-04035, page 7-6.
2. Loosen the accessory drive belt.
3. Place belt over all groves on the pulley. Be sure the belt is centered over all groves on
the pulley and does not overlap the pulley flange on one side (Fig. 1).
Fig. 1 GENERATOR
1 - Accessory Drive Belt Groves
4. Remove the accessory drive belt shield from the vehicle. Refer to the service
information available in TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica service manual,
publication no. 81-270-04035, page 7-6.
5. Visually inspect the accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys
for any sign of misalignment (Fig. 2).
09-004-04 REV A -2-
Fig. 2 ACCESSORY DRIVE BELT
1 - GENERATOR
2 - ALTERNATOR IDLER PULLEY
3 - AUTOMATIC BELT TENSIONER
4 - POWER STEERING (P/S) PUMP PULLEY
5 - AIR CONDITIONING IDLER PULLEY
6 - AIR CONDITIONING COMPRESSOR PULLEY
7 - CRANKSHAFT PULLEY
8 - ACCESSORY DRIVE BELT
9 - CRANKSHAFT IDLER PULLEY
6. Remove the accessory drive belt. Refer to the service information available in
TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica service manual, publication no. 81-270-04035,
page 7-6.
7. Check to ensure the torque on the fastener for the generator idler pulley is correct, 28
Nm (250 In. Lbs.), and the generator idler pulley assembly is not wobbly or loose.
Repair or replace if necessary. If no problem is found, proceed to Step #8. If a problem
was repaired, install accessory drive belt. Start the engine and visually inspect the
accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys for any sign of
misalignment. If misalignment is present, proceed to Step #8. If misalignment is
corrected, proceed to Step #14.
8. Check to ensure the torque on the fastener for the automatic belt tensioner is correct,
28 Nm (250 In. Lbs.), and the automatic belt tensioner assembly is not wobbly or
loose. Repair or replace if necessary. If no problem is found, proceed to Step #9. If a
problem was repaired, install accessory drive belt. Start the engine and visually
inspect the accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys for any
sign of misalignment. If misalignment is present, proceed to Step #9. If misalignment is
corrected, proceed to Step #14.
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9. Check to ensure the torque on the fastener for the air conditioning idler pulley is
correct, 28 Nm (250 In. Lbs.), and the air conditioning idler pulley assembly is not
wobbly or loose. Repair or replace if necessary. If no problem is found, proceed to
Step #10. If a problem was repaired, install accessory drive belt. Start the engine and
visually inspect the accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys for
any sign of misalignment. If misalignment is present, proceed to Step #10. If
misalignment is corrected, proceed to Step #14.
10. Check to ensure the torque on the fasteners for the crankshaft pulley are correct, 115
Nm (85 ft. Lbs.) and the crankshaft pulley is not wobbly or loose. Repair or replace if
necessary. If no problem is found, proceed to Step #11. If a problem was repaired,
install accessory drive belt. Start the engine and visually inspect the accessory drive
belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys for any sign of misalignment. If
misalignment is present, proceed to Step #11. If misalignment is corrected, proceed to
Step #14.
11. Check to ensure the torque on the fastener for the crankshaft idler pulley is correct, 28
Nm (250 In. Lbs.), and the crankshaft idler pulley assembly is not wobbly or loose.
Repair or replace if necessary. If no problem is found, proceed to Step #12. If a
problem was repaired, install accessory drive belt. Start the engine and visually
inspect the accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys for any
sign of misalignment. If misalignment is present, proceed to Step #12. If misalignment
is corrected, proceed to Step #14.
12. Check to ensure the P/S pump pulley is properly pressed flush to the end of the P/S
pump shaft. If repair is necessary, remove the P/S pump. Refer to the service
information available in TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica service manual, page
19-24 through 19-26. After repair, if misalignment is still present, proceed to Step #13.
If misalignment is corrected proceed to Step #14
13. Gain access to and remove the P/S pump fasteners. Refer to the service information
available in TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica service manual, page 19-24 through
19-26. Obtain 3 washers 1.0 mm (0.040 in.) thick. Add the washers between the P/S
pump to timing cover interface. Torque the fasteners to 23 Nm (200 in. lbs.).
14. Reassemble per service information available in TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica
service manual page 19-24 through 19-26.
POLICY:
Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.
09-004-04 REV A -4-
B.

I test drove one, and may purchase one next year. I just got a new vehicle, but am considering a second one for use come winter.

I liked the Pacifica alot. The availablity of the 3rd bench that folds down is awesome. Roomier than a Highlander I test drove.

As for the winding noise, have you talked to the dealer you got it from? After reading your post, I contacted my dealership that I got my Jeep from, Rockland Auto Plaza, and asked them about the winding noise. So far, no one who has purchased a Pacifica in this area I'm in has contacted them about any noise. If you live in my area, maybe you can give them a call and see if your car just has one simple glitch

I started having this winding sound on my Pacifica. Never heard it before but seems to give me the idea my alternator is about to give out. Took it in and mechanic said that this is common with the Pacifica and once it is "broken in" it will make this winding noise coming from the engine-alternator. Has anyone else experienced this and what came of it?

I've got a 2004 Pac and it makes a winding noise as a result of the engine fan kicking on, or kicking into a higer gear. Overall the car has been very solid and I believe the fan noise is a normal part of the engine operating.

I just bought a new Pacifica AWD, my wife and I really like it. We have less than 6K miles and no problems so far. Fuel mileage is around what was stated by epa ratings but appears to be getting a little better as it breaks in. No odd sounds yet!

I just bought a new Pacifica AWD, my wife and I really like it. We have less than 6K miles and no problems so far. Fuel mileage is around what was stated by epa ratings but appears to be getting a little better as it breaks in. No odd sounds yet!

We love our Pacifica AWd as well, especially on long trips. It has a great range, with a 23 gallon tank. We get about 22 - 23 on the highway so that takes us about 440 miles at least on a highway trip.

The ride is really nice. We are starting to put a few too many miles on it so the Grand Cherokee will have to take us on the next couple of trips. I'd much prefer the Pac.

Yes I tried to find the following as you suggested and could not TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica service manual page 19-24 through 19-26.POLICY: I'm interested in any TSB's on 2004 Pacifica AWD or where and how I can find TSB's for the Car and others I own. I was given this TSB Number for a Problem I had with my 1999 Dodge Grand Caraven 070299 Could not get copy from dealer only number.

Thanks




This TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) is likely your problem!


THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES SERVICE BULLETIN 09-004-04, DATED FEBRUARY
17, 2004, WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES. ALL REVISIONS ARE
HIGHLIGHTED WITH **ASTERISKS** AND INCLUDES ADDITIONAL MODEL YEAR.
SUBJECT:
Accessory Drive Belt Squeaking/Chirping Sound
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves checking accessory drive belt pulleys for proper alignment.
MODELS:
2004 - **2005** (CS) Pacifica
NOTE: **This bulletin applies to CS vehicles equipped with a 3.5L engine (sales code
EGN) with a build date on or before May 11, 2004 (MDH 0511XX).**
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
The vehicle operator may describe a squeaking/chirping sound from the front of the
engine. The sound may be intermittent. The sound may occur when starting the engine,
while idling when the engine is warmed up, or while driving.
PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty. Part No. Description
AR (1) 04861850AA BELT, A/C Compressor for vehicles built on or before
10-11-03
AR (1) 04861850AB BELT, A/C Compressor for vehicles built after 10-11-03
DIAGNOSIS:
If the vehicle operator describes the Symptom/Condition and the technician determines
that the sound is coming from the accessory drive belt area, perform the Repair
Procedure.
SPECIAL TOOLS/EQUIPMENT REQUIRED:
C-4333 Remover, Pulley
C4063B Installer, P/S Pump Pulley
8433A Generator De-coupler, Remover/Installer
NUMBER: 09-004-04 REV A
GROUP: Engine
DATE: May 25, 2004
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
1. Visually inspect the accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the generator for any
sign of belt misalignment on the pulley. The belt must be centered over all groves on
the pulley. It should not overlap the pulley flange on one side (Fig. 1). If belt is
misaligned perform Step #2. If the belt is not misaligned on the generator pulley
proceed to Step #4.
NOTE: If the belt was misinstalled over the generator pulley, the generator does not
need to be replaced.
NOTE: If the accessory drive belt is damaged in any way it must be replaced. Refer
to the service information available in TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica
service manual, publication no. 81-270-04035, page 7-6.
2. Loosen the accessory drive belt.
3. Place belt over all groves on the pulley. Be sure the belt is centered over all groves on
the pulley and does not overlap the pulley flange on one side (Fig. 1).
Fig. 1 GENERATOR
1 - Accessory Drive Belt Groves
4. Remove the accessory drive belt shield from the vehicle. Refer to the service
information available in TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica service manual,
publication no. 81-270-04035, page 7-6.
5. Visually inspect the accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys
for any sign of misalignment (Fig. 2).
09-004-04 REV A -2-
Fig. 2 ACCESSORY DRIVE BELT
1 - GENERATOR
2 - ALTERNATOR IDLER PULLEY
3 - AUTOMATIC BELT TENSIONER
4 - POWER STEERING (P/S) PUMP PULLEY
5 - AIR CONDITIONING IDLER PULLEY
6 - AIR CONDITIONING COMPRESSOR PULLEY
7 - CRANKSHAFT PULLEY
8 - ACCESSORY DRIVE BELT
9 - CRANKSHAFT IDLER PULLEY
6. Remove the accessory drive belt. Refer to the service information available in
TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica service manual, publication no. 81-270-04035,
page 7-6.
7. Check to ensure the torque on the fastener for the generator idler pulley is correct, 28
Nm (250 In. Lbs.), and the generator idler pulley assembly is not wobbly or loose.
Repair or replace if necessary. If no problem is found, proceed to Step #8. If a problem
was repaired, install accessory drive belt. Start the engine and visually inspect the
accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys for any sign of
misalignment. If misalignment is present, proceed to Step #8. If misalignment is
corrected, proceed to Step #14.
8. Check to ensure the torque on the fastener for the automatic belt tensioner is correct,
28 Nm (250 In. Lbs.), and the automatic belt tensioner assembly is not wobbly or
loose. Repair or replace if necessary. If no problem is found, proceed to Step #9. If a
problem was repaired, install accessory drive belt. Start the engine and visually
inspect the accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys for any
sign of misalignment. If misalignment is present, proceed to Step #9. If misalignment is
corrected, proceed to Step #14.
-3- 09-004-04 REV A
9. Check to ensure the torque on the fastener for the air conditioning idler pulley is
correct, 28 Nm (250 In. Lbs.), and the air conditioning idler pulley assembly is not
wobbly or loose. Repair or replace if necessary. If no problem is found, proceed to
Step #10. If a problem was repaired, install accessory drive belt. Start the engine and
visually inspect the accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys for
any sign of misalignment. If misalignment is present, proceed to Step #10. If
misalignment is corrected, proceed to Step #14.
10. Check to ensure the torque on the fasteners for the crankshaft pulley are correct, 115
Nm (85 ft. Lbs.) and the crankshaft pulley is not wobbly or loose. Repair or replace if
necessary. If no problem is found, proceed to Step #11. If a problem was repaired,
install accessory drive belt. Start the engine and visually inspect the accessory drive
belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys for any sign of misalignment. If
misalignment is present, proceed to Step #11. If misalignment is corrected, proceed to
Step #14.
11. Check to ensure the torque on the fastener for the crankshaft idler pulley is correct, 28
Nm (250 In. Lbs.), and the crankshaft idler pulley assembly is not wobbly or loose.
Repair or replace if necessary. If no problem is found, proceed to Step #12. If a
problem was repaired, install accessory drive belt. Start the engine and visually
inspect the accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys for any
sign of misalignment. If misalignment is present, proceed to Step #12. If misalignment
is corrected, proceed to Step #14.
12. Check to ensure the P/S pump pulley is properly pressed flush to the end of the P/S
pump shaft. If repair is necessary, remove the P/S pump. Refer to the service
information available in TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica service manual, page
19-24 through 19-26. After repair, if misalignment is still present, proceed to Step #13.
If misalignment is corrected proceed to Step #14
13. Gain access to and remove the P/S pump fasteners. Refer to the service information
available in TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica service manual, page 19-24 through
19-26. Obtain 3 washers 1.0 mm (0.040 in.) thick. Add the washers between the P/S
pump to timing cover interface. Torque the fasteners to 23 Nm (200 in. lbs.).
14. Reassemble per service information available in TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica
service manual page 19-24 through 19-26.
POLICY:
Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.
09-004-04 REV A -4-
B.

Yes I tried to find the following as you suggested and could not TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica service manual page 19-24 through 19-26.POLICY: I'm interested in any TSB's on 2004 Pacifica AWD or where and how I can find TSB's for the Car and others I own. I was given this TSB Number for a Problem I had with my 1999 Dodge Grand Caraven 070299 Could not get copy from dealer only number.

Thanks
Gregg

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This TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) is likely your problem!


THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES SERVICE BULLETIN 09-004-04, DATED FEBRUARY
17, 2004, WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES. ALL REVISIONS ARE
HIGHLIGHTED WITH **ASTERISKS** AND INCLUDES ADDITIONAL MODEL YEAR.
SUBJECT:
Accessory Drive Belt Squeaking/Chirping Sound
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves checking accessory drive belt pulleys for proper alignment.
MODELS:
2004 - **2005** (CS) Pacifica
NOTE: **This bulletin applies to CS vehicles equipped with a 3.5L engine (sales code
EGN) with a build date on or before May 11, 2004 (MDH 0511XX).**
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
The vehicle operator may describe a squeaking/chirping sound from the front of the
engine. The sound may be intermittent. The sound may occur when starting the engine,
while idling when the engine is warmed up, or while driving.
PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty. Part No. Description
AR (1) 04861850AA BELT, A/C Compressor for vehicles built on or before
10-11-03
AR (1) 04861850AB BELT, A/C Compressor for vehicles built after 10-11-03
DIAGNOSIS:
If the vehicle operator describes the Symptom/Condition and the technician determines
that the sound is coming from the accessory drive belt area, perform the Repair
Procedure.
SPECIAL TOOLS/EQUIPMENT REQUIRED:
C-4333 Remover, Pulley
C4063B Installer, P/S Pump Pulley
8433A Generator De-coupler, Remover/Installer
NUMBER: 09-004-04 REV A
GROUP: Engine
DATE: May 25, 2004
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
1. Visually inspect the accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the generator for any
sign of belt misalignment on the pulley. The belt must be centered over all groves on
the pulley. It should not overlap the pulley flange on one side (Fig. 1). If belt is
misaligned perform Step #2. If the belt is not misaligned on the generator pulley
proceed to Step #4.
NOTE: If the belt was misinstalled over the generator pulley, the generator does not
need to be replaced.
NOTE: If the accessory drive belt is damaged in any way it must be replaced. Refer
to the service information available in TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica
service manual, publication no. 81-270-04035, page 7-6.
2. Loosen the accessory drive belt.
3. Place belt over all groves on the pulley. Be sure the belt is centered over all groves on
the pulley and does not overlap the pulley flange on one side (Fig. 1).
Fig. 1 GENERATOR
1 - Accessory Drive Belt Groves
4. Remove the accessory drive belt shield from the vehicle. Refer to the service
information available in TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica service manual,
publication no. 81-270-04035, page 7-6.
5. Visually inspect the accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys
for any sign of misalignment (Fig. 2).
09-004-04 REV A -2-
Fig. 2 ACCESSORY DRIVE BELT
1 - GENERATOR
2 - ALTERNATOR IDLER PULLEY
3 - AUTOMATIC BELT TENSIONER
4 - POWER STEERING (P/S) PUMP PULLEY
5 - AIR CONDITIONING IDLER PULLEY
6 - AIR CONDITIONING COMPRESSOR PULLEY
7 - CRANKSHAFT PULLEY
8 - ACCESSORY DRIVE BELT
9 - CRANKSHAFT IDLER PULLEY
6. Remove the accessory drive belt. Refer to the service information available in
TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica service manual, publication no. 81-270-04035,
page 7-6.
7. Check to ensure the torque on the fastener for the generator idler pulley is correct, 28
Nm (250 In. Lbs.), and the generator idler pulley assembly is not wobbly or loose.
Repair or replace if necessary. If no problem is found, proceed to Step #8. If a problem
was repaired, install accessory drive belt. Start the engine and visually inspect the
accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys for any sign of
misalignment. If misalignment is present, proceed to Step #8. If misalignment is
corrected, proceed to Step #14.
8. Check to ensure the torque on the fastener for the automatic belt tensioner is correct,
28 Nm (250 In. Lbs.), and the automatic belt tensioner assembly is not wobbly or
loose. Repair or replace if necessary. If no problem is found, proceed to Step #9. If a
problem was repaired, install accessory drive belt. Start the engine and visually
inspect the accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys for any
sign of misalignment. If misalignment is present, proceed to Step #9. If misalignment is
corrected, proceed to Step #14.
-3- 09-004-04 REV A
9. Check to ensure the torque on the fastener for the air conditioning idler pulley is
correct, 28 Nm (250 In. Lbs.), and the air conditioning idler pulley assembly is not
wobbly or loose. Repair or replace if necessary. If no problem is found, proceed to
Step #10. If a problem was repaired, install accessory drive belt. Start the engine and
visually inspect the accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys for
any sign of misalignment. If misalignment is present, proceed to Step #10. If
misalignment is corrected, proceed to Step #14.
10. Check to ensure the torque on the fasteners for the crankshaft pulley are correct, 115
Nm (85 ft. Lbs.) and the crankshaft pulley is not wobbly or loose. Repair or replace if
necessary. If no problem is found, proceed to Step #11. If a problem was repaired,
install accessory drive belt. Start the engine and visually inspect the accessory drive
belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys for any sign of misalignment. If
misalignment is present, proceed to Step #11. If misalignment is corrected, proceed to
Step #14.
11. Check to ensure the torque on the fastener for the crankshaft idler pulley is correct, 28
Nm (250 In. Lbs.), and the crankshaft idler pulley assembly is not wobbly or loose.
Repair or replace if necessary. If no problem is found, proceed to Step #12. If a
problem was repaired, install accessory drive belt. Start the engine and visually
inspect the accessory drive belt tracking by looking at the idler/drive pulleys for any
sign of misalignment. If misalignment is present, proceed to Step #12. If misalignment
is corrected, proceed to Step #14.
12. Check to ensure the P/S pump pulley is properly pressed flush to the end of the P/S
pump shaft. If repair is necessary, remove the P/S pump. Refer to the service
information available in TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica service manual, page
19-24 through 19-26. After repair, if misalignment is still present, proceed to Step #13.
If misalignment is corrected proceed to Step #14
13. Gain access to and remove the P/S pump fasteners. Refer to the service information
available in TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica service manual, page 19-24 through
19-26. Obtain 3 washers 1.0 mm (0.040 in.) thick. Add the washers between the P/S
pump to timing cover interface. Torque the fasteners to 23 Nm (200 in. lbs.).
14. Reassemble per service information available in TechCONNECT or the 2004 Pacifica
service manual page 19-24 through 19-26.
POLICY:
Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.
09-004-04 REV A -4-
B.

If you look, you'll find the culprit from the idler pulley noise is the 2004 water pump for the 3.5L. the pump was changed in late '04 for '05 model year Pacifica's, which don't make the "whining" noise.
There is a normal amount of alternator noise in my '05 (build date May '05), when the lights and fog lamps are on. Without lights though, you can't hear any whining noise at all.

When we went to buy a Pacifica (and swallow hard on that high price tag) we looked at '04's. Over half of the '04's exhibited the whining noise, and the salesman tried to explain it away. The 04's had around 15,000 miles on them with the noise..... our New '05 has 18,000 on it now, and still...no noise.

I would ask a dealer what the difference is and whether yours could be fitted with the newer water pump and idler pulley.

My wife and I love this car... our first new car in 16 years of driving Caravans, Voyagers, and T&C's. I admit it's no race car, but hell, I'm not 16 anymore, and the new charger has 4 doors, which is just wrong. the 300 looks like a matchbox car, so what else is a mopar nut to do?
A Pacifica, with all the goodies! :smokin: