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oldgreaser
09-26-2004, 09:55 PM
Main symptom: It dies suddenly, often after trying to turn right.

I've acquired this 97 Grand Voyager from my ex-wife at an unbelievable price. Seems she and current hubby have spent thousands and haven't cured problems.

My ex paid to have it towed several times, and each time paid a couple of hundred extra for "system reset" by her local grease monkey. Not a dealer-trained mechanic.

Has 105,000 miles, good condition otherwise. I've driven it a couple of times without problems. Today, it died while climbing a steep gravel driveway way out in the country. It's there now, about half-way up my friend's half-mile long driveway.

Engine turns over, there is sound indicating fuel pump clicking in, but no spark. Instrument cluster lights all normal

Car is subject to recal repair of clockspring replacement, which hasn't been done, if the dealer agrees that the symptom indicate that's a problem. AirBag light lights up whenever you lower the tilt steering wheel, goes back off when steering wheel raised. Is this sympton enough for a dealer replacment for free under the recall?

More importantly, if I need to reset something tomorrow to get it started and back off that mountain, what do I pull, push, twist, turn, or bash to erase the codes that has it thinking the air bag has deployed?

Thanks.

mprtech
09-26-2004, 10:30 PM
The airbag light is due to the clockspring, which is the recall. I would highly doubt that is causing the nostart. I have seem hundreds of caravan's in need of a clockspring and not one of them had a nostart issue. The no spark could be alot of things, do you have a check engine light on when it does start? You could try to disconnect the battery for an hour or so and see if it will start. I have seen the coil driver circuit in the pcm fail from time to time. The fix would be a pcm. good luck.

oldgreaser
09-26-2004, 10:42 PM
The airbag light is due to the clockspring, which is the recall. I would highly doubt that is causing the nostart. I have seem hundreds of caravan's in need of a clockspring and not one of them had a nostart issue. The no spark could be alot of things, do you have a check engine light on when it does start? You could try to disconnect the battery for an hour or so and see if it will start. I have seen the coil driver circuit in the pcm fail from time to time. The fix would be a pcm. good luck.

Like I said, lights are all normal EXCEPT that the Airbag light is triggered when you lower the steering wheel. This is not a no-start issue, this is a stopped running issue. This is an intermittent stop-running issue that, as I said, seems to happen most often during right turns.

Chrysler-Daimler says they've never heard of this, but trust them?

If the BCM or any other unit thinks the airbag has been deployed because of screwy design and short-circuiting, then would not those systems also shut down spark as well as fuel?

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