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hydro vs cable tranny????


hondatool
02-13-2002, 02:43 AM
hey...whats the difference??,.,.,is it a different pedal feel on the clutch?????...is there a performance differece???...what cars have what???....i have no idea so any help would be great..thanks!!

sparq
02-13-2002, 03:36 AM
5th gen D-series tranny wont bolt upto a 4th gen D-series motor :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Wow j00 guYz r EedIotz :finger:
(and no im not referring to the original poster...)

j.fuggi
02-13-2002, 07:54 AM
what does the s2000 have?
what about the 5gen civic?

just wondering about something i liked when i was shifting the s2000. that amazing clank when you slam a gear!! w00ot!~$# i want that womans s2000!! (my friends mom)

CivSiGuy
02-13-2002, 09:48 AM
http://www.howstuffworks.com/clutch2.htm

about midway down this page you will see that the cable and hydro are what engages the clutch.

Hydraulics are longer lasting and more solid than a cable. Cables can stretch and lose efficiency over time.

S2000's have hydraulic

5th gens are cable if I remember correctly

Xplocivic
02-13-2002, 10:30 AM
5th gens are Hydro.

Rice-Rocketeer
02-13-2002, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by CivSiGuy
5th gens are cable if I remember correctly

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

He didn't :(

Xplocivic
02-13-2002, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by Rice-Rocketeer


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

He didn't :(
He sho as hell did! :) That will be 5 hail mary's and a slap on the knuckles! :D

DRxCIVIC
02-14-2002, 10:43 PM
hahah yall crazy

CivSiGuy
02-15-2002, 01:42 AM
muh bad peeps :o

civicoupex
05-06-2003, 10:54 PM
hey anyone know if you can put a hyro clutch trans on a engine uses a cable clutch? And i have a problem and i have a civic with hydro clutch and the engine i want to put in the car uses a cable clutch?

markpa
05-06-2003, 11:07 PM
no, if the engines uses cable then you need cable and vice versa.

B16EJ1
05-06-2003, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by markpa
no, if the engines uses cable then you need cable and vice versa.

Wrong. You can just swap the tranny. The problem lies if you're trying to use the cable tranny in a hydro chassis. They make cable to hydro conversion kit's though. ( not recommended )

markpa
05-06-2003, 11:14 PM
how am i wrong, thats exactly what i said,

markpa
05-06-2003, 11:16 PM
if the engine is cable then you need a cable tranny, if the engine is hydro you need a hydro tranny, do you understand that B16EJ1
, i know your kinda slow.:flipa:

B16EJ1
05-06-2003, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by civicoupex
hey anyone know if you can put a hyro clutch trans on a engine uses a cable clutch? And i have a problem and i have a civic with hydro clutch and the engine i want to put in the car uses a cable clutch?

Maybe you read it wrong or something. He asked if he could use a hydro tranny on a cable tranny engine and you said no when the answer is yes.

B16EJ1
05-06-2003, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by markpa
if the engine is cable then you need a cable tranny, if the engine is hydro you need a hydro tranny, do you understand that B16EJ1
, i know your kinda slow.:flipa:

You're a fuckin idiot. If you wan to put a 1st gen b16a in your 5th gen civic that uses a hydro tranny you can just use a hydro tranny on the cable engine you dumbshit.

B16EJ1
05-06-2003, 11:21 PM
Why do you even post when you don't fuckin know?

markpa
05-06-2003, 11:22 PM
1st gen b16a use cable tranny u dumb shit, and you cant use a hydro tranny

B16EJ1
05-06-2003, 11:26 PM
You're a retard. I have friends who've done it. Ask anyone who has swapped a motor. It can and has been done. Like I've already said. The problem is using the cable tranny in a chassis made to use hydro. For that they make coversion kits. Just STFU and stop giving bad info.

markpa
05-06-2003, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by B16EJ1


gen civic that uses a hydro tranny you can just use a hydro tranny on the cable engine you dumbshit. Id really like you to do that, and let us know how long the swap lasts. :flipa:

markpa
05-06-2003, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by B16EJ1
You're a retard. I have friends who've done it. Ask anyone who has swapped a motor. It can and has been done. Like I've already said. The problem is using the cable tranny in a chassis made to use hydro. For that they make coversion kits. Just STFU and stop giving bad info. yeah technically its possible but its the dumbest thing to fucking do, not only do you jepordize the reliability of the tranny you jepordize loosing hp. So you stfu

B16EJ1
05-06-2003, 11:32 PM
Like I've said it's been done over and over. The swap is performed because of the fact that the hydro is better. I know this is all new to you but just sit and let the info soak in. It might take a while. Dumbass.

B16EJ1
05-06-2003, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by markpa
yeah technically its possible but its the dumbest thing to fucking do, not only do you jepordize the reliability of the tranny you jepordize loosing hp. So you stfu

Why don't you explain how a better tranny and clutch effects the engine in a bad way. The flywheel is the same on an engine made for hyro or cable tranny. So what's the difference between the both except the clutch and tranny? YOU ARE WRONG. Just except it and stfu already.

markpa
05-06-2003, 11:35 PM
your still going at it, ask any shop and theyll tell you the same thing, they wont recommand you getting a conversion kit.:flipa:

B16EJ1
05-06-2003, 11:48 PM
You still don't know what I'm saying. I have friends that are installers at shops. The conversion kit is for if you put a 1st gen b16a and cable tranny into your 5th gen(hydro) civic. If you take a 1st gen B16 longblock and use a hydro ys1 tranny then swap it in your 5th gen (hydro) civic, no conversion is needed. There will be no damage or problems caused because of the use of a hydro tranny on a cable longblock. Why would a better drivetrain, later used on the 2nd gen b16,
damage your longblock? Both the 1st gen and 2nd gen b16's are the same at the flywheel. So why don't you explain why. Shops would much rather swap the tranny's out because it is more reliable than doing the conversion kit to use the cable tranny in a chassis built to run hydro. You might want to read five times to make sure you understand.YOU LOSE DUMB SHIT!!!

markpa
05-06-2003, 11:56 PM
no actually shops wouldnt wanna deal wikth conversion kits, its much easier just to swap the original tranny, instead of a conversion kit.

B16EJ1
05-07-2003, 12:00 AM
You idiot. You don't even know what a conversion kit is.
A conversion kit is used when using a cable tranny in a hydro tranny chassis.
Swapping a hydro tranny onto a cable tranny block to use in a hydro tranny chassis is not a conversion kit.

markpa
05-07-2003, 12:45 AM
i never said thats what a conversion kit was, you really should go back to grade school.

B16EJ1
05-07-2003, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by markpa
no actually shops wouldnt wanna deal wikth conversion kits, its much easier just to swap the original tranny, instead of a conversion kit.

So what do you mean by this? To swap the original cable tranny into a 5th gen you'd need a coversion kit. It's not possible to swap a cable tranny into a hydro chassis. Explain exactly what this statement means. Everything you have stated in this post is incorrect. By doing this you cause more problems. If you don't know what you're talking about don't reply like you do and lead people down the wrong path.

liquid8
05-07-2003, 01:32 AM
YOU CAN put a hydro tranny on an originally cable tranny engine. like i could put the b16a3 tranny on the b16a1. the only time you would need a conversion kit is if you were putting a cable tranny in a car that had a hydro tranny previously.

B16EJ1
05-07-2003, 01:37 AM
Thank you. I've been trying to explain that for the last page of this thread.

sageuvagony
05-09-2003, 11:39 PM
ahhhhhh so much going on! well I have a shit auto and want to convert it to stick but people tell me its not worth it but I really plan on fixing this car up so when I go for the swap im buying new tranny and everything.. guessing its gonna be hydro right?

sageuvagony
05-09-2003, 11:40 PM
oops I forgot my face :bloated:

B16EJ1
05-10-2003, 03:01 AM
Originally posted by sageuvagony
buying new tranny and everything.. guessing its gonna be hydro right?

Yeah. Swap a stick in there too.

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