Our Community is over 1 Million Strong. Join Us.

Grand Future Air Dried Beef Dog Food
Air Dried Dog Food | Real Beef

Grain-Free, Zero Fillers


Figure Skating Judges in Olympics.....


RevHappy Cowboy®
02-12-2002, 02:11 AM
Should be shot, period.

If you watched TV today you would know what I'm talking about. :mad:

kris
02-12-2002, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by RevHappy Cowboy®
Should be shot, period.

If you watched TV today you would know what I'm talking about. :mad:


Why, they did a two year old program. What's so great about that?

Moppie
02-12-2002, 09:18 PM
Oh, please! Its figure skating for gods sake! :rolleyes:


Do you know how much fun the NZ media is having with it. :finger:

taranaki
02-12-2002, 11:32 PM
When the judges start wearing lycra tutus,then I will be interested in them.Until then it just doesn't matter,as Iam not a Canadian!

Rich
02-12-2002, 11:40 PM
Im not really into the whole games thing, but I did hear on the radio the small $hitcake thats brewing.....

Yep, us Canadians got ripped out of a gold.

I say fine, if they dont give us the medal then ok but at least stir up some $hit. All I hear is a bit of whining and very little action.

Its proably a bit harsh, but I would have chosen to pull Canada out of the games and Boycot.

We earned the medal and its quite obvious we should have got it. Its not the medal itself thats important, its the whole fact that the judging is not being done very well.

Us Canadians need to get some balls and take some action when ppl screw with us.

MOFOSHIEET
02-13-2002, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by HuMMerMan
Im not really into the whole games thing, but I did hear on the radio the small $hitcake thats brewing.....

Yep, us Canadians got ripped out of a gold.

I say fine, if they dont give us the medal then ok but at least stir up some $hit. All I hear is a bit of whining and very little action.

Its proably a bit harsh, but I would have chosen to pull Canada out of the games and Boycot.

We earned the medal and its quite obvious we should have got it. Its not the medal itself thats important, its the whole fact that the judging is not being done very well.

Us Canadians need to get some balls and take some action when ppl screw with us.


Like what was posted before. They did old shit. You cant keep doing old stuff and expect to get props for it.

freedivr2
02-13-2002, 03:21 PM
This is what happens when they use volunteers and put them in a subjective role....they have latitude in which they can not only make errors, but make deliberate errors.

That was a major, ugly, and total ripoff. Last night on T.V. they said that the French judge had said that she agreed to trade her vote to the Russian judge for his (or her) vote in another skating event.

OH, REALLY? Well, guess what..........that's better known as an admission to a conspiracy. And the only thing that can overturn a score, or so they've said, is if a judge admits to there have been a conspiracy prior to the event.

Sounds like Canada just "officially" now won the gold in pairs to me (and well deserved....).

Now go do something about it and go get those skaters the gold hardware that they deserve, eh.......

And get those stinking judges replaced!!!!!!!!!!!!! All of them. That's a travesty to competitors who worked for years and years to get to the Olympics. Dang shame....

spnx
02-13-2002, 03:37 PM
It's utter bullshit.

Regardless of whether it's "just figureskating", it's still a gold medal at the Olympics. It's dishonest, and it totally undercuts all of the hard work and effort the athletes have put into their preparation for the competition.

And I doubt there are any Canadians who give a flying f$ck about what the NZ media thinks.

darkness
02-13-2002, 04:07 PM
i have to say I'm on the canadians side on this one.

I saw the two pairs skating. Canada won it outright, no comparison.

if what was said about the French judge is true. the whole figure skating competition is f*cked.

Rich
02-13-2002, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by MOFOSHIEET



They did old shit. You cant keep doing old stuff and expect to get props for it.

I dont understand what you mean. Our team had the better performance hands down, and made fewer mistakes.

Have they used that particular routine before? I dont know, but thats not the point.

I hope to see them make the right decision and give us Canadians the gold.

Sham365
02-13-2002, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by RevHappy Cowboy®
Should be shot, period.

If you watched TV today you would know what I'm talking about. :mad:

I tell ya what though. This figure skating thing has nothing on how they did Roy Jones Jr. in Korea a while back. Remember that?

kris
02-13-2002, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by HuMMerMan


I dont understand what you mean. Our team had the better performance hands down, and made fewer mistakes.

Have they used that particular routine before? I dont know, but thats not the point.

I hope to see them make the right decision and give us Canadians the gold.


Yes, they did a two year old routin.

YogsVR4
02-14-2002, 09:53 AM
Considering all we are hearing about the judges working out deals to give votes to certain teams, it sure seems like the Canadians have a reason to be pissed. Old routine or not, its not right that the atheletes who worked so hard to be at the olympics are not judged on a level playing field. I watched the performances so both of the teams routines were new to me. It was clear the Canadians had a near perfect program while the Russians were a bit off. The ISU needs to clean up their act before they tarnish the sport so badly that people who enjoy it start turning away. Those people who dont like it anyway could give to shits so who cares about them.

KatWoman
02-14-2002, 10:47 AM
I don't know all the details of the story, but in my opinion what does it matter if the Canadian's routine was 2 years old? They obviously were good enough to get into the Olympics, that there should say something.

ales
02-14-2002, 12:29 PM
I wanted to stay out of it but I can't. I don't know what you were watching, but to me the Canadians skated well, but the Russians skated better. For Pete's sake, watch the whole performances again (not just the juicy bits). If you lose, lose graciously.

paean
02-14-2002, 12:50 PM
Actually, I'd say those two DID lose graciously. They are not the ones complaining. It's the other athletes, the fans and those of us who have grown up with winter sports... WE are bitching. It seems the only people not complaining are the skaters. If anyone deserves the right to be pissed off, its them. It was their dream getting crushed. Not ours.

And although I did enjoy both performances, the Canadians had a refinement and attention to detail that the Russians lacked. I hope the next time around, all is "fair". I'd hate to win a medal that _I_ didn't deserve. I'm sure all the gold medalists feel the same way.

spnx
02-14-2002, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by ales
I wanted to stay out of it but I can't. I don't know what you were watching, but to me the Canadians skated well, but the Russians skated better. For Pete's sake, watch the whole performances again (not just the juicy bits). If you lose, lose graciously.

I suppose this illustrates how subjective it is.

However, the French judge has admitted publically to conspiring to agree to mark the Russians higher than the Canadians, regardless of how either peformed.

"Lose graciously"?

Well, if the JUDGE has admitted to corruption, I don't think losing graciously figures ANYWHERE into ANYTHING.

freedivr2
02-14-2002, 11:20 PM
Sorry Ales, but you're way wrong. The guy ruskie almost fell down once and in the spins didn't keep up with his partner. Team eh! didn't make ANY mistakes. That's the facts.

Sorry, but the ruskies didn't deserve the gold. And the chinese didn't deserve the bronze, either.


LOSE GRACIOUSLY? Who said they lost? I say they accepted the silver medal, when they knew they deserved gold, very graciously. But to lose graciously means you lost. They did not. They got hosed out of the gold.

These performances should be virtually WITHOUT a mistake in order to get a medal. Then, the difference between the medals should be the height and number of spins, the speed, you know, like anything else in competition.....whoever is better should win, above and beyond making mistake. You make a glaring mistake or fall, you should be out of medal contention. That's my 2 cents.....

taranaki
02-14-2002, 11:33 PM
this thread is generating a lot of heat...so Iam going to re-post a comment that I made yesterday in Honda OT.

It's a shame how quickly some people can lose their sense of humour over something that has little or no influence on their lives.ITS ICE SKATING FOR CHRISSAKES.If there has been any cheating going on ,it will be exposed in due course.
But perhaps it is time to face up to the fact that the Olympics has become a breeding ground for all that is rotten and corrupt in 'amateur' international sport today.In case anybody has forgotten,the whole event is taking place in a city whose reputation is now tarnished forever by the steps that were taken to ensure selection.Here's a refresher........

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1999/ol...probe/overview/

The Olympics are as bent as a nine dollar note.Anybody who believes that the best athletes always win is naive.

-cy-
02-14-2002, 11:43 PM
Although the lack of change to our lives b/c of bad judging is true, its not our lives we are upset about. These ice skaters have worked their entire life at trying to be the best. For some of them the Olympics are still a pure and important event to them, and winning gold can be one of their life goals. Now when 2 atheletes have put their LIVES into a performance, do better which is obvious to everyone virtually (a poll was done by MSNBC, or something, out of over 200,000 people voting, around 95%-97% believed the Candians deserved the Gold), it is sickening. If you have ever been in a competition that you worked coutnless hours on, put first before MANY other things in your life, and then not gotten when was deserved (especially when almost everyone agrees with you), you can understand this on a SMALL scale as compared to what they went through.

taranaki
02-15-2002, 03:41 AM
I'm sorry but I just don't care about what happens to anybody who is foolish enough to spend their entire life devoted to anything as ridiculous as figure skating,only to put their skills to the test in a crooked and meaningless competition such as the Olympics.If you are entering the Olympics in the true spirit of sport,i.e. getting out there and having a lot of fun,that's cool.But anybody who spends the best years of their lives training for the Olympics in the mistaken belief that they are entering a fair and honest test of skill is,quite frankly ,deluded.And as for being able to throw yourself in the air,twist round three times and land back on the ice without bruising your butt.....it has to be up there with synchronised swimming as one of the most pointless activities known to man.

tazdev
02-15-2002, 03:46 AM
The Olympics used to be about celerbrating sport and having a go.
Like the Kiwi Luger that has no track to practice on and always has a smile at the end of the day. GO KIWI.



Oh yeah the Canadiens were robbed:(

YogsVR4
02-15-2002, 12:57 PM
I'm sorry but I just don't care about what happens to anybody who is foolish enough to spend their entire life devoted to anything as ridiculous as figure skating,only to put their skills to the test in a crooked and meaningless competition such as the Olympics.If you are entering the Olympics in the true spirit of sport,i.e. getting out there and having a lot of fun,that's cool.But anybody who spends the best years of their lives training for the Olympics in the mistaken belief that they are entering a fair and honest test of skill is,quite frankly ,deluded.And as for being able to throw yourself in the air,twist round three times and land back on the ice without bruising your butt.....it has to be up there with synchronised swimming as one of the most pointless activities known to man.

I feel the same way about the NBA - what a joke.

gang$tarr
02-15-2002, 05:01 PM
yeah the canadians deserved the gold....


and taranaki all that stuff you said is your OWN opinion..... most of us disagree with.

Yeah the olympics are corrupted but they shouldn't be, so people are trying to make it right.

And you sound like somebody that hasn't cared about 1 thing in their entire life.
People enjoy doing things like sports, and when they get really good, they want to be the best. Where else are they going to go to showcase their talents? The olympics are the world stage

taranaki
02-15-2002, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by gang$tarr
yeah the canadians deserved the gold....


and taranaki all that stuff you said is your OWN opinion..... most of us disagree with.

Yeah the olympics are corrupted but they shouldn't be, so people are trying to make it right.

And you sound like somebody that hasn't cared about 1 thing in their entire life.
People enjoy doing things like sports, and when they get really good, they want to be the best. Where else are they going to go to showcase their talents? The olympics are the world stage

For some people there is a purpose of living


You are right gang$tarr,it is my own opinion,so get over it! As to your snide remarks about "for some people there is a purpose of living",you are right again...MY purpose of living is to feed,clothe and care for myself,my wife and my children.To have some spoilt and ignorant college kid try to tell me that pissing around on an ice rink actually ought to matter to me is insulting.Unlike yourself Gang$tarr,I have my priorities set out to meet the needs of my family first. To me that is far more important than trying to be the best in the world at anything .If you want to tell me that I need to get a life ,first you can tell me what you have achieved in yours.:mad:

gang$tarr
02-15-2002, 06:13 PM
whoa, i re-read that and that sounded real harsh
i didn't really mean it in that way, i meant that figure skating is their life.... that's what their life circles around.
i'm sure in their opinion, their purpose for living is figure skating. (aswell as family and all the other usual things)


But they got the gold medal today anyway, so it doesn't matter

I was just trying to point out that it doesn't matter if it's figure skating or something else, something they worked hard for and deserve was takin away from them, which isn't right.

just because it doesn't affect a members life directly doesn't mean it's not worth talking about

taranaki
02-15-2002, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by gang$tarr
whoa, i re-read that and that sounded real harsh
i didn't really mean it in that way, i meant that figure skating is their life.... that's what their life circles around.
i'm sure in their opinion, their purpose for living is figure skating. (aswell as family and all the other usual things)


But they got the gold medal today anyway, so it doesn't matter

I was just trying to point out that it doesn't matter if it's figure skating or something else, something they worked hard for and deserve was takin away from them, which isn't right.

just because it doesn't affect a members life directly doesn't mean it's not worth talking about

hey its cool.If I mis-read it it's my bad.....Besides, you caught me on a bad day,I'm majorly pissed at something else right now...see stress release!:D

Add your comment to this topic!


Quality Real Meat Nutrition for Dogs: Best Air Dried Dog Food | Real Beef Dog Food | Best Beef Dog Food