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Good way to get more torque


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91maxbOi
10-03-2004, 01:29 AM
hi i was wondering what is a good way to get great lbs of torque.
thanx

MexSiR
10-03-2004, 05:03 PM
1 Turbocharging
2 Supercharging
3 Nitrous Oxide

All of those give you significant lbs/ft of torque.

An intake and bolt ons wont produce much

Ace$nyper
10-03-2004, 05:19 PM
stroke it cams hybrid the motor using bigger block

get a z28 if need be

crazy_canuck
10-03-2004, 06:43 PM
Depends on how much you want to spend and if you want to go NA.

And bolt ons yeild vary good hp gains contrary to what MexSiR says, torque gains too just not as much as the HP.

And a supercharger would be much better than a turbo if you want low-end power. The SC will give good low end gains, the turbo will give traction problems and it's much better for upgradeability and top-end power.

91maxbOi
10-03-2004, 06:53 PM
i was thinking of getting the new o5 type S and was wondering to do to get more lbs of torque. really dont want to spend much. and really dont want to go turbo or sc it. maybe later on but dont really have the money for it yet so.... what is the best way to get torque because the type s doesnt reallly have that much of torque.
thanx 4 the replies

crazy_canuck
10-03-2004, 07:06 PM
You're just going to have to use regular bolt ons that'll increase both the hp and tq, they're great for hp, not sure about torque.

I'd look at:
Injen CAI
Jackson Racing race header if you're going to get supercharged later
Hondata reflash or Hondata K-Pro
Motor mounts (make the car have more vibrations, however)

If you really are looking for a torquier car than a muscle car or a WRX might be better.

RSX-S777
10-03-2004, 07:28 PM
Yup...You want blazing torque (low-end, at least)- don't buy a Honda.

MexSiR
10-03-2004, 11:39 PM
A header, an intake, or an exhaust WONT gain you SIGNIFICANT torque gains. Period.

A Turbo will give you more torque in the low end section 2000-3500. Centrifugal superchargers make max torque close to redline or at it.

crazy_canuck
10-04-2004, 05:13 PM
Ahhh another B and D series engine entusiast.

See my sig.

Boltons have proved to give good gains and RSX turbos give high end power, the RSX s/c's give low end.

SwiftAddictions
10-12-2004, 04:49 PM
wow, this thread goes back and forth with no clear answer. but canuck seems to know his stuff.

crazy_canuck
10-12-2004, 05:21 PM
Thank you:D

And a summary is if you want low end power the Jackson Racing (or the soon to be released Comptech) supercharger would be best.

got v-tec?
10-21-2004, 04:59 AM
out of turbo,sc, and nitrous. the nitrous will give you the biggest tq gain in low rpm's but falls off quickly. sc is great for low to mid range and turbo is your best bet through mid to high

jmrev
10-22-2004, 01:21 PM
i heard a clutch will give you a bit more torque.

crazy_canuck
10-22-2004, 07:46 PM
Clutch will just help optimize the power you already have, and a clutch isn't really needed unless your stock one is slipping or if you've done a lot of mods.

jmrev
10-22-2004, 11:11 PM
but will it give you a bit more. a performance one of course.

crazy_canuck
10-23-2004, 12:02 AM
Yeah, but you'll notice a bigger benefit on a more powerful car.

Dr.Gonzo
10-25-2004, 02:02 AM
Why do you need more tq than what you get from basic bolt ons? The RSX being a pretty light car you shouldn't need that much tq to get you going plus the mid to high end power of the RSX should take over pretty easily to where you shouldn't need the tq. I don't know how much tq the stock axles, differential and other things of that matter can take on a RSX and if you have too much then you are looking at needing new stuff.

If you want something for good low end power I would go with the S/C. This is coming from a VW VR6 driver who has plenty of tq to spare and a nice amount of hp with just bolt ons but

I myself have raced some Hondas/Acuras that have beat me by about half a car length b/c they caught up to me in the top end. I guess what I was trying to say with that comment was that if you have enough tq to get you going decently and you have a lot better hp then it doesn't really matter. I could be wrong.

crazy_canuck
10-25-2004, 05:14 PM
Only talking from a straight-line perspective:

Depends on if you're racing from a roll or from a stop. Eg. A WRX will beat an RSX from a stop handily, an RSX will beat both an EVO and a WRX from a roll.

Dr.Gonzo
10-26-2004, 06:37 PM
Hmmmm do they make eaton super chargers for the RSX b/c if it's a vortec you don't get that low end pull like GTP's and Mercedes get b/c they are eatons and the ones I've seen for most cars sold are Vortecs. I could be wrong though. The Vortecs make a gradual boost the farther up you go in the rpm band.

crazy_canuck
10-26-2004, 07:35 PM
Yeah, the Jackson Racing SC and Comptech SC botgyh use an eaton blower, not a centifugal.

Thourun
10-28-2004, 08:39 PM
Some turbo cars get great low end torque, the VR4 gets all of its 315lb/ft at 2500. Whats the gearing like on the RSX? Whats the top theoretical speed?

SwiftAddictions
10-28-2004, 10:39 PM
theoretiacal??? that opens a lot of doors. Theoretically I could put enough money into and make it go 300

Thourun
10-28-2004, 11:07 PM
I mean what it's top gear and stock tires/wheels allow at redline, regardless of power.

rsxballa
10-30-2004, 01:33 AM
wait.. you think and rsx would overcome an evo from a roll?

crazy_canuck
10-30-2004, 10:17 AM
It can, given enough time and space the RSX will.

Thourun
10-30-2004, 05:25 PM
so whats the top speed?

SwiftAddictions
10-30-2004, 06:20 PM
hit the highway and find out.

Thourun
10-31-2004, 10:37 PM
That dosent help me..

SwiftAddictions
11-01-2004, 02:08 AM
so you want someone else to max out their sixth gear, then tell you?

Thourun
11-01-2004, 04:11 PM
I figured you people would know since you drive them.

Mendari
11-01-2004, 04:31 PM
... given enough time and space ...


E = MC^ 2

SwiftAddictions
11-01-2004, 05:28 PM
I figured you people would know since you drive them.

Understandable. It takes guts to max out sixth. I have never met anyone who has. You could talk to the acura dealership, I am sure at some point in time they did a test.

Thourun
11-01-2004, 05:33 PM
I personally have never done over 140, at that speed my moon roof starts to get sucked up and hisses madly even with the vents closed, which scares the hell outta me, plus when going that kind of speed you tend to loose all of the straight part of the highway your using or catch up to trafic ahead of you very quickly.

RSX04TS
11-01-2004, 05:39 PM
I have maxed out the rsx at 157 mph, it took a little on 6th gear but it pinned,
as far as the rsx beating the wrx and evo on a roll, it will, the wrx and evo arent' 1/4 mile cars they're both for rally racing.
it takes an evo 26.7 to hit 130
an rsx takes 26.3 to hit 120 from a standstill
but evo's and wrx's cut off at like 135 from what i've heard,
i have friends with and evo and a wrx,
Don't sleep on a rsx type-s they're quick, you only need to do cam work, full exhaust and a small turbo and your out

engineer
11-01-2004, 11:40 PM
oh yeah just add on a small turbo... yeah i think theres a pipe where u just screw it in and voila! boost. man u make it sound like converting an NA car to turbo is easy. yeah its easy when u take it to a shop n say "make this biatch turb" but if u were to do it urself its a huge job. only? even a small turbo plus all the other parts you will need and the work that costs heaps. what do u mean only??? thats just the most ridiculous thing i've heard for a while.

SwiftAddictions
11-01-2004, 11:44 PM
calm down engineer. yes it is a lot of work, and even small turbos arent cheap. And if you do not know what you are doing you will find yourself buying a new one real quick.

Sexy sig, by the way.

Thourun
11-02-2004, 12:42 AM
Who/what are you refering to Engineer?

crazy_canuck
11-02-2004, 07:36 PM
engineer is talking to RSX04TS.

RSX04TS - Actually kits from Cybernations are the best. If you're going NA exhaust isn't really needed as much as headers and intake.

Engineer - You're correct about costs. However, a Cybernations Stage 1 or GReddy turbo kit can be done by someone with some mechanical knowledge, and no real thinking is needed, just install. www.cybernationmotorsports.com

RSX-S777
11-02-2004, 09:44 PM
oh yeah just add on a small turbo... yeah i think theres a pipe where u just screw it in and voila! boost. man u make it sound like converting an NA car to turbo is easy. yeah its easy when u take it to a shop n say "make this biatch turb" but if u were to do it urself its a huge job. only? even a small turbo plus all the other parts you will need and the work that costs heaps. what do u mean only??? thats just the most ridiculous thing i've heard for a while.

No wonder I'm not getting any faster. I just glued the turbo on there with some macaroni and sparkles...

mason_RsX
11-02-2004, 10:55 PM
Really? I used elastics and dental floss to bolt my turbo on...the saved weight really gives me better times...

SwiftAddictions
11-03-2004, 02:43 AM
i got you all beat. I MADE my turbo out of a coke can a straw from mcdonalds and a little umbrella from a drink I had at a bar. Mine is held on with some gum my ex threw at me while I was working on it.

crazy_canuck
11-03-2004, 04:48 PM
Mason - Fishing line is stronger than dental floss, unless you get the waxed dental floss.

SwiftAddictions
11-03-2004, 04:57 PM
mmmmmmmmmm, waxed mint flavored

Mendari
11-03-2004, 05:37 PM
Sorry to bring this thread back on topic, but check out this
Game Boy ECU (http://www.turboxs.com/) .
It seems easy to hide instead of having a bunch of different computers that will attract thieves.

SwiftAddictions
11-03-2004, 06:05 PM
seems convenient, but how about ease of use?

crazy_canuck
11-03-2004, 07:00 PM
Pretty slick.

LiquidThinker
11-08-2004, 01:35 AM
Buy a nissan. Other than that there is going to be no way to make the rsx have gobs of torque, it is just not what honda does. Even their highest end race cars make all of their power way up high. If stop light racing is your thing dont plan to pull on me, but on the highway it would be a fun race.

SwiftAddictions
11-08-2004, 01:43 AM
I believe there is a honda accord that runs with your maxima buddy.

LiquidThinker
11-08-2004, 01:49 AM
Indeed a 2-DOOR accord v-6 can keep up fairly well with me on the highway but from a stop I pull on him and I think that accord isn't stock. Either way, I am not saying I am all that fast just that nissan does low end and honda does high end. Apples.....Oranges

SwiftAddictions
11-08-2004, 01:49 AM
oranges are better!

LiquidThinker
11-08-2004, 01:52 AM
whatever helps you sleep at night buddy

SwiftAddictions
11-08-2004, 01:54 AM
i don't sleep at night.

engineer
11-08-2004, 05:05 AM
i don't sleep at night.


ur sig tells a story :P

SwiftAddictions
11-08-2004, 12:08 PM
ha! made it myself, kinda bad looking, but only temp untill I figure out what o put in teh gaping hole of teh one I am making now.

PigPen5150
11-08-2004, 10:06 PM
As long as you don't mind voiding the warranty.
Hehehehehehehehe.

Dr.Gonzo
11-16-2004, 01:35 AM
Hey Max driver what mods have you done to your Maxima? You have the best generation Max 255hp and a 6spd to boot. The next gen the French got a hold of their design and it went to crap. Have you gotten an aftermarket Y pipe,exhaust,chip or CAI? I know there aren't a lot of mods for that car other than what I mentioned and a Stillen S/C. On the highway you would probably beat the Accord even if the limiter has been taken off. I think stock the 03 Accords speed limiter is like 125mph but the close gear ratio set up makes it pretty quick from a stop.

SwiftAddictions
11-16-2004, 02:28 AM
That maxima is stock, except the dumbass who owned it before him cut the springs to lower it, and it has neons on it. Which no longer work because going down teh highway a barrel fell off of a truck and hit the front of his car, shattering the front neon and cracking the bumber in half.

PigPen5150
11-17-2004, 09:27 PM
One of the techs at work has an '05 RSX-S, after he lowered it, he topped it out at 162 in sixth. He's a hell of a tech and knows his Honda tuning well.

No.1_Stunna
11-18-2004, 12:12 AM
I'm just waiting for the day I can convince my friend to let me take out his '04 Type S for a real test drive :grinyes: . My Accord maxes out at 115 with the restrictor...stupid governor... But I do believe his car will be much more fun... If I can get him to let me drive it out of the neighborhood that is :rolleyes:

RSX-S777
11-18-2004, 10:21 PM
One of the techs at work has an '05 RSX-S, after he lowered it, he topped it out at 162 in sixth. He's a hell of a tech and knows his Honda tuning well.

Where did he get it up to that speed?

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