Bring Back the 3000Gt?
3KGT98
09-19-2004, 04:40 PM
What would you guys think if Mitsubishi Brought back the 3000gt? We all know what Nissan has done with their Z's and it seems as if they have earned quite a large profit, seeings how its hard to take a drive longer than 10 mins and not see one. Also there are rumors that Toyota is bringing back the Supra, maybe even releasing it under Lexus (to justify the price tag). So why not just hop on the bandwagon and bring our beautiful cars back, with the same, maybe better perfomance and styling. (If thats possible :p). Please feel free to input, there is also a poll.
GritMaster
09-19-2004, 06:31 PM
I think It'd be cool to bring back the 3K... but then again they'd prolly botch up the styling and it'd be ugly.
It'd also do two other things, one reduce the uniqueness of the cars, and also probbly reduce the value.... Then again it could have the reverse efect as not everyone could afford a new one and would suddenly all want an original. It would be nice to have a true Performance sports coupe from Mitsu, As nice of a little car the Evo is it lacks the coolness of a sleek car like a 3s.... and the eclipse is a potato.
If they got the styling right I think It'd be awesome, I'm not really to worried about them mangaing to get any power.... Those Evos can be pretty quick :)
It'd also do two other things, one reduce the uniqueness of the cars, and also probbly reduce the value.... Then again it could have the reverse efect as not everyone could afford a new one and would suddenly all want an original. It would be nice to have a true Performance sports coupe from Mitsu, As nice of a little car the Evo is it lacks the coolness of a sleek car like a 3s.... and the eclipse is a potato.
If they got the styling right I think It'd be awesome, I'm not really to worried about them mangaing to get any power.... Those Evos can be pretty quick :)
Igovert500
09-19-2004, 08:50 PM
Don't bring it back...look how bad the new Pontiac GTO looks, it's like a Grand Prix on steriods.
Not to mention, in my opinion one need not look further than the 3rd gen eclipses or the evos to realize Mitsu has lost its creativity as far as styling is concerned.
I wouldn't want them to ruin the 3S's by attempting to bring them back to make a profit. Not to mention the reason they stopped making them was the high price tag and lack of profit in comparison to their competition.
Not to mention, in my opinion one need not look further than the 3rd gen eclipses or the evos to realize Mitsu has lost its creativity as far as styling is concerned.
I wouldn't want them to ruin the 3S's by attempting to bring them back to make a profit. Not to mention the reason they stopped making them was the high price tag and lack of profit in comparison to their competition.
Jag1718
09-20-2004, 12:35 AM
Sorry but I also agree...let the 3k rest in peace. Great car and it had it's time around. Reviving cars is not what great cars should need. I love our cars but having more of them around is not what I want. I fell in love with the car because of the rarity, the body style, and because it seems like a great overall car for a sports car. I consider them pretty good for gas mileage compared to others, great handling, and it's all about the AWD.
The car would not be the same, more expensive, and sales would once again kill it off. It's too expensive brand new and I believe that killed it off in the first place.
The car would not be the same, more expensive, and sales would once again kill it off. It's too expensive brand new and I believe that killed it off in the first place.
Gateway
09-20-2004, 01:03 AM
I prefer keeping the car dead.
Musashi3000GT
09-20-2004, 12:25 PM
well isnt Mitsubishi going out of business anyway? so fat chance, but even if they could I still rather they would not. great car, great looks, awsome power and features, leave it be.
YogsVR4
09-20-2004, 12:46 PM
Mitsu isn't going out of business. They're one of the largest companies in the world. Its possible they could get out of the car market (which is important) but they rival GM in overall size.
They won't come out with the 3K again. Anything they do will only be a shell of its former glory.
They won't come out with the 3K again. Anything they do will only be a shell of its former glory.
Mitsu95
09-20-2004, 04:42 PM
I absolutely love my 3000GT and the thought of the option of being able to purchase a brand new one just off the line is thrilling, but then I wake up and realize that my yearly sallary is no where near what a new 3000 GT would cost. So, unless I suddenly come up with an excessive extra amount of money that is burning a hole in my pocket, I'll stick with my '95. Besides I already see entirely too many of them driving around as it is (I live near the Manheim Auto Auction).
Jag1718
09-20-2004, 04:49 PM
Yah, I mean a lot of people can't really afford a brand new vr4 off the line and i don't think it's as a popular because of it is an imported twin turbo...Generally, you think of the people in their teens and 20s actually wanting to drive a vr4 over a vette or any other domestic car around that price. I know some of u are up there in age but it seems more like the people in the older age group would prefer bmws, porshes, and vettes over the car...although they don't know what they're missing.
On another note, we already do rival 350zs if u are talking about a race...unless u were meaning in sales.
On another note, we already do rival 350zs if u are talking about a race...unless u were meaning in sales.
<T>
09-26-2004, 03:46 AM
They need to bring it back, just not right now. from 91-99 was the era of big plush sports cars, now is the era of tiny, cheap, and efficient turbo 4-cylinder sport compacts.
It's like fashion, it will cycle around and people will want once again to describe their car as "powerful" not "zippy" ;) Then it will be a welcomed revival, instead of a reopened wound
It's like fashion, it will cycle around and people will want once again to describe their car as "powerful" not "zippy" ;) Then it will be a welcomed revival, instead of a reopened wound
pr0ject01
09-26-2004, 12:59 PM
Dodge and Mitsubishi should do like a.. one year thing. Like in 2010 they should just bring back the stealth and the 3000gt just one year, and make it the badass car on the market .. stock. The would be kinda cool, and dont forget the stealth! :swear:
3KGT98
09-27-2004, 12:28 AM
Wow. im suprised a lot of you guys don't think they should bring it back. I guess it would sort of destroy the uniqueness of our cars. That would be nice if they brought it back for a year or in a while when performance was number one on everyone's list.
<T>
09-27-2004, 07:14 AM
Wow. im suprised a lot of you guys don't think they should bring it back. I guess it would sort of destroy the uniqueness of our cars. That would be nice if they brought it back for a year or in a while when performance was number one on everyone's list.
yeah right now it's gas mileage and a twin turbo V6 that must be filled with premium isn't exactly hitting that demographic
yeah right now it's gas mileage and a twin turbo V6 that must be filled with premium isn't exactly hitting that demographic
Zero8985
09-28-2004, 02:51 PM
I dunno...
the vr4 got 18 city and 24 highway.
The Evo 8 gets 18 city and 26 highway.
The Sti got 18 city and 24 highway.
The CTS-V is getting 16 city and 25 highway currently.
The 300-C is getting 17 city and 25 highway.
All based off of MSN.com
Basically, the small efficient 4 cylinders aren't doing any better at gas mileage than the twin-turbo v6's, or the High performance V8's. And If they were, and Demographics were the case, either of those last prolly wouldn't be on the market.
the vr4 got 18 city and 24 highway.
The Evo 8 gets 18 city and 26 highway.
The Sti got 18 city and 24 highway.
The CTS-V is getting 16 city and 25 highway currently.
The 300-C is getting 17 city and 25 highway.
All based off of MSN.com
Basically, the small efficient 4 cylinders aren't doing any better at gas mileage than the twin-turbo v6's, or the High performance V8's. And If they were, and Demographics were the case, either of those last prolly wouldn't be on the market.
youngvr4
09-28-2004, 03:03 PM
yeah, on our trip from washington to arkansas, my dad was getting 1 mile per gallon more than i.
that was a fun trip
that was a fun trip
ikOnone
09-29-2004, 07:16 PM
i very hesitently (sp?) voted yes. i think they would screw it up (mitsu has been screwing up a lot lately other than the evo coming to america) but i have allways thought it would be really cool if they brought it back with:
a ~3.8L V8
a drivetrain that was AWD and could handel 1000 hp (maybe variable like the skyline's)
stock turbos were TD05 about the size of a 14B
stock injectors were 550 cc
stock intercoolers a bit bigger
99 style with slightly updated interior and exterior pieces, nothing drastic, maybe some aluminum trim and a hood scoop
slightly lighter, maybe in the 3500 lb range
2 seats
and built to compete with vipers, not 350Z's. new price in about the $65k range or less if possible. that would be my dream car right there. :biggrin:
a ~3.8L V8
a drivetrain that was AWD and could handel 1000 hp (maybe variable like the skyline's)
stock turbos were TD05 about the size of a 14B
stock injectors were 550 cc
stock intercoolers a bit bigger
99 style with slightly updated interior and exterior pieces, nothing drastic, maybe some aluminum trim and a hood scoop
slightly lighter, maybe in the 3500 lb range
2 seats
and built to compete with vipers, not 350Z's. new price in about the $65k range or less if possible. that would be my dream car right there. :biggrin:
Thourun
09-29-2004, 07:26 PM
It would be very hard to make it lighter yet have a biger engine and tranny.
ikOnone
10-01-2004, 12:08 AM
the tranny would not necessarily need to be very much bigger, just made with better material/design (this goes for tranny, t-case, etc) and, well, yea, the engine would need to be a bit bigger. i do not think the tranny itself is acctually that big of a problem (other than part availability and mitsu techs that know what to do with it) but there are a lot of driveline componenets that could fail due to power that need to be redesigned. but i think it is overall a cost and luxury question. they could do things like CF body panels, aluminum drive shaft, lighter (and probably more expensive) materials for a lot of stuff, lighter seats (less power seat movement) less power options overall (seats, pop up lights, active aero, automatic windows, etc.) also things like sound deadening material and sterio could be eliminated, there is a lot of ways to reduce weight, most come at the cost of comfort either to you or your wallet, but i would be willing to sacrifice a little of each for a lighter car. then again, i said the price i would expect would be in the $65k range... a good deal more than any stock 3/S has been sold for.
what i mean to get at is that it would not be very hard at all, you would just need to make sacrifices.
what i mean to get at is that it would not be very hard at all, you would just need to make sacrifices.
StealthModifier
10-02-2004, 10:54 PM
sorry this is off topic ,but ikonone, whats the tint on ur windows?
ikOnone
10-02-2004, 11:01 PM
sorry this is off topic ,but ikonone, whats the tint on ur windows?
you know, i have no idea. my car is at the shop now so i can't look at it and they were that color when i got the car so i am not sure. heck, i am really not even sure if they are tinted or if it was just the light in that pic. sorry i couldn't be of more help.
you know, i have no idea. my car is at the shop now so i can't look at it and they were that color when i got the car so i am not sure. heck, i am really not even sure if they are tinted or if it was just the light in that pic. sorry i couldn't be of more help.
StealthModifier
10-03-2004, 12:16 AM
its alright :)
Technical_Automan
10-04-2004, 12:16 PM
I say in about 5-8 years from now, a 3500GT, Supra, 380Z, and maybe a RX-9 (or faster RX-8) should be made, all w/ twin-turbos, and somewhere in the 400-430 HP range. If I remember right the Mustang's will be in that range around then, it would be some good competition. :bananasmi
del soul
10-04-2004, 09:06 PM
im all for it but mitsubishi would have to be very careful not to gay it out. I still dont know what theyre thinking with the current gen eclipse. YUCK how could you follow up the legend that the 2nd gen was with something that looks like it should have pontiac badges?
StealthModifier
10-05-2004, 07:21 PM
Im for it as well, but if its gonna look bad like the new eclipses then that wouldnt be good :( but if they stick to the same body lines, but a newer look, it shouldnt be too bad
VAD0R
10-14-2004, 10:35 PM
But I think the future of the 3000GT, if there is any, might just lye in this concept. :evillol:
http://www.fast-autos.net/mitsubishi/mitsubishiconcepte.html
http://www.fast-autos.net/mitsubishi/mitsubishiconcepte.html
StealthModifier
10-14-2004, 10:53 PM
i doubt that car will ever be made, i heard that car cost a million bucks.. so def. a concept :)
VAD0R
10-15-2004, 01:00 AM
The think is most great sports cars cost mucho denero when their concepts are initially concieved. The question is how much are you going to bring it down through mass production. Plus it is not like Mitsubishi will take every feature from that concept, I am mostly counting on them implementing that hybrid AWD technology.
Plus price is not as much of an issue when the sports car you trying to bring back was marketed as a 80k, quasi Porsche , semi or full exotic (your opintion.) :naughty:
Plus price is not as much of an issue when the sports car you trying to bring back was marketed as a 80k, quasi Porsche , semi or full exotic (your opintion.) :naughty:
GritMaster
10-15-2004, 02:34 AM
3/S's were marketed at 63k MAX and that was for the Spyders.
also the new eclipse is being based largely off that design I've heard. so it'll prolly end up costing about 25-35k.
also the new eclipse is being based largely off that design I've heard. so it'll prolly end up costing about 25-35k.
talskinyguy
10-15-2004, 03:53 AM
Thats the eclipse concept, it even says so right at the top of the page. Front 3.8 V6 and a rear electric engine, not designed to help fuel economy as much as it acts like a "turbo" and gets a nice liittle boost of power over a certain rpm.
ikOnone
10-15-2004, 09:08 PM
Thats the eclipse concept, it even says so right at the top of the page. Front 3.8 V6 and a rear electric engine, not designed to help fuel economy as much as it acts like a "turbo" and gets a nice liittle boost of power over a certain rpm.
i was just about to say the same thing. damn, just when you thought the eclipse couldn't look any worse after the 3rd gen, mitsu gays it up a little more. that thing, the pt cruser, and the miata need to have a slap fight to determine once and for all what the gayest car in the universe is.
i was just about to say the same thing. damn, just when you thought the eclipse couldn't look any worse after the 3rd gen, mitsu gays it up a little more. that thing, the pt cruser, and the miata need to have a slap fight to determine once and for all what the gayest car in the universe is.
Thourun
10-15-2004, 09:14 PM
Lol, i bet the miata would win, at lest it's low. The PT is in a sissy class all it's own. I think mitsu is trying to dominate the young female demographic, at least thats what seems to have happned to all my female friends, there all like "ohh it's sooooo cute! Why would you buy that big loud thing?".
InfestedShadow
11-26-2004, 03:38 AM
hell no
why:
well, it's fun to have at least 1 car that not everyone think to get,
so, that's what I want, unique car, not extreme high price, pretty cool looking.
so if they restart the production, the car wont be unique anymore...
:2cents: my 2 cents
why:
well, it's fun to have at least 1 car that not everyone think to get,
so, that's what I want, unique car, not extreme high price, pretty cool looking.
so if they restart the production, the car wont be unique anymore...
:2cents: my 2 cents
Igovert500
11-30-2004, 07:58 PM
Please don't bring back old threads...this one was started 2 months ago...if you have nothing new to add, please let it go
makcross
11-30-2004, 08:32 PM
i've also heard mazda is thinking about returning the rx7 some time in the future.....can so 1 tell me its not turn? LOL
Gateway
11-30-2004, 08:36 PM
^^ ahem.....Mazda RX8.
sorry for not letting it go Igo, but I just can't not do it. Lock it :)
sorry for not letting it go Igo, but I just can't not do it. Lock it :)
Igovert500
11-30-2004, 08:40 PM
I think anything that could be said, has been said
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