Tyre help needed please!
A216PWU
10-01-2004, 12:05 PM
Hi!
I need some help on the tyre front.
The model is a Tamiya 1/24 Porsche 959 street.
The kit comes with Dunlop tyres; I want to swap these for Michelin Pilot Sport (Front 235/45R17";Rear 275/35R17") tyres. I need these tyres to be real street, rather than sanding and applying a decal.
Do you know how I can source these tyres that fit the 959 rims well?
Do you know of another kit I could buy just to nick the tyres! :smile:
Any help will be gratefully appreciated.
Cheers,
Matt,
England :bigthumb:
I need some help on the tyre front.
The model is a Tamiya 1/24 Porsche 959 street.
The kit comes with Dunlop tyres; I want to swap these for Michelin Pilot Sport (Front 235/45R17";Rear 275/35R17") tyres. I need these tyres to be real street, rather than sanding and applying a decal.
Do you know how I can source these tyres that fit the 959 rims well?
Do you know of another kit I could buy just to nick the tyres! :smile:
Any help will be gratefully appreciated.
Cheers,
Matt,
England :bigthumb:
Verminator
10-01-2004, 06:12 PM
Why so specific about the tyres?
willimo
10-01-2004, 06:17 PM
Why not? No clue, though, buddy. Don't worry about the size, exactly, rubber tires can easily be stretched to fit around rims that are "too big."
A216PWU
10-01-2004, 07:00 PM
Hi there!
willimo...ty for your advice. Much appreciated. This one's doing my head in!
Verminator...it's a custom build that requires specific mods to make it such...I feel the tyres play a large part in this...your input, and all others is very welcome,ty. :smile:
Please help me with the tyres :wink: !
Matt
willimo...ty for your advice. Much appreciated. This one's doing my head in!
Verminator...it's a custom build that requires specific mods to make it such...I feel the tyres play a large part in this...your input, and all others is very welcome,ty. :smile:
Please help me with the tyres :wink: !
Matt
hirofkd
10-02-2004, 12:51 AM
hmmm, this is a tough one, indeed. I don't know any Michelin Pilot for the street use. (the 911 GT1 has decals, but the tires are slick.)
I know that Revell USA's Viper and Diablo has Michelin, but it's XGT Z, the size is different, and the mold is very poor.
As a side note, the D40 in the kit was certified by Porsche, when the kit was licensed to Tamiya, so it's (half) accurate. Later, it was decided that 135 out of 250 cars were fitted with Bridgestone RE71 F:235/45VR17, R:255/40VR17. So, RE71 is also a correct brand. Michelin is probably compatible (and probably better because it's newer) with the D40 and RE71 tires.
Bridgestone obtained more than 20 new patents when they developed this tire, and it would have cost $20,000 per tire, if the development cost was passed onto the consumer. (i.e. Bridgestone didn't make any profit from this tire, but the technologies were later adapted to other Bridgestone tires.)
I know that Revell USA's Viper and Diablo has Michelin, but it's XGT Z, the size is different, and the mold is very poor.
As a side note, the D40 in the kit was certified by Porsche, when the kit was licensed to Tamiya, so it's (half) accurate. Later, it was decided that 135 out of 250 cars were fitted with Bridgestone RE71 F:235/45VR17, R:255/40VR17. So, RE71 is also a correct brand. Michelin is probably compatible (and probably better because it's newer) with the D40 and RE71 tires.
Bridgestone obtained more than 20 new patents when they developed this tire, and it would have cost $20,000 per tire, if the development cost was passed onto the consumer. (i.e. Bridgestone didn't make any profit from this tire, but the technologies were later adapted to other Bridgestone tires.)
tpliquid
10-02-2004, 03:20 AM
what abuot the nissan 350Z kit by tamiya?
A216PWU
10-02-2004, 07:32 AM
Hi!
Hiro...ty for posting...fascinating stuff. I'm building a bespoke item that requires Michelins, but I appreciate your thoroughness :smile:
Liq...seems like I have a bit of box bashing to do! Ty for the post.
Someone out there must have a model with 1/24 Michelin Pilot Sports :wink: Please post.
Matt
Hiro...ty for posting...fascinating stuff. I'm building a bespoke item that requires Michelins, but I appreciate your thoroughness :smile:
Liq...seems like I have a bit of box bashing to do! Ty for the post.
Someone out there must have a model with 1/24 Michelin Pilot Sports :wink: Please post.
Matt
freakray
10-02-2004, 10:54 AM
Matt,
This is the second forum I have seen you post this on, so you seem pretty determined to find these tires.
I hate to tell you this but not every tire produced is available in scale, as nice as it would be if it were.
Why don't you post a photo of the tire you're looking for so we can see the tread pattern and also give the sizes of the tires in the kit that you need to match.
And lastly, your request honestly belongs in the CLASSIFIEDS THREAD, that's what it's there for.
This is the second forum I have seen you post this on, so you seem pretty determined to find these tires.
I hate to tell you this but not every tire produced is available in scale, as nice as it would be if it were.
Why don't you post a photo of the tire you're looking for so we can see the tread pattern and also give the sizes of the tires in the kit that you need to match.
And lastly, your request honestly belongs in the CLASSIFIEDS THREAD, that's what it's there for.
A216PWU
10-02-2004, 04:15 PM
Hi Monkey Boy!
Thanks for your interest. Boy, you get around!
Here's that picture ...no tread pattern, I'm more interested in the sidewall..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/shaniafan37/Canepa9594_G.jpg
Thanks for all your advice, Monkey Boy, and please bear with all of us new-posters - we need your encouragement.
Matt :smile:
Thanks for your interest. Boy, you get around!
Here's that picture ...no tread pattern, I'm more interested in the sidewall..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/shaniafan37/Canepa9594_G.jpg
Thanks for all your advice, Monkey Boy, and please bear with all of us new-posters - we need your encouragement.
Matt :smile:
Kurzheck
10-02-2004, 10:32 PM
Nobody makes a Pilot sport in 1/24. Kurzheck
hirofkd
10-02-2004, 11:10 PM
> tpliquid
You're right. I have the kit on my desk, and totally slipped out of my mind. Tamiya's 350Z does have Michelin Pilot Sport.
The inner diameter of the Michelin in the 350Z kit is 20 mm, and, the front tire is mean to fit a 21 mm dia. and 12 mm wide wheel, while the rear tire goes with a 21 mm dia. and 13 mm wide wheel. The 959 wheels are probably wider, but those Michelins seem to be the most practical option.
You're right. I have the kit on my desk, and totally slipped out of my mind. Tamiya's 350Z does have Michelin Pilot Sport.
The inner diameter of the Michelin in the 350Z kit is 20 mm, and, the front tire is mean to fit a 21 mm dia. and 12 mm wide wheel, while the rear tire goes with a 21 mm dia. and 13 mm wide wheel. The 959 wheels are probably wider, but those Michelins seem to be the most practical option.
A216PWU
10-02-2004, 11:59 PM
Hi!
Thanks for posting all. :smile:
Looks like I'll have to become a 350Z owner! :smile:
Wheels will probably need rejigging to fit?
Matt :smile:
Thanks for posting all. :smile:
Looks like I'll have to become a 350Z owner! :smile:
Wheels will probably need rejigging to fit?
Matt :smile:
freakray
10-03-2004, 12:05 AM
Hi Monkey Boy!
Thanks for your interest. Boy, you get around!
Here's that picture ...no tread pattern, I'm more interested in the sidewall..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/shaniafan37/Canepa9594_G.jpg
Thanks for all your advice, Monkey Boy, and please bear with all of us new-posters - we need your encouragement.
Matt :smile:
My name is Ray, my screen name is freakray.
I gave you some friendly advice, you gave me disrespect.
My next piece of advice to you is to back up and re-evaluate how long you'd like to be a member here.
Thanks for your interest. Boy, you get around!
Here's that picture ...no tread pattern, I'm more interested in the sidewall..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/shaniafan37/Canepa9594_G.jpg
Thanks for all your advice, Monkey Boy, and please bear with all of us new-posters - we need your encouragement.
Matt :smile:
My name is Ray, my screen name is freakray.
I gave you some friendly advice, you gave me disrespect.
My next piece of advice to you is to back up and re-evaluate how long you'd like to be a member here.
hirofkd
10-03-2004, 01:32 AM
> Ray
You don't understand the meaning of this thread, do you?
1) This thread doesn't belong to the classified section, because it's nothing to do with buy, sell or trade. This is purely exchange of information, which will benefit other members.
2) The Michelin on the 959 has a special meaning, especially in the US. The 959 was only legalized in the US last year, and the US model has received mummeries upgrades, including the wheels and tires. The rear wheel was re-machined to fit the 275/35R17, as opposed to the 255/40R17 D40 or RE71 of the original 959, and for the accuracy's sake, you need the Michelin.
I, myself, is a tire fanatic, the brand and size issue play a major role in car modeling, so are many other picky modelers out there.
Also, if a certain threat seems to posted in a wrong forum, let the moderators do their job. That's what they are for.
You don't understand the meaning of this thread, do you?
1) This thread doesn't belong to the classified section, because it's nothing to do with buy, sell or trade. This is purely exchange of information, which will benefit other members.
2) The Michelin on the 959 has a special meaning, especially in the US. The 959 was only legalized in the US last year, and the US model has received mummeries upgrades, including the wheels and tires. The rear wheel was re-machined to fit the 275/35R17, as opposed to the 255/40R17 D40 or RE71 of the original 959, and for the accuracy's sake, you need the Michelin.
I, myself, is a tire fanatic, the brand and size issue play a major role in car modeling, so are many other picky modelers out there.
Also, if a certain threat seems to posted in a wrong forum, let the moderators do their job. That's what they are for.
A216PWU
10-03-2004, 09:11 AM
Hi! :smile:
You're exactly right, Hiro. I've always found this forum friendly and hugely informative. Advice and encouragement help all of us make better models, and sustain this community. And you're spot on about the tyre upgrade. Geeez, you know your tyres! :smile:
Thanks for the input,
Matt
You're exactly right, Hiro. I've always found this forum friendly and hugely informative. Advice and encouragement help all of us make better models, and sustain this community. And you're spot on about the tyre upgrade. Geeez, you know your tyres! :smile:
Thanks for the input,
Matt
freakray
10-03-2004, 12:07 PM
> Ray
You don't understand the meaning of this thread, do you?
1) This thread doesn't belong to the classified section, because it's nothing to do with buy, sell or trade. This is purely exchange of information, which will benefit other members.
While I will openly admit I misinterpreted the intent of this thread and apologise for that.
His reference to me as 'mokey boy' is nothing short of an ethnic slur and something which I find highly offensive.
I am certain you would not appreciate it if somebody made a comment to you which could, by all intents and purposes, be construed as a degrading term considering your ethnic background.
You don't understand the meaning of this thread, do you?
1) This thread doesn't belong to the classified section, because it's nothing to do with buy, sell or trade. This is purely exchange of information, which will benefit other members.
While I will openly admit I misinterpreted the intent of this thread and apologise for that.
His reference to me as 'mokey boy' is nothing short of an ethnic slur and something which I find highly offensive.
I am certain you would not appreciate it if somebody made a comment to you which could, by all intents and purposes, be construed as a degrading term considering your ethnic background.
A216PWU
10-03-2004, 01:20 PM
Hi :smile:
Hiro, just checked-out your website - awesome work.
Your paint-jobs are fantastic - what's the secret? :smile:
Matt
P.s. Just ordered the 350Z; what size rims are on the stock 350Z - 17"? :smile:
Hiro, just checked-out your website - awesome work.
Your paint-jobs are fantastic - what's the secret? :smile:
Matt
P.s. Just ordered the 350Z; what size rims are on the stock 350Z - 17"? :smile:
SchuberT
10-03-2004, 04:49 PM
His reference to me as 'mokey boy' is nothing short of an ethnic slur and something which I find highly offensive.
You *do* have a monkey in your avatar........
As for the 350Z rims:
The inner diameter of the Michelin in the 350Z kit is 20 mm, and, the front tire is mean to fit a 21 mm dia. and 12 mm wide wheel, while the rear tire goes with a 21 mm dia. and 13 mm wide wheel.
You *do* have a monkey in your avatar........
As for the 350Z rims:
The inner diameter of the Michelin in the 350Z kit is 20 mm, and, the front tire is mean to fit a 21 mm dia. and 12 mm wide wheel, while the rear tire goes with a 21 mm dia. and 13 mm wide wheel.
Porsche Carrera
10-03-2004, 08:27 PM
The closest one that I can think of is a set of 17" staggered Michelin MXX3 from the Tamiya '93 Toyota Supra TT. It's has the same effect as the 1:1 pic you posted. Hope this helps. As for the 350z tires, they are 18"s.
tpliquid
10-04-2004, 02:15 AM
A216PWU
10-04-2004, 03:18 AM
Hi! :)
Tyvm Carrera, Liq (again) :) , and Shube (nice Bowler!)
Liq...could you post a pic of the sidewall script please?
Ty guys...your help is really appreciated. :)
Matt
Tyvm Carrera, Liq (again) :) , and Shube (nice Bowler!)
Liq...could you post a pic of the sidewall script please?
Ty guys...your help is really appreciated. :)
Matt
tpliquid
10-04-2004, 01:50 PM
the sidewall script says michilin pilot. doesnt say size on it. i'll ge a pic soon
A216PWU
10-05-2004, 01:39 PM
Hi Liq,
Ty for your help...look forward to that pic,
Matt :smile:
Ty for your help...look forward to that pic,
Matt :smile:
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