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Noob in modelling (Subaru WRC 2002)


wm15
09-26-2004, 10:51 PM
First of all, just wanted to say hi to all of you here.. I'm new here but been reading around this thread for a few weeks now..
I'm a noob in modelling..just bought a Subaru WRC 2002 kit from Tamiya(yes, im a subaru lover) and now all that I have with me is the basic tools..except for paints.. because I wanted to consult other experienced members here first..
The manual stated too many colors to use.. If I follow exactly the colors according to the manual, my wallet won't be able to afford it..
So all I wanted to ask is how can i make a nice looking model, detailed, yet less costly? Using some other paints or markers perhaps?
I would greatly appreciate it if someone here would enlighten me.

Turbo Monster
09-26-2004, 11:03 PM
3 WORDS!!

READ THE FAQ!!

look at the top of the forum thread page... read the faq. and learn to speak proper english. This stupid internet lingo crap is really getting old! :screwy: :loser:

SchuberT
09-26-2004, 11:24 PM
Well, to answer the question, it'd help to know things like... whether or not you'll be displaying the chassis, or where you're trying to buy your paint...

First of all, you can save yourself some money by just painting the whole chassis black, and not displaying it. Instead, just detail the interior.

OR, you could seek out other places to buy your paints... and possibly try to find them in smaller amounts.

carlisimo
09-26-2004, 11:45 PM
His writing seemed fine, and he didn't ask a question that the FAQ covers. I swear some people here have preprogrammed responses to anything a noob might say, in more words than a helpful answer would take.

Anyway, it's probably impossible to spend less on paints and tools than on the models themselves. But you might want to start by buying American-brand model kits (Revell, AMT, etc) because they're cheaper and your first models won't be your best anyway.
You can only mix paints if you airbrush them or use them on small areas (in which case you can hand-brush). You can also just buy one version of colors(e.g. any one black as opposed to flat, semi-gloss, and gloss black) and use clear overcoats to make them flat or gloss. Only saves you money if you do it for several colors though.
Try markers instead of clear paints for the lights. I have no idea what'll work best. But basically there isn't much you can do without sacrifices in quality. Not that you'll get a perfect model with lots of paints but no experience... just take it slow and build up your inventory.

willimo
09-27-2004, 12:05 AM
That's exactly right. Get a black, a silver, a red.... since it's your first model, feel free to even take some liberties with different colors. Paint gray things black or something. It won't be 100% to the real car, but it will look detailed nonetheless. The way to get tools and paints is to get a couple paints and a tool or two with each model.... and get the things that you over and over think "Gee, I really could use..." Build your tool set and palette slowly.

RallyRaider
09-27-2004, 02:04 AM
Whilst Turbo Monster could have phrased it a little more tactfully this is precisely the type of post we are trying to improve upon. I found it quite difficult to read and that does nobody any good. So welcome to AF wm15, but please take the time to write clearer next time. After all if you are asking for help, you want to be understood right?

To you question: It depends how realistic you want to make it. You will have to look through the instructions and decide what cost cuts you can make. For the Subaru WRC, aside from the metallic blue for the body/chassis, I'd imagine you could make do with matt black, white and silver. You can mix the black and white for shades of grey. For coloured details you could paint them white then colour them with a permanent marker, should work okay for very small parts.

Tikiman
09-27-2004, 03:49 AM
Turbo Monster? Are you a bit stupid or something? Or are you not English? I am English and this guy made perfect sense to me.
You seem to do alot of bad mouthing aswell Rallyraider, and you seem to be under the impression you are an admin or something. If you see a post you don't like just ignore it instead of trying to put people down.

RallyRaider
09-27-2004, 05:21 AM
You seem to do alot of bad mouthing aswell Rallyraider, and you seem to be under the impression you are an admin or something.

:lol: Hmm... Tikiman, do I really give that impression?

I don't think anything I wrote was bad mouthing (such as calling people "a bit stupid" :rolleyes:). The info in wm15's profile (and post) is kind of contradictory so I'm not sure how well he speaks/writes English. At any rate we have asked people on AF to improve their communication, is that too much to expect?

So, Tikiman, now that you've given your lecture, how about coming down off your particular high horse and answering wm15's original question. That is what this thread is all about afterall, we better not wonder too far off topic or an "an admin or something" might have to lock it :eek:

Tikiman
09-27-2004, 05:35 AM
LOL. Yeah i did stray off the point abit didn't I? Ok, i would say that the paints to get would be Humbrol enamels if possible. Flat black, silver and a colour for the body i suppose. I suppose it all depends on just how short of cash you are. Although i would say AVOID BRUSH PAINTING BODYWORK if possible. Also i would say that you can always mix colurs, making it less expensive. Yellow+blue=green, for example.

sjelic
09-27-2004, 07:50 AM
and about body colour, Tamiya makes decent body that will look OK even if you don't aply colour at all. So just put the decals on body and give it a few coats of clear (car clear in spray isn't that expencive). Affter clear coat just paint window rims in black and it will look OK, not perfect but OK. As other said crutial paints are black (I would recomand semi gloss one), white (also semi gloss), silver (or chrom). All other colours you can aply as Phil (Rallyrider) said whit and then with marker over it. Good luck with it. And about writing I only don't like when poeple are using one letter for whole word. You can obviusly see that I am not English but I realy try to write so that everyone can understand me, for examle not everyone knows that u is you or bcos. But I like to see diferent aspects so this doesn't bother me to much (I did understand everything :))

freakray
09-27-2004, 08:58 AM
You seem to do alot of bad mouthing aswell Rallyraider, and you seem to be under the impression you are an admin or something.

He probably got that impression from the fact that he is.....

wm15
09-27-2004, 11:25 AM
Wow.. I certainly didn't expect this thread to be like that.. to those who can't understand what I'm trying to say, sorry for that because I've been typing this way for all other forums that I've been active on and been understood pretty clearly.. I have edited the post.

Anyway, most of you here have been helpful.. I think now I have a rough idea on how to work on the model..
This is a rough idea of the colours i would get, need some advice on this still:
1. Mica blue spray
2. Black (semi gloss?)
3. White
4. Silver
5. Clear coat
6. Primer? white?

Tikiman
09-27-2004, 11:31 AM
He probably got that impression from the fact that he is.....

It didn't say anything under his name when i wrote that. OK?

freakray
09-27-2004, 11:41 AM
It didn't say anything under his name when i wrote that. OK?

Actually, I think it said 'Peugalist' or something to that effect :p

Global Moderators have the ability to change the text below their names, but their stars below their names will always be a full row of gold stars.

End of off-topic discussion.

carlisimo
09-27-2004, 02:53 PM
I've seen some people get by without primer. Whether you use it or not, wash the car with detergent, especially if you forgo the primer.

StephenDeli
09-27-2004, 04:36 PM
The list of paints you said there will get you by with a decent model. As for the ones you put question marks by, you will need semigloss and primer is debatable. I would say you dont need it though. Hope this helps!

Asmenoth
09-27-2004, 08:07 PM
That's a good list. Remember this, on the next kit's list or paint, you won't have to buy all of the colors on the list, you will have them. The first kit or two are the most expensive...supplies wise. After that, you won't have to buy as much paint and glue. Unless you decide to do some body work or add after market parts and still need to save money, you can hold off on the primer as well. But you will need to get some at some point.

:biggrin:

sjelic
09-28-2004, 02:46 AM
The list looks OK, go for semigloss for white also because if you use only plain brush gloss white won't lay down good. Matt white is to matt and it doesn't look good on car. Semi gloss is the best for white and black at least from my point of view. As for the primer it is a bit more expencive but you can always buy cheaper automotive plastic primer (just don't buy clear one because it sucks big time).

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