Street Brawl with Old Camaro

i hit the streets last night looking for some action so i ran my usual course which took me around my local mall. The first few rounds i saw nothing but on the 3rd pass i saw this nice looking 86-89 Camaro pull out of a parking garage. Being the nice guy Iam, i allowed him to pull infront me so i could see if it was the fabled I-ROC. I didnt see any badges or decals suggesting it had the 350 CI W-8. Knowing it would be an easy kill i pulled beside him at the stoplight and asked what he had under the hood. He told me it still had the stock 302CI whcih was good for 150-160HP. I snuffled a laugh and asked him if he wanted to. He took a long look at my car and grinned as the light turned green. He caught me by surprise as he smoked his rear wheels and took off. I caught up to him and rode his ass until he sped up more. With all 3 lanes clogged up with traffic i followed him onto RT.3 where we could have some fighting room. Luckily i caught an open lane where i passed him. He did the same as he cut over 2 lanes to the fast lane and we proceded to play cat and mouse.

I decided i had enough and upped the boost to max 12.6. I eventually got a good 4-5 car lengths ahead of him and we both took exit 6 and pulled over. He got out and popped the hood where saw a new Edelbrock Carbeurater and a March Ram air system.

so wait it was a 350 after all?

No it was the Base 302 CI(5.0)

Burnt do you have alot of money? I mean it seems like only days ago your were wanting a turbo, now you have purchased, installed, tuned, and raced with a turbo. Very Interesting.

He obviously didn't know what he was talking about, he has a 305. Which has 170hp.....still slow but how can he not know what motor he has??

Maybe you didnt read my reply and realize this is probally bs.

lets just say i got a good paying job as well as $$SS in the bank from my family jewels????. And yes the guy had a 305 cubic inch V8 rated at 170HP.According to my resourses the Edelbrock Carb he had in gave it a 10% increase in HP

2001 Toyota ECHO
205HP@5000 RPM
170-190 foot pounds of raw torque
Custom TRD Low-inertia Turbocharger boosting max 12.6 PSI probaly going to blow up anytime now ( i live dangerously)
custom fitted GReddy Intercooler from MR2
Weapon R Cold Air intake


Where in the world did you get that TRD Turbo? afaik, TRD never even made a turbo for the echo. How are you pushing 12.6psi on stock internals? Running that much boost on a stock echo motor would blow it within seconds. How did you even get the Greddy 3sgte intercooler to work with your motor? Its not even a FMIC. It sits on top of the motor, and even if you modded it, you'd need a custom hood to even use it half effectively. How are you using a CAI if the IC is on top? theres no room for the CAI to route down away from the heat of the engine. And where in the world did you get a Weapon R CAI? Weapon R only makes SRI. And at what RPM are you getting that many lbs/ft at?

One Word.

OWNED!!!!

:owned:

Where in the world did you get that TRD Turbo? afaik, TRD never even made a turbo for the echo. How are you pushing 12.6psi on stock internals? Running that much boost on a stock echo motor would blow it within seconds. How did you even get the Greddy 3sgte intercooler to work with your motor? Its not even a FMIC. It sits on top of the motor, and even if you modded it, you'd need a custom hood to even use it half effectively. How are you using a CAI if the IC is on top? theres no room for the CAI to route down away from the heat of the engine. And where in the world did you get a Weapon R CAI? Weapon R only makes SRI. And at what RPM are you getting that many lbs/ft at?
He went above and beyond my simple this is bullshit. Which however, it is. we should just drop it and ignore this kid and his "bank account of family jewels".
Hopefully you'll see ban land, First you go into our stang forums telling people u bought a 6banger, it is slow and clunky, so you are going to put a 1.4L Honda in it (i belive that was size). Hmmm that wasnt going to start a flame. Now you sold it for an echo, which is fully modded in what 3 f***ing days? I dont believe you, the others in here dont believe you, and no one likes you. Time to leave AF and get a life, let the rest of us here have mature converstations.











Bitch!

daaaaammnn...

yeah, pwned , hard

i thought a couple days ago his sig said 160hp.
maybe that was before he put that Type R sticker on.

I didnt see any badges or decals suggesting it had the 350 CI W-8.


Wait... It was a Volkswagon Camaro. Cause Chevy never made a 'W-8'.


They made a V8. Volkswagon makes the W-8.



:wtf:

Wait... It was a Volkswagon Camaro. Cause Chevy never made a 'W-8'.


They made a V8. Volkswagon makes the W-8.



:wtf:


Hahaha

Man, the vultures are circling.

I'm sorry Burntrice087, but you need to prove yourself now because tese stories are great and all, but boosting up to 12 psi on a nonbuilt motor? Come on now....we're no fools.

Take a picture of your Echo with the hood popped open, and next to your Weapon R CAI, you needs to have a sign saying "Burntrice087 Pwnz j00!" Until then, I join the doubters and raise the bs flag.

:bs:

whoa that's seriously owned there bro... unless you do what the new guy says... i gotta stand beside him with the BS flag...

and still no reply. that doesn't surprise me.

How did you even get the Greddy 3sgte intercooler to work with your motor? Its not even a FMIC. It sits on top of the motor,
Actually it does not sit on top of the motor.
It sits inside the side vent on the passenger side ... see my engine bay pic:
http://www.jekylhyderacing.com/images/hyde_Engine1.jpg

holy crap! mistook it for a 4agze intercooler :banghead:

aight....you want pics....i will give you pics...just tell me how to upload them

i know the first step is to find a host site but thats it

http://imageshack.us/index3.php

upload them there

too put them in page view just copy the url here or

I'm the URL hear me roar!

:)

aight....you want pics....i will give you pics...just tell me how to upload them

i know the first step is to find a host site but thats it

Oh boy I cant wait. Especially because im good at photoshop, so ill highlight every little change.

I want a dyno chart too

If he proves us wrong. I will say that he pwnzed me in my sig.

I want a dyno chart too

If he proves us wrong. I will say that he pwnzed me in my sig.
I'll follow suit. This must be one very trick setup.

Burntrice087: You can e-mail me the pics and I'll get them hosted. It's godsoulja@hotmail.com

Guys dont work a sweat....

yeah i really cant see 12.6PSI on stock internals. Most 4 banger internals are only good to about 7-8PSI anything after that and it would blow really quickly.

yeah i really cant see 12.6PSI on stock internals. Most 4 banger internals are only good to about 7-8PSI anything after that and it would blow really quickly.
That's odd ... I am running 23-25 psi of boost on a 4-banger with a 199,425 miles on it?

*scratches head*

was your engine factory boosted?

Yes. ... and?

well i always thought cars that came boosted would have stronger engines that were not boosted from the factory. Just to make the car a little more reliable. If im wrong fine, but thats just what i thought. If im wrong ok.

It's not so much that the internals are better/stronger ... it's that OEM boosted cars generally have lower compression.

The risk in boosting non-boosted engines is that they have higher compression.

so on a non factory boosted car without any internal mods, whats the max PSI you could run safely? Just a general amount and i know all engines are different and can handle boost differently. But lets just say the average econobox 4 banger.

Hehe i can tell someone wants to up his boost.

I have no expereince boosting an originally unboosted car.

I would suspect that if you had proper intercoolering, water injectio and proper tuning you could probably get away with a fair amount of boost :)

... people in th MR2 community seem to have had some luck boosting 5-7 psi on the non-turbo MR2s.
The NA MR2 engine is very weak though and I have heard of a number of them going boom from being boosted.

A guy on www.echodrivers.com safely runs 10psi on his turbo'd echo with stock internals. I am going to go with BS too. He doesn't even know the weight or stock power of his car.

the honda b18b can run up to 12 psi of boost with stock internals, just as long as you upgrade all the fuel management systems (fpr, new injectors, fuel rail.. stuff like that) and airflow aspects (intake exhaust).. so in other words, the only thing that's going to be stock is the block/head.... but it's still 12 psi on stock internals:p

Alright guys, Took about a dozen or so "up-close and personal" shots of my ride today and now i got to load them up soon...They will be up by Friday by the least...


Thanks for the host offer..i will email you as soon as i get the pics onto my computer

by Friday by the least...
and never by the max?

I also agree that dyno charts would be great to witness. I also join in with the "burntrice087 owns me" in my sig if the pictures prove correct.

I love how you changed your sig again. cant wait to see the pics.

yeah and he mysteriously regained his V6 mustang.

lol so his turbo has turned into a supercharger and his sold V6 mustang is now his again? LMAO what a doushe bag!

turbo....supercharger....

gee, some typo that is. They don't even have the same amount of characters. hell, the only common characters they share are "u" and "r"

Dynojet corrected eh? :rolleyes:

wow...pretty sketchy, dude. I like how as soon as signal748 said there was no TRD turbo for the echo, your sig suddenly said it was a blower.

I'm actually REAL curious about this too. Post pics man. innocent until proven guilty, right?

Either way he's screwed, really.

TRD never made a supercharger for the echo either. :grinno:

ouch... :licka:

I decided i had enough and upped the boost to max 12.6.

Custom TRD Low-inertia Supercharger boosting max 12.6 PSI

How are you regulating the boost pressure on-the-fly with a supercharger? Just curious.

i dont get people like this, why tell people lies to try and make yourself look good. I would have respected this guy if he had a geo metro. But just to tell lies so that people respect you seems really stupid, cause eventually were gonna find out and make you look like an ass. Im going into law enforcement and one thing my teacher tells me (a former detroit detective) is that, for everyone 1 lie you tell, you must tell 10 more to cover it up. And no lie is full proof. And once 1 lie is discovered all the other ones will fall like a house of cards.

I dont think we will see this guy anymore, but their will prolly be another new guy coming here in the next month or so that sounds alot like him.

OMG

MAN...I swear my radar was going-off on this guy, and I IGNORED IT.

Mostly because everybody seemed to get along with him.

Ugh. Missed another good one.

don't worry. there will always be more :evillol:

Wow.....all I can say is wow...I know I'm new, but I also know BS when I see it....its Friday homey, where are the pics? Oh.....maybe you meant Friday 4 months from now?


.....I can't believe this guy's nerve....

Either way he's screwed, really.

TRD never made a supercharger for the echo either. :grinno:

they made one for the scion xB, though. And I believe that's the same 1.5L I4.
I don't think it's in production yet though, so dont assume anything.
btw its friday, i want PICS

]btw its friday, i want PICS
Time is ticking :P

they made one for the scion xB, though. And I believe that's the same 1.5L I4.

yup. same motor. Funny thing is, he's probably gonna update his sig saying that he took the supercharger from the xB. (which i also believe is not in production yet, either)

BTW: I have webspace, so i can host the pictures for him, if need be. So no excuses.

Guess what it's saturday.... I'm betting he's leavingthe forum.

This is a supercharger for the echo made by TRD. Although, it is under the Europe TRD name of TTE. If you have connections, I bet you could get one in North America. I highly doubt this guy has one though.

Here is an even better idea, everyone ignore this thread, everyone ignore this idiot.

Hint Mods: Lock and Ban....he has had his warnings.

okay since we're on the camaro story kick i'll tell ya'll about my very first race ever....just because i can and want to...

Okay so i had saved up all summer to get myself a Z28 (this was in 1999) and finally after all the hard work in the fields i got one. The very first day that i got it i was driving home from a vike's game (which we won thank you very much...go vikes!!) and a young asian dude in a an Acura Integra Type R, was pacing me for about 5 minutes on the highway. And seeing that this was a lengendary import car that has been know to surprise alot of V8's i thought what the hell.....
So, i kept an even speed of 70 mph and looked over at him, and held up three fingers and pointed to my horn....he noded....so i give him the first honk, and then the second, and finally with excitement i hit the third beep. And we were off, he had gotten about half a car length on me at about 95mph and then at about 100mph I finally started to pull him in...once we got up to 120 i was ahead by about 2 and half car lengths and he shut down and took a ramp.....oh man, good times, it was the most exciting thing i had done all year!! haha

and this pertains to this subject how?

it doesn't:smile: