why cant we get a cavalier model?

I understand that, maybe the 2nd gen cavy(1988-1994) isnt as popular as the third gen ence why it'll probably never see production in plastic form!

but what about the third gen(95-05) cavalier and sunfire, they are more popular than all those friggin afrosity of honda civic (ok the honda civic look is my opinion)
I think it would be fairly interesting to get an american (GM) sport compact in kit form,since we have the focus,civic,golf, integra and so on!

I want your opinions on this (maybe i could send a mail to amt or revell to have a cavalier made,what do we know maybe it'll work)!

i think that one reason the civic models are in production, is that a lot of them begain with japanese manufacturers, and they are a HUGE part of the japanese tuning culture, and im sure that once revell reallized the potential, they released their civic kits......the fast and the furious helped that along, im sure.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5917543677

You're right. Thank God someone made a model of that beautiful, performance ready car.

This is in the wrong section, by the way.

well you can put it in the right section

and btw im not talking about a chubby,not proportion wise good model,im talking about a "real" reproduction, like the other ones

dunno if you were joking about the performance part,but the 2.2 ecotec can easily reach 900 hp with GM parts

well, from what I understand, GM is a pain in the butt about getting licences to do there newer cars. plus, why would they do a kit of a car that is'nt going to be in production next year?, its been known for a couple years that the Cavalier would be killed off after 2004.

now, I would expect a kit of the CoBalt. seems like Chevy is marketing that car heavily to the younger crowd. and some nice kit of it would be great. helluva alot nicer car too

dunno if you were joking about the performance part,but the 2.2 ecotec can easily reach 900 hp with GM parts
:iceslolan :loser: a 900 horsepower Chevy Cavalier, I could see maybe 350 out of an Ecotech, but not 900, and from using GM performance parts. they'll be broken in 3 months anyway. as well as the rest of the car. The Cavalier has'nt been know for its great reliability,

i think what he means is GM made a 900hp ecotec.

hmm I really dunno but a friend of mine got dynoed at 450 hp(crank) on his ecotec

i think i will let my idea of having a cavalier model down the drain or i gotta make one out of resin!

Theres a simple reason there is no Cavalier model. It's not popular. Models are molded after cars that are known. Cavalier just doesn't cut it.

not popular,let's try, www.j-body.org
www.v6z24.com,www.clubcav.com and there are others i dont even know

not popular,let's try, www.j-body.org
www.v6z24.com,www.clubcav.com and there are others i dont even know

If you don't know them, how do you know that they are there? :wink:
Seriously though, I think part of the reason is just because of the fact that most of the model buying public would associate the Cavy with the words 'slow,' and 'econobox.' I'm not going to deny what you said about a 900hp Cavy (I would like to see it if you have a link; that would definitely be interesting) but most people don't really identify a Cavalier as a car to tune. You could argue the same about the Focus, but alas, Ford releases the SVT, and the RS in Europe; the Focus has a WRC race team, and is also universally recognizable. Plain and simple, the Cavy probably doesn't have enough tuning potential, or at least any that I can see, to really become a popular model for Revell.

Simply put is that the Cavaliers are not popular enough to make a model of. I'm sorry but count the number of Civics on the road to the number of Cavaliers and you'll be heavily outweighed.

the civic number on the road dereased by like 60% over the past 2 years

and what we see now are hooked up cavy and sunfire (well maybe it's just a canadian thing)

60%? I find that hard to believe; can you back that up with anything?

well, hooked up civic, they were everywhere and now,we dont see shit, they have some engine mods but no body kit or anything (nice body kit not some ugly hunk of fiberglass),there are some more rx7 and nsx than before same as sunfire and cavalier,same goes for the 80's supra and those 2 door honda accord but the civic declined from his king of the road title over here (talking about modified cars)

I still see 50 million civic's everywhere I go.

i personally am not interested in cavalier model. i don't know how many will do. :shrug:

GM isn't pushing Cavalier and Sunfire as performance-oriented vehicles. Naturally, they don't earn carismatic following like Civic or Integra. Also, GM is pushing its Cadillac division to the young and rich people, so the rest of their brands receive 2nd class treatment. Plus, 1/2 of people in the US are buying trucks, so cars in general are getting less popular. (how sad...) Naturally, we'll probably see more truck kits than car kits from Revell and AMT in the future.

Besides, are Cavalier and Sunfire really selling that well? Anyone checking the weekly newspaper on the US car industry (I forgot the name)?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5917543677

You're right. Thank God someone made a model of that beautiful, performance ready car.

This is in the wrong section, by the way.


Hah, that's awesome. I don't know what convinced Toyota to try selling rebadged Cavaliers in Japan, but hey, it resulted in a model Cav. And it'd be a wonderful world if those of us with crappy cars could build our own car in scale.

RARE Fujimi Toyota CAVALIER Gold Coating Version

--WTF!?--

Forgive me if I'm not up to date on what Toyota is selling in other countries, but since when did they make a Cavalier?

Just as for years and years GM sold Toyota Corollas under the Geo Prizm nameplate, Toyota sells Chevy Cavaliers under the Toyota Cavalier nameplate.

Toyota and GM have been in bed together since the mid-80's, figured you might have known that.

You know, I always thought it was kinda odd that the Geo Prism resembled the Corolla. Eh, just never thought about it. Thanks for the explanation Layla.

As an avid Honda lover, I will sit here and admit that yes, many Civics are not performance cars, and sadly, the newest generation isn't nearly as good at things Civics are traditionally good at. And I will be the first to admit to the little hamster squeaking his wheel under a Civic hood, the only time you get reasonable power from them is with an Si or greater swap. Other than that you're just dinking around. Power wise anyway.

But have you been down to the autocross track? The club racing courses? Have you heard of the Honda Challenge? What is that all about?

I have never seen a Cavalier, or a Sunfire down at the track. Ever. I've driven a Sunfire; it was the vaguest least confidence inspiring car I've ever taken around a corner. Neons handle better in my opinion.

I won't refute Honda's number one goal with the Civic - economy. Reliability just behind as a by product of Honda's able engineering. But Honda knows a few things about suspension geometry, they know this and that about weight distribution and even a teeny-weeny bit about building a stiff chassis to mount all the fancy hardware onto. Don't beleive me? Ask yourself - why do so many Hondas (Integras, Civics, Preludes) race? Nissans even? Toyotas? But where are these Cavaliers and Sunfires if they are so much better?

i dont really think there is autocross over here since ive never heard about it

but a thing i know is my cavy was suky with the stock suspension but now it handle as well as my frinend accord boths on eibach prokit

how many g's can it pull on a skidpad? I'll race you in my 17 year old bmw. my car pulls as many g's as an NSX.

The reason there is no Cavalier kit?

Because model companies are in business to make money.

Go to a hobby shop or Wal Mart, look at the kits for sale. Then imagine (and try really hard to be objective here) what reaction the Cavalier would have on potential kit buyers. It would get ignored, it would get mocked, and everything else on the shelf would sell faster. A car that's so popular because it's a dirt cheap appliance isn't exactly the dream in a box that are what makes a model car a good seller. There's a reason Hondas are popular for tuning vs. GM econoboxes. Go drive a new Cavalier and a new Civic. Go drive reasonably similar used versions. If you can't tell the difference, then you're not likely a car enthusiast. A basic Civic might be boring, but it's an engineering masterpiece compared to a Cavalier. If you're a breathing enthusiast, you'll immediately feel the difference in quality inside the car and during a drive. A Cavalier serves it's purpose as a low-price economy car. That's obviously enough for a lot of people. But inspiration for a model company? Ain't gonna happen.

I dunno, i would like a J-Body model, prefferably a Z24...

well, from what I understand, GM is a pain in the butt about getting licences to do there newer cars. plus, why would they do a kit of a car that is'nt going to be in production next year?, its been known for a couple years that the Cavalier would be killed off after 2004.
Revell released their 2002 Camaro SS 35TH Anniv. Ed. kit. Camaro production ended in 2002. lol


BTW...still waiting for someone to make a 94-95 Ford Thunderbird kit. Revell made an 89-92 SuperCoupe, but never a 94. (93 had 94 rear end with 93 front end..)..maybe some one can make a transkit (hint hint)

As stated, the Cavalier is not made in kit form because it's not popular. If you look long enough you'll find forums specific to any car,, popular or not. Model companies will make what the majority wants, and do their best to follow current styling trends. That's why we have many tuner-based kits, and now are getting trucks 'dub' style (i.e., Escalades, Expeditions, etc.)

Please giving me the appropriate GM part numbers that I may buy and build a 900 HP Ecotec motor. I'll build it and run it in the 2007 Anti-Rice Cannonball Rally. :grinno:

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But have you been down to the autocross track? The club racing courses? Have you heard of the Honda Challenge? What is that all about?

I have never seen a Cavalier, or a Sunfire down at the track. Ever. I've driven a Sunfire; it was the vaguest least confidence inspiring car I've ever taken around a corner. Neons handle better in my opinion...

I did !
I live near a racetrack (300meters) and I was a "flagger" in Solo1 (back then) and Yes there was somebody with a cavalier Z24 (not doing much). My friend had a Scirocco back then and the representant of the local GMC dealer convince him to try a Sunfire (GT?... the big sport pack (if we can call that)) so he did. On a 4 laps run, the car was so ruined that he told the guy to "bring his shit home"... the rear window had explode in a tight corner because of the torsion the body absorb. The nose was scratched for going diving in hard braking situation and banging the wall 2 times (not much but still) and he said red light was flashing all over the dash when turning hard. He took his old Scirocco back and never talk to the GMC dealer again... they weren't in great term after the few laps and most poeples were laughting about the poor j-body !!!

I admit (as a VDub fan) that his Scirocco was pretty wicked... the top of the car was the heigh of a Dodge Neon back wing (serie wing (spoiler or whatever))... have a photo to prove it.

yall can't say there is no CHevy Cavalier kits, there was one (well two, but its the same kit), MPC did an 82-83 Chevy Cavalier. full detail too. and Revell did a Pontiac J2000 dragster. but that all your gonna get kit wise for a Cavalier. The MPC kits not a bad kit. and could be picked up today for 15-20 bucks Mint in sealed box

Revell released their 2002 Camaro SS 35TH Anniv. Ed. kit. Camaro production ended in 2002. lol

But Revell already had a 98-2002 Camaro kit. all they had to do was modify it. If they wanted to do a Cavalier they would have to make it an all new kit

OK, being an "X" long time supporting factor in the j-body community, I have to remark. Yes, the Cavaliers are J-Bodied cars, along with the Sunfires and others various makes over the years. Cadillac even had a version of the Cavalier a long way back (bad idea!).

To get to the point, Cavaliers suck @$$!!! I had nothing but problems with mine and I also loved it too. Back in 98 I got a 99 Z24 because I wanted to be different than Civics all over town. 150 horsepower from 2.4 liters with a 155 lbs of torque. So, asside from V-Tec and being a heavy car, the Cavalier is faster and stronger.

Immediately I wanted an intake, exhaust, cams, headers, the usual suff like everyone else. Soon I found this site: http://www.j-body.org/. Good site, belonged to it for 6 years or so.

Over the years I saw AEM come along, RKSport, Jamex, and a few others starting to support the J-Body, but, it still sucked. After so many years of never getting what other cars were, I sold the thing. Looking back, yes, I could smoke even Type R's, and some 5.0 Stangs, but the market was never there. The Cavalier is an ugly behind the times car. Yes the Ecotec can run 900 HP but that is a complete drag car, not streetable.

Again, to get to the point, they suck!!! Ultimately, that is why there is 1 model out there and it is the Toyota Cavalier. Yup, Toyota had Chevy market the thing overseas?! Still, it sucks.

The cobalt is finally what Chevy should have done years ago!