Some Advice!!!!

Money being no object ... how would go about tuning a 05 RSX
wheels/suspension/exhaust/air intake/turbos....
where do i get started and where do i take it from there

also what parts should i look at?

If I were you and I wanted a street legal, daily driver Type-S with proven performance stats, I would probably use the HKS Type-S as a blueprint. But it's completely a matter of personal preference and expectation- this is just my PERSONAL preference. The HKS is an all around performer, not a straight dragster or boy-racer-stereo-showcase car.

The HKS has a Garrett based bb turbo, air-to-air intercooler, HKS F-CON V Pro, custom intake/exhaust, high-flow pump, upsized injectors, ACT clutch, Racing Harts, HKS Hipermax Damper II Coilovers and Brembos among other things- which they estimate will run you (total) about 20-22K.

I would figure out what you want your strengths to be, what you intend to do with your car and honestly how much you are willing to invest in a 4 cyl. Then do some serious research. Find other cars that have been successfully tuned and tested that approach what you are looking for and study what they've done.

well im looking for a machine that can handle street corners..but what is important to me is the hp gain that i can get out of the RSX...about 15k is what im looking to spend ...also i was looking around for suppension parts, who should i run to for this. and again in what order should i go about installing parts.

(this is about a 1 1/2 year long project ...time is no concern)

If you're getting a turbo you obviously can't get a Cold Air Intake, Exhaust, Headers or Hondata.

Tein, Zeal, K&W, Mugen and a few i'm forgetting are good suspension pieces. www.cybernationmotorsports.com for info on the turbos (I don't think they pass emissions test) but they're gonna be the best turbo kits out there. Looks wise, www.thersxsite.com to look at all body kits (the site isn't completed yet, however) and search www.clubrsx.com ( http://forums.clubrsx.com ) for info and reviews of various products. Rims wise Volk Racing, Blitz (The Technospeed's are my favourite rims), and Racing Harts are some of the best out there and some of the pricier ones too.

i have a cybernation stage 2 on order...but finding a good mechanic is like finding a good doctor...and being that am new to the game i dont who to go 2...any suggestions

Where do you live? Try the regional forums and ask what a good shop in your area is.

And remember, with the Stage 2 you'll probably need a new clutch soon, better tires, LSD (optional), and other pieces.

And remember, with the Stage 2 you'll probably need a new clutch soon, better tires, LSD (optional), and other pieces.[/QUOTE]

Im from New Orleans, and what do you mean other pieces... come on man dont leave me hangin.

I've never really heard of anyone investing so much to modify a car and not really having an idea of what parts were good quality/ what was needed. No insult...just seems odd. Are you just paying someone else to make your car fast or do you have an interest in cars?

no man...i just tryin to start some where u know...everybody starts out not knowing shit, but i just have some money to learn and tune at the same time

and while im on the whole learning things is good subject
y r more psi's better

also is the JR supercharger with boost pulley better than cybernation stage II

http://www.turbo-kits.com/how_turbos_work.html

More PSI (boost) means that the turbo or supercharger is compressing more air to go in the engine, which means more power (more fuel and air being combusted will get more power). Too much PSI however, can do damage to a stock engine. I'm not sure how much that would be though. www.clubrsx.com or a turbo forum would know more than myself.

As for JRSC Vs. CN Stage 2, I say Stage 2.

The JRSC is better for low end power, but it is limited to 12PSI (the turbo can go much more and get more power) and I believe 300whp was the highest achieved on the JR (don't quote me on that, just going by memory) and that had RSX had a lot more mods other than the supercharger. Plus, a supercharger has very little customizability.

The three RSX's that are the fastest street RSX's are all running turbos. There are currently 2 500+whp turbo RSXs, and there should be about 2 or 3 more coming soon.

The CN has a lot of modifiablity and customization. You'll get better top-end power vs. the JR, but the low-end is better on the JR.

Just because of the upgradeability of the Turbo, i'd go with the CN.



As for other pieces there's tires and clutch. I can't think of any otehr things but there might be.





Lastly, a great way to learn about cars is (if you have tools and your own garage or driveway) to buy a 100 dollar car and take it apart and learn about it (and do research to supplement it).

so how should i go about it...
rims & tires
turbo
exhaust
clutch
lsd

racing harts rims are nice as hell but damn theyre expensive

the CR's are nice

Yeah, Racing Hart, Work Emoition, Volk Racing and other Rays Engineering wheels, Blitz Racing, and some others are VERY expensive.

There are cheaper rims out there, just the weight might be different. For cheap but still fairly light Velox and ADR rims are great. If you're looking for performance only i'd get 16's or 17's, however, 18's look much better for a slight acceleration sacrifice.

Tires - I wouldn't know whats the best tires. ClubRSX would ahve more info on this.

Turbo - Cybernations, you choose how wild you want to go with the stage (1, 2, 3, or even 4 if you want a full time dragger).

Exhaust - not really sure. ClubRSX would be a better place to ask.

Clutch - Exedy is one of the best clutch companies, although there's a few others like ACT. Which one of the clutches you should get is up to you and different models have different lifespans, some are harder to use, etc.

LSD - Quaife and KAAZ are both good LSD's. As far as i've heard, stay away from the Phantom Grip LSD convertor.

Your best bet is to sign up on http://forums.clubrsx.com and search/post to get the most info on what you need.

And when I said exhaust, clutch, etc. there might be something missing....i'm going on memory here.

and also what is the best size rim 2 get for an RSX or does it really matter

17 is as big as you should go for performance but 18's look better. Its a bit of a tradeoff.

now just wondering because of course i am a newbie(forgive my ignorance)... why cant i have headers with a turbo. is space a problem or can u just no put both of those on the same engine. same question for cold air filters.

also are catback the best exhausts

About turbos, CAIs and headers, tran_nsx posted this a while back:

when a car is turbocharged, it does not use a cai, sri, or header. even, if u still somehow create a cai, it still be pointless, why?

because air being forced into the compressor side of the turbo causes the air to be compressed which it then heats up, whether the air is hot or cold. if u want colder air from a turbocharger, buy an intercooler, this distributes the heated air into smaller holes and is cool down by incoming air passing through the vents just like a radiator. still, this won't be cold air, but it will be cooler then the original temp before without the intercooler.

as for a header, it is replaced with a turbo manifold instead. whats the difference? a header (exhaust manifold) allows exhaust fumes to flow from the engine to the exhaust pipes. with a turbo manifold, exhaust flows out of the engine into the turbine side of the turbo, thus causing it to spin which spins the compressor side. after exiting the turbine, the fumes then goes out the pipes.

A catback exhaust just means that it is an exhaust that goes from catalytic covertor, all the way to the end of the exhaust (the tip). If i'm not mistaken there are also "racing exhausts" which eliminate the catalytic convertor (used for emissions) and go all the way to the tip.

So if you decide to not use a catalytic convertor, cops might get you if you have to do emissions testing and what not. I'm not sure if you can just use a regular exhaust system or what for the turbo however.....

well next question:
Cybernation provides you with an intercooler with the turbo kit, but will this be good enough or should i look into buying my own

and i was curious to know if a wider intercooler was neccessarily better than a not so wide 1

Its better, but is it necessary? I don't think so. Unless you're doing significant modifications and turning up the boost very high I see no reason to use an intercooler other than the one provided.

The "what the fuck" question of the day
What The Fuck is

-darton sleeve
also what is the difference between blowoff valves and wastegates. lastly what are downpipes for and rods and retainers

If you plan on running high boost you need to build up your internals. Meaning you need to replace the factory rod, pistons and sleeves with parts that are stronger. Forged rods and pistons should be at the top of that list. Darton sleeves are great. It's just a cylinder sleeve that is made stronger than the factory one.

About the intercooler, you want an intercooler that is taller than wider. It's simple math, you want more area to cool your charge. A more square shape has more area than a rectangular one.

I must say everyone posting to this thread is extreemly helpful, nice and understanding of newbies. keep up the good will and help guys, most people are mean and assholes to people who arent masters at this.

also I know its an ongoing problem and there are petitions, but is there any news of changes to the new model or fixing exsisting problems with the gear grind in the transmissions. many have said that a aftermarket short throw shifter will eliminate this problem but has anyone every done it or is it just an idea.

correct me if im wrong but short shifters are good for starting off the line right

I don't know if the new tranny is better for the grinding problems (and I guess it'll take a while to find out because most 05s have pretty low mileage right now and there aren't as many 05 owners as there are 02-04s) but when I sat in it it felt better than my 02.

Some people say short shifters reduce the amount of grind, others say it doesn't.

A short shifter won't make a difference when starting, but it will make a difference in terms of how long it takes to shift. You'll spend a little bit less time shifting and more time accelerating. It'll also make driving a bit more fun because shorter throws feel better. And the short shifters are pretty cheap. If I were getting one i'd wait for Comptech to release their short shifter.

Im reading things about engine swaps, and correct me if im wrong but is the k24 and TSX engine. and were do u find these engines to swap

Yup, the K24A is the TSX engine.

Some shops sell engines (you'll have to ask around regional forums though); a junkyard might have one; if someone blows their TSX engine, you can usually see if the dealer has the engine, buy it off of them and rebuild it; or you can buy it from the dealer (very expensive).

For more info on RSX swaps:
http://forums.clubrsx.com/forumdisplay.php?f=109

not that i have any interest in swaping but is it worth putting the money into buying and moding it or are u better off use all that money and putting it into the k20. and also would u mind giving me the low down on ECU...how they are used, how u can benifit, is it a do-it-yourself type deal, and who is the best in the ECU field

Swapping for a K20A (Type R motor)? Not really worth it, you can probably spend the cash on getting new internals with type r or better components.

ECU, you can reflash your ECU with Hondata (not sure if its compatible with supercharger, turbo or nos though), you can buy the Hondata K-Pro, but I think that's only compatible with supercharger or 12psi or less turbo (I might be wrong). The K-pro is plugged into your car, and when you want to tune you download the data from the car and put it onto your computer where you can edit a bunch of stuff yourself and tune your car yourself, or you can download pre-made setting off the internet. For the Cybernations turbo though i'd recommend the new one called Gaurdian. I don't know too much about it or if they released yet but check out here for more ECU info:
http://forums.clubrsx.com/forumdisplay.php?f=130

is the downloading and tuning yourself on the computer user friendly or is it technical. in others would a guy like me understand how to edit my ECU

I think so.

A little research on what does what will make it easier. I believe Hondata has an available DVD that teaches you how to use it.

have u heard anything about hondata's release dates on the 05' reflash

One report said this month, another said the next 3-4 months, another said 18-20 months!

So using that info I can say I don't know. Although I haven't really been following it that much, so I dunno if there were any new developements.

I was lookn at a few dyno charts on some sites here and there and the mods in most cars were fuel and oil pumps ... my question is who is the best. and do i need to change the stock oil pan(i really dont understand the use for it)

Sorry, I don't know.

17 is as big as you should go for performance but 18's look better. Its a bit of a tradeoff.
Yeah! Too bad the '05's already come with 17's. <crying>. :disappoin

Yeah, BURN THEM!!!!!!!!!! :D

does anyone know a site were i can find some fuel and oilo pumps