B18 REX Vs. Mini-Me REX
quiXilver
09-23-2004, 12:56 AM
Ok, a little follow up on the post a couple weeks ago. I went to the local street racer get together and there was this guy who I'd seen there before, anyway he had a CRX Si with a B18, header, full exaust, intake etc. He had steelies on the front and gsr rims on the back. Otherwise empty car. I wanted to see what I did against him, so we raced.
I have big chrome rims that wiegh prolly 30lbs each, and my full 2 sub/2 amp stereo system, and a crap clutch. He said his wasn't too great either but he can burn the tires in first just by steppin on the gas, I let him try my clutch and he's like "oh...yea yours is worse." This was the first time I had seen a CRX with a B series swap in person, it was very clean, car started up great and ran great. I am giving every detail just so you guys can freakin believe me. Recap on my car: CRX HF Mini-me swap, DX tranny, stage2 comp cam, adjustable gear, pg7 ecu, intake, header, full exaust etc. In the quarter he had me by 2-2 1/2 full lenth cars the people at the finish line said. He never would get to far away from me, and not that quickly. So overall I was pleased with my setup tonight. So for all you haters out there....THERE!
BTW he said he took his car to the track and ran 14.9 so....
I have big chrome rims that wiegh prolly 30lbs each, and my full 2 sub/2 amp stereo system, and a crap clutch. He said his wasn't too great either but he can burn the tires in first just by steppin on the gas, I let him try my clutch and he's like "oh...yea yours is worse." This was the first time I had seen a CRX with a B series swap in person, it was very clean, car started up great and ran great. I am giving every detail just so you guys can freakin believe me. Recap on my car: CRX HF Mini-me swap, DX tranny, stage2 comp cam, adjustable gear, pg7 ecu, intake, header, full exaust etc. In the quarter he had me by 2-2 1/2 full lenth cars the people at the finish line said. He never would get to far away from me, and not that quickly. So overall I was pleased with my setup tonight. So for all you haters out there....THERE!
BTW he said he took his car to the track and ran 14.9 so....
mellowboy
09-23-2004, 03:42 AM
2-2 1/2 cars? I wouldn't be proud of that.
SiZ
09-23-2004, 08:12 AM
HAHA.. An LS Civic beat me by a bus length! Take that haters!!!! :rolleyes:
What tranny is the guy using? What kind of tires? Does he know what the hell he's doing?
What tranny is the guy using? What kind of tires? Does he know what the hell he's doing?
turtlecrxsi
09-23-2004, 09:37 AM
2-2 1/2 cars? I wouldn't be proud of that.
Why not? He's got heavy ass chrome rims and a system but still kept up with a gutted b-swapped rex with a crappy clutch. I'd like to see what I could do too... and no I'm not that embarrassed when I get owned by someone with a twin cam with more displacement because things happen even though I know how to drive and when I stick it to people in cars like that it shows them they suck at driving or their cars are fucked up somehow. There are too many factors.
Anyway, quixilver, :thumbsup: bro
Why not? He's got heavy ass chrome rims and a system but still kept up with a gutted b-swapped rex with a crappy clutch. I'd like to see what I could do too... and no I'm not that embarrassed when I get owned by someone with a twin cam with more displacement because things happen even though I know how to drive and when I stick it to people in cars like that it shows them they suck at driving or their cars are fucked up somehow. There are too many factors.
Anyway, quixilver, :thumbsup: bro
mellowboy
09-23-2004, 10:49 AM
Well either way if he doesn't have all that heavy stuff...he probably still lose. Now if that LS swapped rex had a good clutch then theres no chance for quixilver.
quiXilver
09-23-2004, 11:47 AM
2-2 1/2 cars? I wouldn't be proud of that.
Thanks for the support. What setup are you running?
Thanks for the support. What setup are you running?
quiXilver
09-23-2004, 11:50 AM
HAHA.. An LS Civic beat me by a bus length! Take that haters!!!! :rolleyes:
What tranny is the guy using? What kind of tires? Does he know what the hell he's doing?
Si tranny...yea he knows what he's doing i said he had stock steelies on the front and gsr rims on the back. i donno what kinda tires. i think his clutch is just fine if he can burn the tires in first
Why not? He's got heavy ass chrome rims and a system but still kept up with a gutted b-swapped rex with a crappy clutch. I'd like to see what I could do too... and no I'm not that embarrassed when I get owned by someone with a twin cam with more displacement because things happen even though I know how to drive and when I stick it to people in cars like that it shows them they suck at driving or their cars are fucked up somehow. There are too many factors.
Anyway, quixilver, :thumbsup: bro
Thank you! hello? single cam 1.5L vs 1.8L twin cam? he only beat me by a 1/2 sec. I don't think it's that bad.
What tranny is the guy using? What kind of tires? Does he know what the hell he's doing?
Si tranny...yea he knows what he's doing i said he had stock steelies on the front and gsr rims on the back. i donno what kinda tires. i think his clutch is just fine if he can burn the tires in first
Why not? He's got heavy ass chrome rims and a system but still kept up with a gutted b-swapped rex with a crappy clutch. I'd like to see what I could do too... and no I'm not that embarrassed when I get owned by someone with a twin cam with more displacement because things happen even though I know how to drive and when I stick it to people in cars like that it shows them they suck at driving or their cars are fucked up somehow. There are too many factors.
Anyway, quixilver, :thumbsup: bro
Thank you! hello? single cam 1.5L vs 1.8L twin cam? he only beat me by a 1/2 sec. I don't think it's that bad.
mellowboy
09-23-2004, 12:00 PM
What setup are you running?
Well i sold my rex. If you really want to know here it goes...
Engine/drivetrain
B16a head
jdm dc sports header
B18c5 shortblock
CTR pistons/b16a rods
Borla cat-back
Generic Cold air intake
Action Clutch
Suspension
Neuspeed springs (1.8 front and 2.0back drop)
Tockico blues
Falken Azenas on stock rims
That set up alone got me into high 13s. You would need binoculars (spelling) to see me ahead of you!
Well i sold my rex. If you really want to know here it goes...
Engine/drivetrain
B16a head
jdm dc sports header
B18c5 shortblock
CTR pistons/b16a rods
Borla cat-back
Generic Cold air intake
Action Clutch
Suspension
Neuspeed springs (1.8 front and 2.0back drop)
Tockico blues
Falken Azenas on stock rims
That set up alone got me into high 13s. You would need binoculars (spelling) to see me ahead of you!
mellowboy
09-23-2004, 12:04 PM
Thank you! hello? single cam 1.5L vs 1.8L twin cam? he only beat me by a 1/2 sec.
In the quarter he had me by 2-2 1/2 full lenth cars
Thats more than 1/2 a sec buddy.
In the quarter he had me by 2-2 1/2 full lenth cars
Thats more than 1/2 a sec buddy.
91civicDXdude
09-23-2004, 12:10 PM
one street race doesnt mean a thing. He had a gutted car and was ready to race. You had a car full of stereo shit and whatnot.
my advice is that next time you go to the races, gut your car and be ready to race, so as not to make excuses how you lost.
dont listen to the haters.
my advice is that next time you go to the races, gut your car and be ready to race, so as not to make excuses how you lost.
dont listen to the haters.
mellowboy
09-23-2004, 12:12 PM
Yeh dont listen to me since i'm a hater.
quiXilver
09-23-2004, 12:30 PM
Yeh dont listen to me since i'm a hater.
Good advice.
Good advice.
mellowboy
09-23-2004, 12:40 PM
I was bein sarcastic.
spoolinLSVTEC
09-23-2004, 01:03 PM
an ls civic beat you too> and dont you have a b16a? i fucking went up to the races, and got beat by a stock ls integra. he took me off the line, then i pulled on him, and then the vary place i thought i'd take him(in the upper rpms) he pulled away from me, like at the very end. i was so pissed. if i'd have known that would have happened i wouldnt have ever got my b16, i would have just thrown in the ls i have sitting down here in my garage. my plans this winter are to put the ls shortblock under my b16 head. what do you think that would be pushing for hp, with all stock internals. just i/h/e? what will i have to set my shift light at? i know the ls bottom end will not stand up to the 8200 redline my b16 does.
thanks
thanks
mellowboy
09-23-2004, 01:57 PM
an ls civic beat you too> and dont you have a b16a? i fucking went up to the races, and got beat by a stock ls integra. he took me off the line, then i pulled on him, and then the vary place i thought i'd take him(in the upper rpms) he pulled away from me, like at the very end. i was so pissed. if i'd have known that would have happened i wouldnt have ever got my b16, i would have just thrown in the ls i have sitting down here in my garage. my plans this winter are to put the ls shortblock under my b16 head. what do you think that would be pushing for hp, with all stock internals. just i/h/e? what will i have to set my shift light at? i know the ls bottom end will not stand up to the 8200 redline my b16 does.
thanks
Just do the same set up i did. Find yourself a gsr/type r shortblock and slap your b16a head on it. Its alot of work to do ls vtec since it needs to be built right! When i had a full b16a swap, i usually beat ppl that has LS motors. They'll beat me off the line but i pull on them real good on third gear.
thanks
Just do the same set up i did. Find yourself a gsr/type r shortblock and slap your b16a head on it. Its alot of work to do ls vtec since it needs to be built right! When i had a full b16a swap, i usually beat ppl that has LS motors. They'll beat me off the line but i pull on them real good on third gear.
quiXilver
09-23-2004, 02:09 PM
I was bein sarcastic.
I know.
I know.
SiZ
09-23-2004, 04:30 PM
Si tranny...yea he knows what he's doing i said he had stock steelies on the front and gsr rims on the back. i donno what kinda tires. i think his clutch is just fine if he can burn the tires in first
Thank you! hello? single cam 1.5L vs 1.8L twin cam? he only beat me by a 1/2 sec. I don't think it's that bad.
An Si tranny on an LS motor?!? That doesn't make any fuggin sense.
And don't assume that he only beat you by half a second with a 2.5 car length loss on the street, you haven't even raced it on the track. Don't try and pass off opinion as fact, that makes you look foolish. How do you know he didn't fuck up his lanch or something, wich could make his run a 15.3 on a hypothetical track, wich would put you around 15.8-9.. Its pretty hard to assume that he ran the same time as his best 1/4 time when he was racing you.. Especially since it wasn't even on a real race track.
Thank you! hello? single cam 1.5L vs 1.8L twin cam? he only beat me by a 1/2 sec. I don't think it's that bad.
An Si tranny on an LS motor?!? That doesn't make any fuggin sense.
And don't assume that he only beat you by half a second with a 2.5 car length loss on the street, you haven't even raced it on the track. Don't try and pass off opinion as fact, that makes you look foolish. How do you know he didn't fuck up his lanch or something, wich could make his run a 15.3 on a hypothetical track, wich would put you around 15.8-9.. Its pretty hard to assume that he ran the same time as his best 1/4 time when he was racing you.. Especially since it wasn't even on a real race track.
quiXilver
09-23-2004, 04:58 PM
An Si tranny on an LS motor?!? That doesn't make any fuggin sense.
And don't assume that he only beat you by half a second with a 2.5 car length loss on the street, you haven't even raced it on the track. Don't try and pass off opinion as fact, that makes you look foolish. How do you know he didn't fuck up his lanch or something, wich could make his run a 15.3 on a hypothetical track, wich would put you around 15.8-9.. Its pretty hard to assume that he ran the same time as his best 1/4 time when he was racing you.. Especially since it wasn't even on a real race track.
Damn why is everyone so negative? I'll go to the fuckin track and get a time slip. Jesus christ I have a mini-me swap against a twin cam motor with less weight and more displacement and I can't get any credit.
And don't assume that he only beat you by half a second with a 2.5 car length loss on the street, you haven't even raced it on the track. Don't try and pass off opinion as fact, that makes you look foolish. How do you know he didn't fuck up his lanch or something, wich could make his run a 15.3 on a hypothetical track, wich would put you around 15.8-9.. Its pretty hard to assume that he ran the same time as his best 1/4 time when he was racing you.. Especially since it wasn't even on a real race track.
Damn why is everyone so negative? I'll go to the fuckin track and get a time slip. Jesus christ I have a mini-me swap against a twin cam motor with less weight and more displacement and I can't get any credit.
SiZ
09-23-2004, 06:08 PM
Because you're speaking opinion like its fact and expecting everyone to give you mad-props on your ultra dope mini-me.. Sorry, it just doesn't work like that for most of us.
And I don't even understand what you want people to give you props about? That you only lost by a bus length? You want us to be proud that you did okay against a guy? Why are you so desperate for our love anyway?
And I don't even understand what you want people to give you props about? That you only lost by a bus length? You want us to be proud that you did okay against a guy? Why are you so desperate for our love anyway?
quiXilver
09-23-2004, 06:49 PM
Because you're speaking opinion like its fact and expecting everyone to give you mad-props on your ultra dope mini-me.. Sorry, it just doesn't work like that for most of us.
And I don't even understand what you want people to give you props about? That you only lost by a bus length? You want us to be proud that you did okay against a guy? Why are you so desperate for our love anyway?
When do I speak opinion like a fact? I just state what happends, you give props to a guy that freakin molded a wooden 4x4 under his hood, and it just seems like everyone is against me that's all. I've come a long way with this car and it just feels nice to express my experiences and then I get shut the fuck down when I post. Anyway, I'm done..again.
And I don't even understand what you want people to give you props about? That you only lost by a bus length? You want us to be proud that you did okay against a guy? Why are you so desperate for our love anyway?
When do I speak opinion like a fact? I just state what happends, you give props to a guy that freakin molded a wooden 4x4 under his hood, and it just seems like everyone is against me that's all. I've come a long way with this car and it just feels nice to express my experiences and then I get shut the fuck down when I post. Anyway, I'm done..again.
Onimacus
09-23-2004, 08:30 PM
Don't worry, everytime I post about a race people give me shit about it too. Its like whenever someone is happy with their car everyone has to say "its not possible" or "the other guy wasn't trying" Or stuff like that.
If you are happy with what you did then everything is cool.. Good job man!
If you are happy with what you did then everything is cool.. Good job man!
Kunundrum
09-23-2004, 08:32 PM
Well i sold my rex. If you really want to know here it goes...
Engine/drivetrain
B16a head
jdm dc sports header
B18c5 shortblock
CTR pistons/b16a rods
Borla cat-back
Generic Cold air intake
Action Clutch
Suspension
Neuspeed springs (1.8 front and 2.0back drop)
Tockico blues
Falken Azenas on stock rims
That set up alone got me into high 13s. You would need binoculars (spelling) to see me ahead of you!
I have to raise a B.S. Flag here ... there is NO Way a N/A b18c motor with 8.4:1 CR ran 13secs... I don't care what you have for bolt ons and how much displacment.
the B16 rods are 0.143" shorter than the B18c ones. Unless you had a turbo on that motor I have to :bs:
Engine/drivetrain
B16a head
jdm dc sports header
B18c5 shortblock
CTR pistons/b16a rods
Borla cat-back
Generic Cold air intake
Action Clutch
Suspension
Neuspeed springs (1.8 front and 2.0back drop)
Tockico blues
Falken Azenas on stock rims
That set up alone got me into high 13s. You would need binoculars (spelling) to see me ahead of you!
I have to raise a B.S. Flag here ... there is NO Way a N/A b18c motor with 8.4:1 CR ran 13secs... I don't care what you have for bolt ons and how much displacment.
the B16 rods are 0.143" shorter than the B18c ones. Unless you had a turbo on that motor I have to :bs:
civicHBsi91
09-23-2004, 09:11 PM
I could run high 13's on a b18a with bolt on's with better tires. whats the problem?
91civicDXdude
09-23-2004, 09:54 PM
I could run high 13's on a b18a with bolt on's with better tires. whats the problem?
i guess you forgot to throw in the nitrous shot you're running which would be the equivalent of boost.
i guess you forgot to throw in the nitrous shot you're running which would be the equivalent of boost.
civicHBsi91
09-23-2004, 09:55 PM
it's a bolt on hush....
quiXilver
09-23-2004, 10:00 PM
Don't worry, everytime I post about a race people give me shit about it too. Its like whenever someone is happy with their car everyone has to say "its not possible" or "the other guy wasn't trying" Or stuff like that.
If you are happy with what you did then everything is cool.. Good job man!
Yea, you pretty much said it. I don't even want to post my car when I get the body kit done and repainted 'cause ppl will prolly just diss the shit out of it or something. :rolleyes:
If you are happy with what you did then everything is cool.. Good job man!
Yea, you pretty much said it. I don't even want to post my car when I get the body kit done and repainted 'cause ppl will prolly just diss the shit out of it or something. :rolleyes:
Kunundrum
09-23-2004, 10:04 PM
GSR block + B16 rods+ CTR pistons + B16 head = 8.4:1 CR = good boost motor not N/A
I'm not one to Rase the B.S. flag much... it might not have been B16 rods maybe they were B18... at witch point it is possible. but not a chance with B16 rods!
BTW mini-me can be quick little cars, like I posted in an other post keep an eye on oil pressure, I have 2 friends who spun cams because of low oil pressure.
I'm not one to Rase the B.S. flag much... it might not have been B16 rods maybe they were B18... at witch point it is possible. but not a chance with B16 rods!
BTW mini-me can be quick little cars, like I posted in an other post keep an eye on oil pressure, I have 2 friends who spun cams because of low oil pressure.
forcefanajd
09-24-2004, 12:08 AM
An Si tranny on an LS motor?!? That doesn't make any fuggin sense.
And don't assume that he only beat you by half a second with a 2.5 car length loss on the street, you haven't even raced it on the track. Don't try and pass off opinion as fact, that makes you look foolish. How do you know he didn't fuck up his lanch or something, wich could make his run a 15.3 on a hypothetical track, wich would put you around 15.8-9.. Its pretty hard to assume that he ran the same time as his best 1/4 time when he was racing you.. Especially since it wasn't even on a real race track.
ummm dude i think he means like a b16 (si) tranny....shorter gears.
and ill have to believe mellowboy here....
And don't assume that he only beat you by half a second with a 2.5 car length loss on the street, you haven't even raced it on the track. Don't try and pass off opinion as fact, that makes you look foolish. How do you know he didn't fuck up his lanch or something, wich could make his run a 15.3 on a hypothetical track, wich would put you around 15.8-9.. Its pretty hard to assume that he ran the same time as his best 1/4 time when he was racing you.. Especially since it wasn't even on a real race track.
ummm dude i think he means like a b16 (si) tranny....shorter gears.
and ill have to believe mellowboy here....
mellowboy
09-24-2004, 12:32 AM
I have to raise a B.S. Flag here ... there is NO Way a N/A b18c motor with 8.4:1 CR ran 13secs... I don't care what you have for bolt ons and how much displacment.
the B16 rods are 0.143" shorter than the B18c ones. Unless you had a turbo on that motor I have to :bs:
Umm hello? I got ctr pistons! From what i've checked it was up 11:8 or something like that.I know its pretty high up there. I'm really suprised your callin me a bullshitter.
the B16 rods are 0.143" shorter than the B18c ones. Unless you had a turbo on that motor I have to :bs:
Umm hello? I got ctr pistons! From what i've checked it was up 11:8 or something like that.I know its pretty high up there. I'm really suprised your callin me a bullshitter.
mellowboy
09-24-2004, 12:33 AM
Let me double check with my boy since hes the one who took it to the machine shop. I remember he took 2 blocks there.
mellowboy
09-24-2004, 01:06 AM
Ok this might sound embarrassing.....it was stock ITR rods :/ He took my other boys block(b16) to the machine shop when i went with him. We took it to have his CTR pistons fit in his b16a rods and i got it all mixed up.
SiZ
09-24-2004, 08:40 AM
Yea, you pretty much said it. I don't even want to post my car when I get the body kit done and repainted 'cause ppl will prolly just diss the shit out of it or something. :rolleyes:
OMG! Wouldn't it be way cooler if they all embraced you and talked about how cool your car is?! When you post up here for peoples opinions, be prepared for all of them not just the "butt-patting" comments. Try not to be so sensitive about it and take it for what it is.. A bunch of complete strangers on an internet webboard. I don't know WTF you're talking about giving props to some guy with a 4X4, but whatever.
If this was a post about how you raced an LS Civic at the track and it showed that you ran .8 seconds slower than him with an 89mph trap speed and 2.2 60' time you're more likley to get props from most of these people, at least then its at a track and your information is documented and real.
And I still don't know WTF you guys think you're talking about an Si tranny on an LS motor.
OMG! Wouldn't it be way cooler if they all embraced you and talked about how cool your car is?! When you post up here for peoples opinions, be prepared for all of them not just the "butt-patting" comments. Try not to be so sensitive about it and take it for what it is.. A bunch of complete strangers on an internet webboard. I don't know WTF you're talking about giving props to some guy with a 4X4, but whatever.
If this was a post about how you raced an LS Civic at the track and it showed that you ran .8 seconds slower than him with an 89mph trap speed and 2.2 60' time you're more likley to get props from most of these people, at least then its at a track and your information is documented and real.
And I still don't know WTF you guys think you're talking about an Si tranny on an LS motor.
quiXilver
09-24-2004, 09:11 AM
OMG! Wouldn't it be way cooler if they all embraced you and talked about how cool your car is?!
If this was a post about how you raced an LS Civic at the track and it showed that you ran .8 seconds slower than him with an 89mph trap speed and 2.2 60' time you're more likley to get props from most of these people, at least then its at a track and your information is documented and real.
And I still don't know WTF you guys think you're talking about an Si tranny on an LS motor.
I never asked for "butt-patting" comments, but nobody likes to be called a bullshitter or put down. I put a lot of hard work into my car, and for me to (MAYBE) only be less than a second away from someone that did a whole fuckin swap with a bigger motor and twin cams, I just might've had a little bit of gratification.
Guy 1: "Hey man I almost had him!"
Guy 2: "Oh you still fuckin suck!"
I don't know what tranny he is running, I'll double check.
If this was a post about how you raced an LS Civic at the track and it showed that you ran .8 seconds slower than him with an 89mph trap speed and 2.2 60' time you're more likley to get props from most of these people, at least then its at a track and your information is documented and real.
And I still don't know WTF you guys think you're talking about an Si tranny on an LS motor.
I never asked for "butt-patting" comments, but nobody likes to be called a bullshitter or put down. I put a lot of hard work into my car, and for me to (MAYBE) only be less than a second away from someone that did a whole fuckin swap with a bigger motor and twin cams, I just might've had a little bit of gratification.
Guy 1: "Hey man I almost had him!"
Guy 2: "Oh you still fuckin suck!"
I don't know what tranny he is running, I'll double check.
Kunundrum
09-24-2004, 11:33 AM
yeah that makes more sense now.
K
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quiXilver
09-24-2004, 01:21 PM
I won't be able to find out untill next meet probably.
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