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destroyed a 3rd gen eclipse


TatII
09-18-2004, 02:20 PM
i was coming back from my other job last night and on my way to a bar that all my friends are drinking at. it is around 2 a.m. in the morning and as i got off the highway i see this black 00-04 eclipse with 18 inch chrome wheels. he had a AEM sticker on the back window and i'm thinking hmmm i wonder if he wants to run. so we both were at a light with a long straight with no one in front for about a 1/4 mile. he looks over to my car and sees me. light turns green and i just take off normally, i shifted to at 2500rpm like i would normally do and i stay there . well the guy decides to floor it so i floor it at well. initially it was about even becasue my car off boost was equal to his car being floored. once boost hits in 2nd gear i began to pull on him like crazy. by the time i hit around 80mph in third i was bus lenghts ahead of him.

this makes me wonder if he was a v6 or not. i highly doubt it because if they are then they are really freaking slow. i also didn't hear his AEM intake so that sticker was probrably for something random. and i didn't hear his car peel whcih means hes probrably a auto. oh wellz. he didn't know i was turboed anyways cuase i had all my gauges hidden. he probrably found out when i blew off after i past him.

now i wish i would've payed more close attention to the rear badge on his car. and i'm sure if i went all the way to 100mph i would be soo far ahead i wouldn't even be able to keep count of how many bus lenghts i put on him. and at the next light he turned to some side street behind me. lolz

97Lude
09-18-2004, 02:43 PM
My dad has a 03 eclipse v6 5 speed and it is pretty quick. btw good kill.

200SXGTi-R
09-18-2004, 03:08 PM
who are you..? are with importfanatics...are you in NY?

gear5
09-18-2004, 04:46 PM
nice story...
i was crusing the interstate the other night when i came upon a
sweet eclipse...i blinked my lights at him and automaticly he sped up...
got on my side (mind you,were already going about 70mph)
and we sot off!...weaving thru cars around us...
once we got back together,he got in front of me and blinked HIS
lights...then he darted off...this guy had an AEM setup too.
and his car looked as if he was a true racer!(no expensive sound system,no unessesary stuff)...just turbo, intake,exhaust,lowering,
wheels and tires....and some decals and angel eyes for style.
now that is what i call a racer.
so im'a only do the same with my ride...
no catoon looking car with all style and no speed (know what i mean?)
us racers gotta be raw! just like japan!....check out the wangan
expressway...raw racing...japan style....thats why i do my racing on
the interstate (i-95)....
if you see a sweet ride on the interstate about 11:00pm...
approch it...and blink those lights...if there down....youre in for the
tightest race ever!...mine was so long, that we actually went outta
state...totally not paying attention to my exit....
write me back!...peace out.

samandiar
09-19-2004, 01:31 AM
Hmmm... weaving through traffic doesn't sound like a very good idea to me...

TatII
09-19-2004, 02:30 AM
yes i am also on importfanatix.com i'm S14_tat on there and yes i am also from nyc.

also i do not doubt that V6 eclipse in stick form is quick. however that was definitly not stick so i question which model it is. be reguardless i should still kill a v6 eclipse stick by around 8-10 cars by 100mph. but this car was beaten by that many car lenghts by just 80mph. if i had another 20mph i would've destroyed him by another 5-6 cars since i pull harder up top as he was getting smaller and smaller at a quicker rate cause his pull died out after 60 mph period.

turbo2nr
09-19-2004, 04:59 PM
hey tat stop picking on little eclipses and come mess with some one your own size :evillol: (just not me :icon16: ) lolz nice kill man.. probably was a 4clyd..poser..well still not a bad way to waste some gass.. but leave the slower cars for me.. lolz ne way go race a supra or something.. :icon16: nice kill
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SpaceManSpiff
09-19-2004, 05:11 PM
Nah, I'm curious how he'd do against a nicely modded dsm or vr4 though. Nice kill.

turbo2nr
09-19-2004, 05:12 PM
i belive he destroyed a gs-t 95 shape one day.. nicely modded one.. but you have to ask tat about that 1
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gotti123
09-19-2004, 09:36 PM
hey, i drive a gt v6 eclipse, 5 speed with an AEM cai, its got pretty good power and pickup, and is pretty quick....if it was a 4 cylinder one though and youve got 232 hp to the ground, not only would you beat me by alot, you should of just anhiliated him, it probably looked like he was going in reverse, they are slow as balls

TatII
09-19-2004, 11:09 PM
hahah exactly. plus he got 18 inch chrome wheels which hurts it big time. i did race a GS-T with a intake and boost restrictor removed. however he was only making 13 psi. his strongest 2 gears were even with my weakest 2 gears, which is 1st and 2nd. once i hit 3rd i pulled like 5 cars on him.

10sec-Hopeful
09-20-2004, 10:35 AM
Nice Kill man, and I think he would put up fairly well with a nicely modded dsm...VR4...dunno. I would like to watch though.

Again, nice Kill. :smile:

LandoAWD
09-20-2004, 10:44 AM
I think he would put up fairly well with a nicely modded dsm
THe next person who says "nicely modded DSM" in a thread about beating a 2000+ will get an apple and an orange mailed to them for comparison purposes. :mad: ;)

Congrats on beating the 2000+ Eclipse.

Sorry, by the way, but I have trouble saying "3g". It would imply similarities with 1st and 2nd gens.

gotti123
09-20-2004, 10:45 AM
you got any pics of your 240sx...one of my favorite cars

TatII
09-20-2004, 11:35 AM
i do not have recent pics of it. however i really think i should take a pic of it after i wash the car. lolz it looks pretty different from what the other guys in the forum saw a few months back. the only person here that has seen my car in person is turbo2nr. pm me and i'll take a pic of my car and send it to your email.

crunchymilk55
09-20-2004, 06:08 PM
calling the 2000+ Eclipse's DSM's hurts me.

It's just not right

macder
09-20-2004, 11:05 PM
DSM's are 1990 - 1999, anything after that is crap and slow

Sleepr awd
09-21-2004, 04:16 PM
same name...so it is a 3rd generation of the car...they just changed everything...ne ways good kill!! our cars are quick but not many in ur calibre range

and honestly, everyone that complains about the 3rd generation is just jealous... and 3g's are in the 11's for all of you taht don't think its fast

LandoAWD
09-21-2004, 04:52 PM
and honestly, everyone that complains about the 3rd generation is just jealous... and 3g's are in the 11's for all of you taht don't think its fast:rofl::shakehead I think not.

kman10587
09-21-2004, 04:59 PM
Yeah, hate to say it but the 1st/2nd gen. Eclipse is a hell of a lot faster.

97Tsi
09-21-2004, 05:21 PM
and honestly, everyone that complains about the 3rd generation is just jealous... and 3g's are in the 11's for all of you taht don't think its fast

I'm not jealous. I mean, nothing against the late model eclipses, but I'm gonna have to agree with landoAWD on this one, they really can't be called DSM's.

As for being in the 11's....what about the countless amount of 1st gen and 2nd gen DSM's that are posting ET's in the single digits?

LandoAWD
09-21-2004, 05:26 PM
I didn't want this to become a 2000+ vs DSM battle, I was just referring to the use of "3g". I apologize for the panties I bunched.

3kgt8
09-22-2004, 01:08 AM
whats with all the hate against the 3g eclipses? if you dont like them well too bad get on with life. they might not be like the 1 and 2 generation of eclipses but they can still be made fast. A gt eclipse can compete against any car if modded right, so please have respect towards cars even if you dont like them.

3kgt8
09-22-2004, 01:14 AM
whats with all the hate against the 3g eclipses? if you dont like them well too bad get on with life. they might not be like the 1 and 2 generation of eclipses but they can still be made fast. A gt eclipse can compete against any car if modded right, so please have respect towards cars even if you dont like them.

3kgt8
09-22-2004, 01:29 AM
sorry i dont know what the hell happened.

TatII
09-22-2004, 11:45 AM
hahah triple post. are you tryin to scheme something here?

also i think the 3rd gen eclipse appeals more to the newer generation of people and they are generally younger people. however since the older people grew up with the 1st 2 gen's when they saw the 3rd gen, they were shocked cause it was just sooo different. i use to think it was a horrendous looking car. but after seeing it for a few years its starting to look okay.

and yes the 3rd gen eclipse still has alot of chrysler under pinnings. the 3rd gen eclispe and the chrysler sebring have identical interiors, along with chassis and engine. so i guess its still sort of a DSM. even though it doesn't say it on the I.D. plate in the engine bay.

gotti123
09-22-2004, 01:18 PM
As for being in the 11's....what about the countless amount of 1st gen and 2nd gen DSM's that are posting ET's in the single digits?

Hmmm...the 3rd gens have been out for not even 5 years yet....yours have been out for 15 plus.....give any stock turboed car that much time and i hope thier would be times like that.

97Tsi
09-22-2004, 03:50 PM
Hmmm...the 3rd gens have been out for not even 5 years yet....yours have been out for 15 plus.....give any stock turboed car that much time and i hope thier would be times like that.

I don't want to make it seem like I hate the late model eclipse, cause I don't. I feel, just like many other people, that the new eclipses are so different, it's hard to put them under the DSM category. And just like ANY car out there, if you have the time, money, resources etc, the new eclipses can be made just as fast as any car out there.

And obviously, a turbo car is going to respond better to mods, so the 1st and 2nd gen. DSM's have the advantage there. But I don't see time as much of an issue.

Look at the SRT-4, that's been out less time than the new eclipse. Dodge didn't have years invested in that. Again, It's a turboed motor, so it's going to have the advantage, but time didn't really matter.

3kgt8
09-22-2004, 04:08 PM
lets just leave at, 3g eclipses are totally different than their older 1g and 2g brothers. they might not appeal to some,but thats the whole point. everyone has different tastes.

gotti123
09-22-2004, 04:10 PM
you cant put them under dsm, whoever says that is an idiot.....personally i love my 2001 gt eclipse and i bought it because it was totally different and nobody had them.. but now everyone does.

97Tsi
09-22-2004, 04:33 PM
lets just leave at, 3g eclipses are totally different than their older 1g and 2g brothers. they might not appeal to some,but thats the whole point. everyone has different tastes.

That sounds like a good way of putting it.

And gotti123, I have my opinion and you have yours, I'm sorry if I said something you didn't like or were offended by, that wasn't my intention.

youngvr4
09-22-2004, 04:57 PM
you cant put them under dsm, whoever says that is an idiot.....personally i love my 2001 gt eclipse and i bought it because it was totally different and nobody had them.. but now everyone does.

and i mean everyone does

Sleepr awd
09-22-2004, 09:47 PM
dont' forget everybody's friends and their sisters

otter7467
09-22-2004, 10:17 PM
Yeah but the one in 2 fast 2 furious was sick yo.

kidding kidding. :sorry: I know i am going to get roasted for that joke, but i had to

The 3g eclipses aren't a bad car though. I agree that i am getting more used to the looks of them as time goes on. To go from awd turbo to a heavier slower car still seems nuts.

Sleepr awd
09-23-2004, 03:59 PM
it does have a greater horsepower potential though, your starting from a 2.0l 4 cyl first, but the 3.0l V6 is a big step up, sure its heavy, but start pushing similar boost to a 2g turbo, and your kickin' everyone's ass on the track. yeah its heavier, but they designed it a little better (not a whole lot) its still got kinks to work out...i would love to get boosted...:D

gotti123
09-23-2004, 04:38 PM
97tsi, its straight, i wasnt offended by anything you said, i was just talking in general...not geared toward anyone

LandoAWD
09-23-2004, 05:30 PM
it does have a greater horsepower potential though, your starting from a 2.0l 4 cyl first, but the 3.0l V6 is a big step up, sure its heavy, but start pushing similar boost to a 2g turbo, and your kickin' everyone's ass on the track. yeah its heavier, but they designed it a little better (not a whole lot) its still got kinks to work out...i would love to get boosted...:DI'll keep that in mind. Say hello to the 3-5 people in the 11s for me.

As far as design goes, VERY FEW forced induction motors are as well built as the 4g63T.

Sleepr awd
09-23-2004, 07:37 PM
i forgot how the saying went...replacement...displacement? uhhh..hmmmmmmm i think u kno what one i'm talking about, sure i know its designed really well and i wanted one forever, but the best i've heard of out of the motor is 600hp,
3.0l v6 VR-4's do that and more and its the same engine 6g72 i'd like to hope mine'll go that far without having to be one of the best designed :D

i'll say hi when i meet them

gotti123
09-23-2004, 07:40 PM
ya but ive heard and seen so many problems with the turbo motor...one of the reasons why i didnt buy a dsm.

Sleepr awd
09-23-2004, 07:49 PM
like crankwalk...i wasn't interested in the 1g, i like a car that looks good stock and isn't ALL go the 2g is the other option and the prices are so close to the 3g's and the 3g's had less miles...like a 99 GS-T was selling at the dealership i got my 2003 at for 16k w/ 60k miles and i got mine for 18.5k, w/ warranty for 100k miles new
if i could get away w/ it, i'd take a 2g eclipse turbo w/ similar miles to my 3g in a heartbeat...the fact that those 2g's dont' exist make it difficult

LandoAWD
09-24-2004, 02:08 PM
sure i know its designed really well and i wanted one forever, but the best i've heard of out of the motor is 600hp,
3.0l v6 VR-4's do that and more and its the same engine 6g72
:uhoh: :disappoin

200SXGTi-R
09-24-2004, 04:23 PM
i think ....of all the turbo 4cyl factory motors and some of the na ones....the 4G63 was good but the rest were better. its good but the SR20DET, 3SGTE, B18C5, SR20VE-N1 were a little better. talk to most people who build cars , they don't like DSM for some of there notorious problems. those who build them and run low e.t.'s worked out the kinks and just stay with them out of loyalty IMO.

forcefanajd
09-24-2004, 04:41 PM
THe next person who says "nicely modded DSM" in a thread about beating a 2000+ will get an apple and an orange mailed to them for comparison purposes. :mad: ;)

Congrats on beating the 2000+ Eclipse.

Sorry, by the way, but I have trouble saying "3g". It would imply similarities with 1st and 2nd gens.

technically they are 5th gens.
you have the wedge style with flip headlights...89-91
they you have the same body style with regular (non-flip) headlights...92-94
then you have newer body style... 95-96
then the same body restyled slightly... 97-99
then the new ones...00+

maybe im the only one that sees it that way but....thats the way ive always looked at them.

200SXGTi-R
09-24-2004, 05:28 PM
it does go by how you look at them. it goes by what they are. 3 different chassis = 3 generations. minor exterior and interior and slight motor changes etc don't count. if they did every car would have tons of genrations. when the chassis(code) and/or total body and/or motor changes, then its considered a different gen.

89-94 ...Gen I
95-99 ...Gen II
00 + ...GenIII

Sleepr awd
09-25-2004, 02:52 AM
and there is another change for the 2003, we have molded foglights instead of ones just sitting in the mouth of the car

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