Intake manifold please help
Ticla
09-24-2004, 08:54 PM
Crown vic 1996 100.000kilometers (60,000miles) my upper intake manifold (made in cheap plastic), just blow out, in front. just behind the alternator.
My question is it is possible to repair this with Epoxy, or other ????
I was thinking of a mix of fiberglass. Could anyone help? i call the dealer and ther asking 1000.00$ for upper intake manifold.
My last ford car
clarence
My question is it is possible to repair this with Epoxy, or other ????
I was thinking of a mix of fiberglass. Could anyone help? i call the dealer and ther asking 1000.00$ for upper intake manifold.
My last ford car
clarence
ModMech
09-25-2004, 08:49 AM
No, it cannot be repaired.
Ford is not the only manufacturer to use a resin intake, and to run coolant thru it and have failures. They ARE the only ones to have stopped.
$1000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! They're frickin CRAZY!!!!
RUN! Call another dealer. The intake kits are about $250, and they are EASY to replace, like under 2.5 hours.
Ford is not the only manufacturer to use a resin intake, and to run coolant thru it and have failures. They ARE the only ones to have stopped.
$1000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! They're frickin CRAZY!!!!
RUN! Call another dealer. The intake kits are about $250, and they are EASY to replace, like under 2.5 hours.
Samw
09-25-2004, 01:55 PM
Don't even think of repairing it!
Lousy design.
Ford has a replacement manifold that uses an aluminum manifold to carry the coolant, the rest of it is still plastic. No where near $1000. Maybe they quoted you the price for parts and labor to replace the manifold(still insanely high).
Lousy design.
Ford has a replacement manifold that uses an aluminum manifold to carry the coolant, the rest of it is still plastic. No where near $1000. Maybe they quoted you the price for parts and labor to replace the manifold(still insanely high).
jasong145
09-26-2004, 12:02 AM
i replaced one on my dads 99 grand marquis, PAIN IN THE ASS!!! i heard from somewhere on this site that Ford is recalling the cracked manifolds near where the thermostat is. if i would o knew that, i would of picked up one, instead of getting another plastic one. i thought the had plastic in 98-present. my mom has a 94 p71 and it has an alluminum one. ehh, well just look on the site about the manifold recall thing, it will save you time, and lots of aggervation.
ModMech
09-26-2004, 11:26 AM
The "recall" applies for 7years, unlimited miles. His '96 would no longer quality due to time. Also, it only applies to the cars with "P71/72" in the vin or Lincols with "limo prep".
Ticla
09-28-2004, 05:34 AM
Thanks to all..
clarence
clarence
pollenjesus
09-28-2004, 08:49 PM
As far as I know there has only been a recall by Ford for the intakes on police and taxi vehicals. Ford updated the intake design for 2002 model year to have an aluminum coolant passage instead of the plastic.
cheers
cheers
radioman2002
09-30-2004, 03:09 PM
Is it a fact about the 7 years? I just changed one on my 97 CVPI. I am looking for a replacement, to keep for a spare. Also what site has the recall info?
ModMech
10-01-2004, 10:16 AM
Yes, 7years unlimited mileage.
The recall is posted a few times at www.crownvic.net in the "4.6Tech" and 4.6 Archieve" sections.
The recall is posted a few times at www.crownvic.net in the "4.6Tech" and 4.6 Archieve" sections.
Warren'74
10-02-2004, 08:37 AM
Is it a fact about the 7 years? I just changed one on my 97 CVPI. I am looking for a replacement, to keep for a spare. Also what site has the recall info?
Did you get the intake with the aluminum crossover?? If so, you will not need a spare.
Did you get the intake with the aluminum crossover?? If so, you will not need a spare.
radioman2002
10-05-2004, 07:29 AM
No I parted out a 96 CVPI, Was looking to get the bad one replaced under warrantee for a spare.
Warren'74
10-05-2004, 07:34 AM
OIC. There has been a few decent deals on ebay for the aluminum crossover intake. Ive thought about getting one of those for my 1999, as it has been replaces, but not with the alum. crossover.
schwinnfever
10-11-2004, 09:07 AM
I tried to fix mine with JB Weld, worked for 2 mins... The problem is the alt brace is pulling on that manifold.. that is were the crack comes from.. I bought mine from Ford.. I also called ford corp to check on a call back and they ran my vin and said no.. BUT told me to hold onto my receipt in case one does happen and I could then turn that bill in and get my money.. The last thing I want to tell you is I have a friend that works at Advanced Auto Parts and he told me that they have a replacement part for that... It was too late so I never followed up on it but if you didn't buy it, give them a call or anther major parts store... The job is very easy to do... and if you don't have the tool to remove the fuel lines, you can just leave it hooked to the rail and lift the whole rail out of the way.... I suggest you buy all new injecter o-rings..... good luck
Nedam
08-22-2005, 04:45 AM
I've had the same trouble with my 1997 CV & couldn't fix it with epoxy. Found a used (manifold) with the alluminum coolent passage ,I replaced the old plastic one with a new pair of gaskets but i couldnt have my car to idle smoothly as it was without finding the real cause & i'm still working on that. Is it a leake or somthing else. It is realy (pain in the a...) .
way2old
08-22-2005, 06:50 PM
The 7 year warranty is for Police, Taxi, and Limo only. You have to prove the vehicle is still in that use.
ModMech
08-22-2005, 10:48 PM
Nope, ANY CV with a "P71" VIN is covered, as is ANY "Lino prep" T/C AS LONG AS you are under 7 years from the warrenty start date. It DOES NOT have to be "in service" to be covered, although some dealerships are claiming this. If you read the "recall", you sill see Ford does not have any language that requires the vehicle to be "in service".
peppermrj
09-03-2005, 02:34 PM
The lawsuit seeks to have the 7 year warranty extended to all effected vehicles. The Court will hold a final fairness hearing on October 7,2005. Here is a web site for the settlement.
Chamberlan v. Ford Settlement Administration website (http://www.fordmanifoldsettlement.com/index.html) I did a google and found several news articles that listed the above site. ( Reimbursement Ahead For Ford Drivers?) (http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=7on_your_side&id=3316673) There is also a toll free number (888)826-3047.
Chamberlan v. Ford Settlement Administration website (http://www.fordmanifoldsettlement.com/index.html) I did a google and found several news articles that listed the above site. ( Reimbursement Ahead For Ford Drivers?) (http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=7on_your_side&id=3316673) There is also a toll free number (888)826-3047.
Turbo_Cobra
09-29-2005, 08:25 AM
I recieved a notice for the intake on my 99 Crown Vic, Cars Affected:
1996-2001 Crown Vic, Grand Marquis, Town Car, Cougar, T-Bird, Mustang (built after 6/24/97), Mustang (98-01 some vehicles), and Explorer 2002 (some vehicles). INFO: www.FordManifoldSettlement.com (http://www.FordManifoldSettlement.com)
1996-2001 Crown Vic, Grand Marquis, Town Car, Cougar, T-Bird, Mustang (built after 6/24/97), Mustang (98-01 some vehicles), and Explorer 2002 (some vehicles). INFO: www.FordManifoldSettlement.com (http://www.FordManifoldSettlement.com)
rsim
10-07-2005, 01:06 PM
Crown vic 1996 100.000kilometers (60,000miles) my upper intake manifold (made in cheap plastic), just blow out, in front. just behind the alternator.
My question is it is possible to repair this with Epoxy, or other ????
I was thinking of a mix of fiberglass. Could anyone help? i call the dealer and ther asking 1000.00$ for upper intake manifold.
My last ford car
clarence
I found a new manifold just like the one your Ford dealer is selling for 600.00 cost only 200.00 form some place in New York. I think they were a Dismanlinter but had new parts. I will try to find the shop. I and my 2 sons installed it it 3 hours on our first try. Ford wants 4 hours.
found a short cut with the removal of the ox sensor. Remove the tube from the intake manifold that goes to the ox sensor. It easier than removing the ox sensor
OK HERE IS WHERE I BOUGHT THE INTAKE MANIFOLE
S & J Used Auto Parts
40 Excelsior Ave
Saratoga Springs, NY 12866-2405
(518) 583-7278
BUT I ALSO FOUND THIS
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff147416.htm
BUT IT ALL WENT OK WITH MY PURCHASE BUT THEY DID SEND FROM ANOTHER LOCATION. TOTAL COST WAS 275.00 STILL BETTER THAN 600.00+ FROM A RIP OFF FORD DEALER. THEY ALSO WANTED 4 HOURS TO INSTALL . WE DID IT IN 3 HOURS ON THE FIRST TRY
THE PART FIT JUST FINE BUT I DID NEED TO GET THE NEW VERSION THEROSTAT HOUSING
My question is it is possible to repair this with Epoxy, or other ????
I was thinking of a mix of fiberglass. Could anyone help? i call the dealer and ther asking 1000.00$ for upper intake manifold.
My last ford car
clarence
I found a new manifold just like the one your Ford dealer is selling for 600.00 cost only 200.00 form some place in New York. I think they were a Dismanlinter but had new parts. I will try to find the shop. I and my 2 sons installed it it 3 hours on our first try. Ford wants 4 hours.
found a short cut with the removal of the ox sensor. Remove the tube from the intake manifold that goes to the ox sensor. It easier than removing the ox sensor
OK HERE IS WHERE I BOUGHT THE INTAKE MANIFOLE
S & J Used Auto Parts
40 Excelsior Ave
Saratoga Springs, NY 12866-2405
(518) 583-7278
BUT I ALSO FOUND THIS
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff147416.htm
BUT IT ALL WENT OK WITH MY PURCHASE BUT THEY DID SEND FROM ANOTHER LOCATION. TOTAL COST WAS 275.00 STILL BETTER THAN 600.00+ FROM A RIP OFF FORD DEALER. THEY ALSO WANTED 4 HOURS TO INSTALL . WE DID IT IN 3 HOURS ON THE FIRST TRY
THE PART FIT JUST FINE BUT I DID NEED TO GET THE NEW VERSION THEROSTAT HOUSING
radioman2002
10-09-2005, 09:57 AM
Personnaly I wouldn't give Ford the satisfaction of buying a replacement through them. Buy an after market with the aluminum crossover. I sent a 1996 CVPI to them with the craked mainfold within the 7 years and they still denied the warantee replacement. As far as dealers go, don't do business with them unless it is for warantee work.
Reminds me of the problems Chevy had with their maniforlds in the 80's, the aluminum would get pourus and the engine would leanout and sometimes catch fire.
Reminds me of the problems Chevy had with their maniforlds in the 80's, the aluminum would get pourus and the engine would leanout and sometimes catch fire.
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