d15b1 vs d15b8 w/mods?

my friend has a 90 civic std dpfi 4 spd d15b1 stock w/ac (showing code 16,fuel injector),with just a cone on the throttle body,we looked at the specs for the d15b1 & it shows 70 hp,

I have a 90 civic dx dpfi 5 spd d15b8 (swapped) & the d15b8's showing 70 hp,on some sites 72...
anywayz I have headers,intake,exhaust,straight pipe,running synthetic oil,k&n oil filter,advanced timing,no front bumper(metal),removed AC,(all of it),no codes showing,hood scoop(active),fender wells out...
& maybe some of the stuff dont help,but its more then what hes got,
& he still seems to beat me?
we've raced 3 times before & hes beat me,in november were going to the tracks to race,
so hopefully I have a little bit more mods done by then,
I'm planning on getting a new head & was wondering if that would do the trick?(16 valve head,even the 92 hp dx..)
I know how to shift,Ive had the car 3 years,new excedy clutch,new engine & hes had the car 3 months,

but we think because he has the 4 spd is why he beats me(why im shifting hes still taking 1st gear),but I always thought 5 spds was faster through gearing,
but is there a reason why hes beating me? :banghead:

get mpfi and get yourself under the 20 sec. mark

get mpfi and get yourself under the 20 sec. mark

19.3,last month at the track...I was running 20.5 with stock headers & cat...

he says he runs 19.1 at the track a while back...

i dunno man, dont get all mad or somethin when i say this but stop dumping money into that pos motor and save up for a swap. your not going to get much faster than that in the first place with dpfi.

I know,I here that all the time,
I was just going to put air bags on my car,try too,this income tax
so I wasnt all wanting to get a new motor,because my motor now has 66k on it,it a good running motor,
so I was just going to do little mods now & go for looks
(wide body kit/airbags)
untill I actually got the money for a new motor
but at least put a new head on it,bigger cam,lightweight flywheel/pulley,high ohm altenator,msd....
every now & then...

maybe later on put in a dohc vtec with all the works :iceslolan

but we just couldnt find out why he was beating me,we have practicly the same motor,but one a little more mods...

god that must be like watching lawnmowers race (and not the fast ones).

I have a MPFI setup for sale, just needs dizzy and ecu. Its in the classifieds. Throw that on and you'll beat him.

I have a MPFI setup for sale, just needs dizzy and ecu.

I have the mpfi setup with distributor,fuel rail,I just never put it on when I installed the motor,(I didnt have the right wiring harness to plug & play,so I didnt know nothing about it at the time..)
but the ecu it came with was the pm9,
thats the one I have in my car now,it makes me tach up to 6200,
but my stock ecu,pm5 makes me tach out at 5000,
I just never messed with it,but I'm getting it back from a friend I gave it too,he dont want it no more,(he plans on dropping an accord motor in it)
so maybe if I install that by the info I found:

http://www.fourthgenhatch.com/mpfi.html

it should work,but I'm a little worried about cutting my harness wires,
I think I'ma go for it & try to put it on before the next race,

and why wait till november to race?

and why wait till november to race?

we do it on the track mpdragway.com,
Ive lost my licsense racing on the street & gotem back for a high price,so I dont do it on the street :biggrin:
its nov 7th,Car Wars,my brother,friends & "I",all go out there & race,
so it'll give us all a good time to fix what we need to fix up before we run'em again,

I didnt mean street race, where I live we have a track about 30 minutes from here, have heads up/tuning friday and bracket saturday. costs $20 to run as many times as you can on fridays, and on saturdays I think its like $30 and you still in till you get eliminated.

I didnt mean street race, where I live we have a track about 30 minutes from here, have heads up/tuning friday and bracket saturday. costs $20 to run as many times as you can on fridays, and on saturdays I think its like $30 and you still in till you get eliminated.

exactly the same price of where I go to,
except its like 45 mins away from me,

unless ur friend is gettin an F20b or an F23 tell him not to get an accord engine. Tell him to get a B16, its alot easier to mod and way better.

I didnt mean street race, where I live we have a track about 30 minutes from here, have heads up/tuning friday and bracket saturday. costs $20 to run as many times as you can on fridays, and on saturdays I think its like $30 and you still in till you get eliminated.
Damn, its $10 to race all day on wednesday here. Such a nice track too.

Lawnmower racing :lol: ILMAO. I actually tell people that's what I have under the hood is a lawnmower engine. There like, GOD, your car must be slow as anything! THen they say, wanna race my dads snapper? :lol:

yeah.... that never accually happened did it? Its ok we all play make believe sometimes...

I don't think it will happen in a long time. But if I ever see the kid mowing grass in the neighbor hood, I just pull over and rev like crazy on his snapper. Then we'll see who has the better lawnmower engine.