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-Jayson-
09-24-2004, 09:50 AM
man this supercharger is just amazing, i love the power and speed of it. This is now the fastest car i have ever driven and boy is it fun to drive. Not to mention its a great sleeper. When i let the SC whine like a little girl, people just give me this look like wtf is in there? Its so great. . .ahh

everyone at the dealership was really impressed with the car. When i came in, only one service man was available, and he was helping someone else, so i went over to my car and popped the hood to check it out. Within 2 minutes like 5 mechanics are all standing around talking about it, even the guy who installed it. They were like you got a real sleeper there, a tiny rocket one of them called it. Prolly the funniest thing is the guy who took care of my bill and all was a 20 something kid not to much older than me. He told me he wrote down my liscense plate so if he ever saw me at the line he would know not to mess around. LoL i chuckled at that.

But damn boost is fun, so worth the money. Once my warranty experies on my car ill turn up the boost, but for now it will stay how it is. About 5 PSI that makes it very close to 200HP at the crank. Mind you this is out of my little 4 cylinder DOHC 2.4L engine with 150HP stock.

Watch out, a cavalier is gonna sleep ya!

tha_new_guy
09-24-2004, 09:58 AM
That was the most pathetic race story I have ever heard.












J/K! Sounds like fun...what other mods did you have to do to safely supercharge it?

And yes, it sounds like a fun lil sleeper. :thumbsup:

-Jayson-
09-24-2004, 10:11 AM
so far just an intake and upper engine mounts. The kit came with, supercharger, belt, pullies, 3100CC injectors, and all the extras to make it work. Gm also reflashed the OBDII computer so the air fuel ratios are on par.

drftk1d
09-24-2004, 10:11 AM
I think if its the factory supercharger (the GM performace thingy) then it just bolts on with bo mods, maybe injectors. It sounds stupid but i think they designed the kit like that

10sec-Hopeful
09-24-2004, 10:21 AM
That's awesome man. About 2 months and I'll be joining the junkie ranks hah.

-Jayson-
09-24-2004, 11:05 AM
yes its the GM Performance parts supercharger, it pretty much is just a bolt on with an ECU reflash and bigger injectors. But everyone told me this is the one of the most reliable supercharges they have ever seen. Not to mention i get to keep my full bumper to bumper warranty :). The kit was designed for my car, and was heavily tested and tuned by GM.

But damn i just love it, i love the looks people give me when they hear the supercharger whine. Like some guy in a mustang GT i kept seeing him look over at my car trying to figure out what the hell was going on. And watching a BMW 325i try and keep up with me was pretty funny as well.

god i love boost. . . its like i cream my jeans every time i hit the peddle.

Polygon
09-24-2004, 11:54 AM
Once a friend of mine drove his twin turbo Stealth RT out here when he came out to visit. Both of us have boosted cars but his cousin had never experienced boost. So he let him drive the Stealth and he called it a cargasm.

Once you get some boost it is very addictive. I know I missed having a turbo for the year and a half after my first GTC got totaled.

-Jayson-
09-24-2004, 12:01 PM
sriously all i want to do is drive around in my car, its just so fun. Only thing is, now i dont redline as high as before. before i would redline around 7,000 RPMS, now its more like 6,000 RPMS. How much speed do i lose because of that? I heard that it had something to do with the vacum line.

HighRev87
09-24-2004, 01:52 PM
the car is auto?

Musashi3000GT
09-24-2004, 02:05 PM
so you have a 2.4 SC and only makes 200 hp????? thats kinda weak. how fast is it? I guess you'll be picking on Cobalts and SC Scion Tcs now huh? how much was the kit?

burntrice087
09-24-2004, 02:10 PM
Forgive me if i missed something here but...since when did Cavaliers come with a factory supercharger????

hahaha you got quite a sleeper there. If your ever in the Nashua NH area,give me a holla and we'll see if your blown Cavi can run against my turboed ECHO

Polygon
09-24-2004, 02:47 PM
Forgive me if i missed something here but...since when did Cavaliers come with a factory supercharger????

hahaha you got quite a sleeper there. If your ever in the Nashua NH area,give me a holla and we'll see if your blown Cavi can run against my turboed ECHO

They don't come with one, but you can have a factory kit installed after the fact.

HighRev87
09-24-2004, 03:28 PM
so you have a 2.4 SC and only makes 200 hp????? thats kinda weak.
Actually not really. He is running low boost right now to 200hp, and his car is significantly light on weight.

burntrice087
09-24-2004, 03:38 PM
They don't come with one, but you can have a factory kit installed after the fact.

how do you get this factory kit.After buying a cavalier do you simply request them to order the kit or do u have to order the kit from MOPAR and they install it for you

Polygon
09-24-2004, 04:07 PM
how do you get this factory kit.After buying a cavalier do you simply request them to order the kit or do u have to order the kit from MOPAR and they install it for you

Huh?

The Cav isn't a Mopar. You can buy a Cav and then go to the dealer, order the kit, then have the dealer install it.

JoonTae
09-24-2004, 05:23 PM
hahaha you got quite a sleeper there. If your ever in the Nashua NH area,give me a holla and we'll see if your blown Cavi can run against my turboed ECHO

lol man I would love to see this race.

crunchymilk55
09-24-2004, 07:31 PM
I'm glad others understand my boost addiction.

nissanfanatic
09-24-2004, 07:55 PM
so you have a 2.4 SC and only makes 200 hp????? thats kinda weak. how fast is it? I guess you'll be picking on Cobalts and SC Scion Tcs now huh? how much was the kit?

Let's see.

150hp stock+5psi

(14.7+5)/14.7=1.34

150x1.34=201hp.

So yea, that about right. Jeeze.

Thats cool. I'm gonna join the Booze club soon. Official Boozeaholic in 2 weeks. Are you gonna do anything else? Run it at the track yet? Post up times when you do. Congrats and use your power wisely.

HighRev87
09-24-2004, 09:42 PM
Thanks Bill Nye.

-Jayson-
09-24-2004, 11:17 PM
im hopefully gonna make it to the track in the next few weeks. Just need the time and money. Yes its a factory kit, they dont make a model with it already installed, but the kit is made by GM performance. I ordered it online and took it to a dealership to have it installed. The kti cost 2215 and installation was about 500 bucks. From many other people that i have talked to who have the supercharger in their car, stock its very common for high to mid 14s.

Man i took it out for the night to do some racing, man this thing torque steers like a bitch off the line. But shit once it hooks up, im gone. I didnt get many good races and the one really good race i couldnt tell the make of the car, it looked more like a luxury sedan. I blew the doors off a grandprix GT, some ricers in a riced out acura wouldnt give me a race. I was kinda pissed cause i really wanted to laugh at them. Had the usual fart can, euros, wing, aftermarket fog lights, and 2 punks in it. I think they got scared once they heard the SC whine. Man im seriously in love with my car now, its so fast and so uncommon. I love the look people give me when i let the supercharger whine, its like wtf is in there?

Also on a side note, im really knew to forced induction so mind all the stupid questions i will have for you guys but heres one. Since today being the first day i had the supercharger, i had less than a 1/4 of a tank of 87 octane gas left and then filled it a little less than 3/4 of a tank with premium. at first it didnt run to well, but then it smoothed out really well. Now im down to about an 1/8th of a tank and its not feeling to good. Its loud with random noises. Could this just be the rest of the 87 octane being burned off, or do FI engines not run well on a very low tank?

TatII
09-24-2004, 11:45 PM
when you mix fuel it will be a full mixture. so i'm assuming your tank is now full of 90 octane gas instead of 91. and about the poping noises, is it from your tail pipe? if it is tahts just your car running rich. perfectly normal for a FI car. and glad you like your SC. but wait till you try a turbo charger. lolz the boost hits much harder then a SC since the SC's power dilvery is more linear and more invisible compared to a sudden rush of power. my car gains 125whp in just 1K rpm. so you would assume how the car pulls in that 1K increment. anyways congrats. your car should be almost as fast as turbo2nr's car.

Ricochet
09-25-2004, 02:41 AM
Cool man, but how's it feel knowing my 1.6 liter n/a Civic is faster than your 2.2 liter supercharged Cavalier?

-The Stig-
09-25-2004, 02:53 AM
Cool man, but how's it feel knowing my 1.6 liter n/a Civic is faster than your 2.2 liter supercharged Cavalier?

Yeah, but how's it feel knowing my 2 liter factory turbocharged SR is faster than your 1.6 liter n/a Civic? ahhdurrrrrr.:rolleyes:


If you're going to insult him, get it right.

It's a 2.4L. Hence the Z24 badge. Good job Genius.:thumbsup: :rolleyes:





Nobody cares. Seriously.

Ricochet
09-25-2004, 02:54 AM
Yeah, but how's it feel knowing my 2 liter factory turbocharged SR is faster than your 1.6 liter n/a Civic?
A boosted car with more displacement should be faster than my car, that's my point.. "ahhhduuurrrr"

It's a 2.4L
Even worse!

-The Stig-
09-25-2004, 03:03 AM
Yeah it should be faster. But different strokes for different folks. If he likes it, then good for him. Don't rain on his parade.


With displacement comes greater torque downlow. Something your B16A has a lack of. I wouldn't be suprised if he could give you a run for your money. A broader torque curve truely helps.

pre98zetec
09-25-2004, 03:10 AM
Most of why your civic is faster then his cavy is because of the weight, I'd say that civic weights mabe 500lbs less? I'm just guessing here..

-The Stig-
09-25-2004, 03:12 AM
Most of why your civic is faster then his cavy is because of the weight, I'd say that civic weights mabe 500lbs less? I'm just guessing here..


The Cavy is probably 2700-2800lbs, the Civic is probably 2500-2600lbs.

Not too far off really.

Ricochet
09-25-2004, 03:14 AM
Check the sig, B16B.. Comes out of a jdm Civic Type R.
He may have a broader torque curve but I have 8,600 rpms to rev through while he's falling back every shift. That's exactly what happens with all the Mustangs and boosted sohc Civics around here.

Oh and my car weighs 2,300lbs :D
Redneck, for critiquing me so harshly you sure aren't too educated on my car.

pre98zetec
09-25-2004, 03:22 AM
My god does it really matter...

Ricochet
09-25-2004, 03:25 AM
No, just trying to win a stupid argument, and I did.

-The Stig-
09-25-2004, 03:26 AM
Check the sig, B16B.. Comes out of a jdm Civic Type R.
He may have a broader torque curve but I have 8,600 rpms to rev through while he's falling back every shift. That's exactly what happens with all the Mustangs and boosted sohc Civics around here.

Oh and my car weighs 2,300lbs :D
Redneck, for critiquing me so harshly you sure aren't too educated on my car.

My bad on the B16B part, I knew better. Just forgot. Plus, it's 1:24am for me. I really do not feel like looking up the specs for each car. Get over it, I am.

But, I don't see why you have to come on here dogging on his choice of car. Remember, Closed mindedness is a bad thing.

-Jayson-
09-25-2004, 08:59 AM
ok well i think my supercharger problems last night were a combination of bad gas and an overheated supercharger cause today it is running just fine.

Also a reason i went with the supercharger is cause since its a GM part, it wont void my GM warranty that i have for another 30,000 miles or so.

my car feels fast, but now im just so tempted to go faster, i mean if a high 14 second car is this fun, what would a 12-13 second car be like?

-Jayson-
09-25-2004, 10:28 AM
Cool man, but how's it feel knowing my 1.6 liter n/a Civic is faster than your 2.2 liter supercharged Cavalier?

its a 2.4L supercharged DOHC. And honestly i dont care if your faster than me, someone will always be faster than you. I just enjoy the fact that i got a unique car that turns heads. Also im willing to bet my car rides a ton better than yours and has many more luxury features than yours does.

Ricochet
09-25-2004, 10:35 AM
someone will always be faster than you.
You people still don't get my point :disappoin
I just enjoy the fact that i got a unique car that turns heads.
You have a Cavalier..
My car isn't unique, your car isn't unique, and they won't be for another 20 years or so. RedNeck's car is unique.

-Jayson-
09-25-2004, 11:03 AM
how many supercharged cavaliers have you seen?

Ricochet
09-25-2004, 11:31 AM
That's just a little bit of perfume on shit, it's still a cavalier. Just like my car with a jdm engine swap, it's still just a Civic, nobody cares..

HighRev87
09-25-2004, 11:48 AM
Rico you are saying that he should get no respect because the car came from a cavy? How about the video of a geo metro running 10s or 11s not sure which, is that non respectful? Remember when he pulls up next to someone and they try to race him, he will have a good laugh. As for your car, im not a civic fan, but you have a clean look, and a swapped engine so more then likely you know about cars. That also calls for respect.

-Jayson-
09-25-2004, 12:11 PM
Have you ever driven a Z24 cavalier? Or are you just repeating what others have told you and what you think you know about them? Ill admit the baseline cavaliers are crap, i know i used to own one, the Z24 is an entirely different car.

Ricochet
09-25-2004, 01:54 PM
I respect the hell out of him for boosting it rather that spending that money on a body kit, but I'm just giving him a hard time because he has boost and .8 more liters than I do, and it's still slower than my car. In other words, I'm making fun of Chevy.. And his car doesn't run 10's, you're comparing apples and oranges.

Yes I've driven a stock Z24. They're just like any other 4 cylinder daily driver with a tad more throttle response, wow.

-Jayson-
09-25-2004, 01:59 PM
whats ur 1/4 mile time? Yeah but how much money total have you spent to make your car that fast? I spent 8,500 on the car and 2700 for the supercharger, so 11,200 is my total. and i can turn up the boost anytime i want for just a few more bucks. What if i was running 7 PSI of boost? or 8? See now that ive already made the initial invenstment, i can make lots more power for much cheaper than you can.

TatII
09-25-2004, 02:10 PM
his car is most likely a mid to low 14 second car tops.

Ricochet
09-25-2004, 02:15 PM
Wow, you know people are desperate to win a horsepower argument when they start asking how much it all cost. It's capable of mid 14's, and go ahead and turn up your boost. Let me know how your pos chevy engine is holding up in a few months :loser: Anyways I'm done with this dead-end thread...

1.6 Honda liters > 2.4 boosted Chevy liters

TatII
09-25-2004, 02:31 PM
well i see where your coming from but still you can't really say that to other people. esp if they love their car. you should know how that felt when your civic was stock. so i mean why put down other peoples cars? seriously you don't want to make enemies here since all of us are pretty cool with each in this community. however how would you feel if i told you that your civic is a POS and that i think V-tec is not all that? and how my car will destroy your car in everyway possible? doesn't sound very nice now doesn't it?

-The Stig-
09-25-2004, 02:40 PM
I remember when he first got the swap. He'd probably not find it so fun if somebody came strolling along and told him it's still only a Civic. And that it's still slow.


:disappoin

carrrnuttt
09-25-2004, 02:40 PM
This is one of the reasons I was opposed to the co-mingling of the Honda/Acura Street/Track forums with the good 'ol Street Racing forum...I didn't mind it when Ricochet did this to the newbs with an overblown sense of their Honda Civic DX. It was annoying, but the guy deserved it usually, and it was funny. Plus I can choose to ignore it, sitting in the H/A forums.

Now, its just annoying.

Mister_Sinister
09-25-2004, 03:04 PM
Congrats Richochet, you've won the asshole of the year award.

Yes, we know how your B16B is fantastic and all. We know its faster than his z24. And we don't give a rats ass.

He was excited about his new S/C, and you have to come in and try to bring him down. How would you have felt if, right after you threw in your little b16b, someone with a faster car came and threw it in your face?

Just help yourself to a big cup of STFU.

JoonTae
09-25-2004, 03:44 PM
Hey first of all congratz on the boosting bra. I know any car would be fun than having to wait like I am. And Rico... who cares if your car is still faster. It's still a Honduuuuh. I mean yeah you had to import your engine from Japan... and I'm guessing not really street legal eh? Whereas Jayson still hasa warranty on his car and didn't have to import it. Have fun cooking those ricers. Oh and I'm not a fan of domestics much unless it's muscle but I think it's gay that someone bashes you for what car you have. Sorry if gay isn't allowd but it suits it well. I'm into european.

ZackKVtec
09-25-2004, 03:52 PM
congrats on the boost jayson, i got a jrsc in my room just waiting for the liquid intercooling system and a few other parts that help overheating, i cant wait to be among yoru ranks

JoonTae
09-25-2004, 04:16 PM
Nice I hear JAckson Racing SC's(that's what you have right?) are pretty good. Let us know how it is.

burntrice087
09-25-2004, 06:54 PM
i know this is kinda a newbie question but can you get a BOV for a supercharger???

JoonTae
09-25-2004, 08:00 PM
Whoa sorry to jack the thread but burntrice087. How do you like your TDI? MY mom bought an 04 wagon and it's kickin. She wants to keep it stock for the mileage lol. Oh and if you're lookign to boost it a bit check out the upsolute chip. They're pretty good from what I've heard. Also check out TDIclub.com

HighRev87
09-25-2004, 08:36 PM
Which reminds me Rico, your car has a swap, and my GT will be faster. Hmm, and I am talking stock.

Mister_Sinister
09-25-2004, 09:17 PM
^Word to ya motha'! :)

crunchymilk55
09-25-2004, 10:17 PM
get off his nuts rico

Plenty of cars are much faster than you stock, does that mean the B16B is crap?

Have fun with the boosting!

question: How does a supercharger feel when driving? i drive a turbo, so I feel a BIG-ASS jump when i hear the turbo starting to spool. As I understand it, s/c needs no spool, so the spread is even. Does this mean that it just feels like a higher displacement car?? thanks

pre98zetec
09-25-2004, 10:48 PM
the supercharger he has, he feel the power instantly.

-Jayson-
09-25-2004, 11:51 PM
first off thanks for all the support guys, nice to know not everyone on the internet is a jackass. But yes with the supercharger it really is instant boost. But i dont feel the full force of it untill about 4500 RPMS, Really fun. Also its not a jackson supercharger, its made by GM Performance. Its a roots supercharger, with the stock pulley it makes about 5 PSI.
I love it, im addicted to boost and cant help but make that supercharger scream. Although i also scream when i get to the gas pump as see 2.00 bucks a gallon for 93 octane. . .ugh.

GritMaster
09-26-2004, 01:56 AM
2.00 bucks a gallon for 93 octane. . .ugh.

You're lucky... its 2.29... For arco (shitty) over by me :(

kman10587
09-26-2004, 03:25 AM
Here, it's 2 bucks a gallon for the 87 octane. Lucky you.

HighRev87
09-26-2004, 09:01 AM
^same here

TatII
09-26-2004, 11:40 AM
i know this is kinda a newbie question but can you get a BOV for a supercharger???

for a roots type like the ones found on the jackson racing, or the one that jayson has, or the factory one on the cobra's those do not need a olow off valve. however if you get the centrifigal super chargers like the ones made by vortech, then you NEED a blow off valve. the way to tell the difference is that the Roots type looks like a box that goes right on top of the intake manifold. it looks like 2 screws in a box. so its a.k.a Screw type. now for the Centrifugal type it looks just like a turbo compressor but instead of having a turboine side goin into the exhuast the exhuast mainfold, it has a gear box, and a shaft that goes to the front of the engine and its belt driven. the reason why this one needs a blow off valve is because it needs time to spool, and the compressor free wheels when you let off the throttle. just look at all the vortech style kits and you'll see a vortech BOV on all of them .

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