Panda vs Z06... kinda sorta...

Gah, No Corvette will race me (just haven't found one yet)... except this guy.


And this particular race wasn't really a race...

Allow me to explain.


I left a local HondaTech meet in Huntington Beach kinda pissed, cause when I left the car totally would not shift to 2nd gear. It was as if it was non-existant. Which made me look like a total newb. Albeit me being not used to the car yet played a factor into it, but it felt like a mechanical 'jam'.

Anywho, after riding the limiter for a few seconds. I let off... just go straight to 3rd and just drive normally. Me and my buddy were like "wtf happened?". So we're cruising, make a quick stop by our local hangout looking for a buddy of ours, He's no where to be seen.

So I figure I'll take the coast route home, but upon reaching the signal. I see a Corvette turning left onto the street I'd normally take (the non coast route).

Me: Nevermind, we'll turn right.
Jason: Ah the Corvette.
Me: Lets hope.

I take the right at the signal instead of going straight down the road to the coast, and a few moments later here comes the Vette. It's a dark blue Z06 with a middle aged man on the phone. I was kinda dissapointed that he was on the phone. But his Z06 sounded awesome, had aftermarket exhaust for sure. What kind? No clue, but it was music to my ears.

A few lights down the way, we catch a red light. He gets off the phone. I blipped the throttle to get his attention, he looks over and I point forward and nod my head toward the empty road.

He smiled and laughed, and declined. I laughed too, and I motioned that it was cool.

Light goes green, and I take off normally and shift to 2nd gear.

Jason: I'm so expecting him to fly past you.
Me: Yeah, seriously.

Z06 Driver:WAHHHHH!!

When he got on it, it scared me... his car was so fucking loud.

But, I mashed the pedal in 2nd gear. Boost hit instantly, and I stopped his charge immediately. The car didn't spin or anything, probably because I had a passenger? haha.. no clue but she hooked. The car kinda torqued over to the left and towards his lane. I shifted into 3rd gear with a flawless shift which suprised me. Revs hardly dropped... and we pulled like a sumbitch!

I let off, me and my buddy were like "Holy shit..."

The Z06 comes up behind me, and comes to my right. His window comes down...

Z06 Driver: You've got a quick car! Very nice!
Jason: You too!
Me: Thanks, your car is awesome!
Z06 Driver: Thanks!

We exchange thumbs ups and waves. And he turns off onto a residential side street.

Then we did realised I was only boosting 10psi. But because of what we now think is a bad wastegate, it would spike to 14psi but fall back to 10psi.

When we found this out, our faces were both: :eek:



I cannot wait to run a Vette for reals... each time it gets closer. Maybe next time? :lol:

Nice race man, sounds friggen awesome.

Have you ever been to San Clemente near San Diego? I will be down there this winter, and I got a buddy with a Z06, I'll see if we could set something up so we could meet and you could get a real race. Not positive, but I should be heading down there near early December.

Nice, like I've been telling my friends.

I have doubts I'd be able to kill a Z06 with a competant driver behind the wheel, Had this guy been out for 'blood' so-to-speak. I think he would of skated right past me, but I would of been giving him a run for his money.


Right till I hit the stock 125mph speed limiter of the SR20 ecu. :lol::loser:

Gotta get that removed...

Honestly though, Z06s have the potiential to be a 12 second car with a good driver. I have my doubts. But you never know, I'll definately think about it though!

PM me if you get any info or something. :biggrin:

vids playa, need to see that 3rd gear shine!

Just called him to tell him the good news, (that being that he has someone to race against)....Says he traded it in a few months back.

He says he has a 310 HP RX-7 right now (1996). Says he would be glad to race you, but wants to wait till I come down. He got slammed pretty hard by the local bacon down there and is coolin' down for awhile. I'll let you know if anything turns up. :biggrin:

Just called him to tell him the good news, (that being that he has someone to race against)....Says he traded it in a few months back.

He says he has a 310 HP RX-7 right now (1996). Says he would be glad to race you, but wants to wait till I come down. He got slammed pretty hard by the local bacon down there and is coolin' down for awhile. I'll let you know if anything turns up. :biggrin:



Boo... no Z06? Ah well, life is life. A FD3S Rx-7? Nice... that seems a bit more my pace. (probably not) But I'd give it ago! :biggrin:



vids playa, need to see that 3rd gear shine!


I know I know, I'm working on it. :lol:

DAMM YOU you boosterd guy.. good kill
whats up with all the turbo cars having problems lately? thats not cool.. get you that boost problem fixed..
have fun and i want to see some vids
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whats up with all the turbo cars having problems lately? thats not cool..

Quiet you!!! Don't jinx my KA-T project. In two weeks, it is going as smooth as possible.lol Nice kill and I hope you get those problems fixed.

so did the problem witht he second gear go away or no?

i dunno... 310rwhp in an FD

i had a hard time keeping up with a tuned FD at the last race... you think you can handle it? :P

and yes, what's up with 2nd gear?!

man I feel gay for this.

what's up with 2nd gear?!

He was granny shiftin', not double clutchin' like he should.

man I feel gay for this.



He was granny shiftin', not double clutchin' like he should.



:lol: hahah... yeah, must of been it. huh? me = :loser:


I dunno, it was a freak thing. But it hasn't done it sence. It was like somebody just deleted 2nd gear. :screwy:

Good run. Z06's are monsters. Unfortunately alot of the drivers are not exactly too skilled. Don't feel like a newb with your car not allowing you to go into second. I just had a run with Danno at California overcrowded Speedway (We could only get one run in btw). I went for second and it wouldn't let me go.... period...... That blew my only chance for revenge at the track. We did run from a roll though, and I faired much better. We only got 2 runs in at Speedway. I don't think i'll be going there again (2 runs took about 5 1/2 hours).

Nice job. I think the new z06 vettes will run mid 12s with good drivers. Not sure whether the one you kinda-raced was a new one or not.

Very sexy car you're got there, redneck. I was thinking about an sr20 240z or 510 at some point (the only way to have a smog legal sr20 in cali is to stick it into an old car, I think.)

Nice job. I think the new z06 vettes will run mid 12s with good drivers. Not sure whether the one you kinda-raced was a new one or not.

Very sexy car you're got there, redneck. I was thinking about an sr20 240z or 510 at some point (the only way to have a smog legal sr20 in cali is to stick it into an old car, I think.)



It was definately a 2002+ Z06, it had the 405hp badge on the fender. I sat looking at it at the light...

I dunno, it was a freak thing. But it hasn't done it sence. It was like somebody just deleted 2nd gear. :screwy:


hahahahaha... :hits delete key:
Say bye bye to 3rd. Muahahahaha.

Thats kinda weird that it hasn't happened again. Maybe try some Syncromesh or what are you running now? Oh well, shit happens. Good luck

hahahahaha... :hits delete key:
Say bye bye to 3rd. Muahahahaha.

Thats kinda weird that it hasn't happened again. Maybe try some Syncromesh or what are you running now? Oh well, shit happens. Good luck



What ya mean say bye bye to 3rd? The tranny shifts perfectly, except for that one time.

Good race, mister. Your car definitely is a monster in disguise... Welp... Since upgrading to an external WG would kinda be a waste.. Me thinks its time for turbo upgrade.. yuppppppppp....

Turbo upgrade.

damn you friggin' did that to a zo6....sheeeeeit i'm kinda scared now. whenever you (redneck383) come out to AZ turn down ur boost k? :) j/k

Ya know, when it was running *much as it will soon* mine boosts to 15, and creeps to 10.

GOOD KILL! HAHAHAHA< YESSSS.....

......

well...some guys to my right are looking at SR info....must spy....

It was definately a 2002+ Z06, it had the 405hp badge on the fender. I sat looking at it at the light...

RedNeck383 LOL, you have got be kidding me !!!!

How come you can beat all these great cars with no problems at all ?!? A Z06 Vette ??? Ever ridden in one of em ? Ever driven one ? I have. And thats exactly why im only going to say this just once :

YOU ARE FULL OF IT

A Z06 has a top speed nearing the 200 MPH range an will pin you to the seat under heavy acceleration. That car my friend would completely leave you in the dust wondering just what exactly happened.

Another side note :
Ive also seen you on here trashing Camaros ( V6 , 8 whatever). Let me see how i can put this ..... YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. To clarify : I AM NOT saying that YOUR car or any other brand of RICE is not fast or incapable of beating whoever in a race, BUT you are seriously un-educated and underestimating what these cars are capable of both in stock and aftermarket configurations.

I happen to own both a 96 V6 Auto and a 97 V8 Manual. The V6 can and will surprise you. A 3.8 L 3800 Series II is a renown engine and can deliver quite a surprise when you mash the gas pedal.

The 97 Camaro i own with the LT1 would most certainly scare the hell out of you, and make you feel bad about your claims, LOL

Now then ..... A Z06 Vette ... well .... i wouldnt , and you wouldnt stand any chance at all my friend.

So ok argue if you want now ( you will only argue with yourself), ban me or whatever ..... but SO SORRY truth hurts :)

Well what an amazingly educated post by a newb...you seem to know plenty about the z06, but you know nothing about his car, so how are you calling BS? Not to mention, didn't you learn to pick your fights back in elementary school...it is a good lesson to learn, don't piss off a mod.
I'll leave it to him to pass judgment.

Red, nice run man, taking down a vette or even keeping up for that matter is always a damn good feeling. And I feel your pain on not getting into 2nd. When I first put in my GReddy Type-S the damn thing was in the way of my counterweight on the shift fork and I couldn't get it into 1st, 3rd or 5th, and had to drive to work like that. It sucked!

Hmm, looks like camaroincal is back!

In case you don't know what Redneck383 drives, his car weighs about the same as a Honda CRX, like 2200 lbs. And his SR20 puts out probably 220+ hp, maybe more since he has most bolt-ons already. That puts his ride in the low 13's/high 12's already. Why wouldn't that hang with a Z06?

You are correct, a Z06 Corvette is a beast, and perhaps that's why it takes such a skilled driver to crack off a mid 12 second pass. So you've ridden in one. Big deal, so have I. I don't really see a reason to raise the BS flag on a story that sounds legit and doesn't set off any of my BS sensors.

Discuss this in a thoughtful,not confrontational manner, and perhaps we will all learn something.

...When I first put in my GReddy Type-S the damn thing was in the way of my counterweight on the shift fork and I couldn't get it into 1st, 3rd or 5th, and had to drive to work like that. It sucked!
HAHAHA, OWNED!

:Icon16:

RedNeck383 LOL, you have got be kidding me !!!!

How come you can beat all these great cars with no problems at all ?!? A Z06 Vette ??? Ever ridden in one of em ? Ever driven one ? I have. And thats exactly why im only going to say this just once :

YOU ARE FULL OF IT

A Z06 has a top speed nearing the 200 MPH range an will pin you to the seat under heavy acceleration. That car my friend would completely leave you in the dust wondering just what exactly happened.

Another side note :
Ive also seen you on here trashing Camaros ( V6 , 8 whatever). Let me see how i can put this ..... YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. To clarify : I AM NOT saying that YOUR car or any other brand of RICE is not fast or incapable of beating whoever in a race, BUT you are seriously un-educated and underestimating what these cars are capable of both in stock and aftermarket configurations.

I happen to own both a 96 V6 Auto and a 97 V8 Manual. The V6 can and will surprise you. A 3.8 L 3800 Series II is a renown engine and can deliver quite a surprise when you mash the gas pedal.

The 97 Camaro i own with the LT1 would most certainly scare the hell out of you, and make you feel bad about your claims, LOL

Now then ..... A Z06 Vette ... well .... i wouldnt , and you wouldnt stand any chance at all my friend.

So ok argue if you want now ( you will only argue with yourself), ban me or whatever ..... but SO SORRY truth hurts :)


:lol:

Ok... lets begin with the fact that it wasn't a full on race. I've already stated this. He punched in 2nd gear from behind me, I punched in 2nd gear nearly at the same time and I stayed ahead. He let off once I got going. The guy already said he wasn't going to race, He was most likely just showing off thinking that's what I wanted to see, his Z06 run. Who wouldn't?

Anywho, I've raced a low 12 second Z this weekend and pulled ahead by a nose before we let off. I say I could race a Z06 fair and square now.

If you still do not believe me, I'll have my buddy's dad get in contact with the dude with a Z06, not the same one, but a Z06 none-the less. And we'll get it on tape... how about that? (I cannot guarantee it can be setup, the guy seemed like a weiner. Seriously.)

If I lose, I lose. No biggie. In all honesty, I should lose to a $55,000 car. I have no shame in losing to one. But if I win... I'm putting this into your signature:

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/33812rnown-med.JPG

96RedRS im sorry but you just got straight up owned, and since we were the shop that put his car together and i was the one test driving it, i have also driven a Z06 and it didnt put my ass in the seat as hard as this sr240z so you might wanna think twice before you start putting up the BS flag

hmmmmmm.... i'll post some video after you come to az next month


but the z is at what? about 270hp @ 14.5 psi? and weighs 2400lbs?

that power to weight will keep up with a z06 as long as it has enough rubber to the ground

from what we think or figure its about 230-240whp at 14.5psi and about 2200 lbs roughly

LoL.... you called him a Tool! LoL

Good 'race', Red... can't wait until you meet-up at the perfect red-light... You pull up to a red-light... all-of-a-sudden a red Z06 pulls up to you... the earth trembles as he idles... he flexes and you nearly pee your pants... you feather the throttle back in response... there are no cars whatsoever for a mile in front of you... the light turns green!

RedNeck383 LOL, you have got be kidding me !!!!

How come you can beat all these great cars with no problems at all ?!? A Z06 Vette ??? Ever ridden in one of em ? Ever driven one ? I have. And thats exactly why im only going to say this just once :

YOU ARE FULL OF IT

A Z06 has a top speed nearing the 200 MPH range an will pin you to the seat under heavy acceleration. That car my friend would completely leave you in the dust wondering just what exactly happened.

Another side note :
Ive also seen you on here trashing Camaros ( V6 , 8 whatever). Let me see how i can put this ..... YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. To clarify : I AM NOT saying that YOUR car or any other brand of RICE is not fast or incapable of beating whoever in a race, BUT you are seriously un-educated and underestimating what these cars are capable of both in stock and aftermarket configurations.

I happen to own both a 96 V6 Auto and a 97 V8 Manual. The V6 can and will surprise you. A 3.8 L 3800 Series II is a renown engine and can deliver quite a surprise when you mash the gas pedal.

The 97 Camaro i own with the LT1 would most certainly scare the hell out of you, and make you feel bad about your claims, LOL

Now then ..... A Z06 Vette ... well .... i wouldnt , and you wouldnt stand any chance at all my friend.

So ok argue if you want now ( you will only argue with yourself), ban me or whatever ..... but SO SORRY truth hurts :)

and what have you done to your LT1 that would scare redneck? and how a stock V6 automatic f body surprise us if hes a little spec in our rear view mirror? i do'nt understand. also i suggest you find out what kind of car redneck drives before you go on mouthing. because it would make it just that much sweeter when he sees the look on your face that a 30 year "RICE" destroyed your LT1 ( if its stock or near stock ) if your LT1 is stock i'm more then a match for you. and redneck would destroy me.

also a Z06 cannot do near 200mph. try 180mph no where near 200mph not unless the Z06 have atleast another 200hp. rednecks car if geared right and if he can keep his front wheels on the ground can approach 170+mph from his power to weight. however he is redline limited to around 160mph. which i'm possible he can hit.

96redRS YOU have got to be kidding ME. Yes i will give chevrolet/GM credit for building a very beautiful and capable car however, I have ridden in some ZO6's and they were hella fast but there are plenty of cars out there that are faster. And make sure you get your stats straight next time you try calling BS.

WAHHHHH, we drive rice and we dont want anyone at all to say we could possibly not be as fast as we are ! wahhhhhhhhhh, dont disagree with me or ill cry and ban you ! hahaha . Children, you alll must be. I get it now.

Hmm, looks like camaroincal is back!

In case you don't know what Redneck383 drives, his car weighs about the same as a Honda CRX, like 2200 lbs. And his SR20 puts out probably 220+ hp, maybe more since he has most bolt-ons already. That puts his ride in the low 13's/high 12's already. Why wouldn't that hang with a Z06?

You are correct, a Z06 Corvette is a beast, and perhaps that's why it takes such a skilled driver to crack off a mid 12 second pass. So you've ridden in one. Big deal, so have I. I don't really see a reason to raise the BS flag on a story that sounds legit and doesn't set off any of my BS sensors.

Discuss this in a thoughtful,not confrontational manner, and perhaps we will all learn something.

That isn't me. Sorry :grinno:

RedNeck383 LOL, you have got be kidding me !!!!

How come you can beat all these great cars with no problems at all ?!? A Z06 Vette ??? Ever ridden in one of em ? Ever driven one ? I have. And thats exactly why im only going to say this just once :

YOU ARE FULL OF IT

A Z06 has a top speed nearing the 200 MPH range an will pin you to the seat under heavy acceleration. That car my friend would completely leave you in the dust wondering just what exactly happened.

Another side note :
Ive also seen you on here trashing Camaros ( V6 , 8 whatever). Let me see how i can put this ..... YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. To clarify : I AM NOT saying that YOUR car or any other brand of RICE is not fast or incapable of beating whoever in a race, BUT you are seriously un-educated and underestimating what these cars are capable of both in stock and aftermarket configurations.

I happen to own both a 96 V6 Auto and a 97 V8 Manual. The V6 can and will surprise you. A 3.8 L 3800 Series II is a renown engine and can deliver quite a surprise when you mash the gas pedal.

The 97 Camaro i own with the LT1 would most certainly scare the hell out of you, and make you feel bad about your claims, LOL

Now then ..... A Z06 Vette ... well .... i wouldnt , and you wouldnt stand any chance at all my friend.

So ok argue if you want now ( you will only argue with yourself), ban me or whatever ..... but SO SORRY truth hurts :):disappoin

That isn't me. Sorry :grinno:

sorry camaroniacal ... was sticking up for you but if you wanna be real then the reality here is as such :

A bunch of kiddies are on these forums all touting that their car makes them god and they can beat anyone anyday ... blah blah blah. Its just plain gay. and they spent a whole lot of time TRASHING camaros and vettes and the like .... lol. All the while praising their 4 bangers.

The guy has a friggin 70 something z with around 240 something HP. Right ? Oh ya im sure he would take down a Z06 no problem ! (stock 355 HP) Or how about the camaro Z he took down ?, or how about the Honda bike he beat ??? Comon, really ... wake up.

And finally to make the ultimate point :
The guy is drivin a Z which looks like a hunk o shat. EVEN IF he could eat up a vette, camaro, mustang, etc .... who cares his car looks like a rolling piece of kaka , LOL.

I only joined this forum to state the fact that my speculations are correct : ricers really are retarded ! Ill head on back to camarov6.com
where i wont ofend so many children :)

man, shutup. Nobody want's an a-hole like you telling people that their cars are shit.

i'm surprised that you even replied. anyways no one said rednecks car in unbeatable. also you have to know redneck originally bought the Z as a beater to get around when he was doing major engine work to the 383 in his CHEVY NOVA. so its not like he never driven anything with 8 cylinders . so he damn well knows his chevy stuff since he originally is a chevy guy. he fell in love with the Z becusae it was such a fun to drive car cause of its relative light weight and size which makes it a very agile little car even though its 4 wheel independant strut type suspension is very outdated. ( the car is 30 years old you know ) also i happen to think the 240Z is one of the best looking cars of all time. its very classic looking car looking part ferrari and part jaguar for its time. and even today its a very nice looking car.

hes not stupid he knows the car had no guts, thats why he did a swap. yes the power difference is over 100whp but the weight difference also happens to be around 1000lbs. whats so hard to believe in that? they havwe 10 second n/a hondas making only 350 crank hp you know. so power even though its very important, its not always everything.

and non of use ever say our cars are unbeatable. a LS1 will shit all over me, as well most other worked V8 cars. however just becasue i drive a import doesnt' mean i don't like cars in general. i love the LS1 firebird t/a with the WS6 package, i also lover the dodge viper SRT10, i also love the Z06, and most of all i love the king of all american cars, the ford GT.

I love being referred to as a kiddie by someone who hasn't mastered spelling, sentence structure, Caps Lock, or puberty.

Um, you are a kiddie ... how old are you ? Besides, was i talking to YOU ? And we arent in english class junior, we are in a forum :)

Oh JOSH ... Civics are SHIT, LOL

Anyway you want some butter or soy on your RICE ? LOL Ban me ban me im begging for it !!!!
You better anyways .... my car doesnt have any stickers on it so i must be like minus 50 HP just for not having a sticker or two i suppose. Or a fart cannon hangin out the ass of my car, ill have to use some tape and put a folgers can or two on my car, then can i hang out here with you guys ?

Who said I liked civics, Dumbass.

Do I drive one? no
Did I ever say I liked them? no

LOL Ban me ban me im begging for it !!!!


I love it when people beg. Bye.


P.S.

I know you'll attempt to troll, and be back. That's ok, my ban-button needs its practice.

I'm not a vette basher since I have a friend that owns two one that I've painted and the other I'm going to prep for paint and do a little engine work if he ever gets his prioritys straight, but I have on several ocasions beat him in my v6 cougar land yachet( however its spelled) and even put a guy in his place at the drags without even knowing it. He said he felt sry for me going up against the vette and laughed as I launched then as I passed the vette before the 60' mark he was turning a little white according to a friend taping the race. So before you say that a car with a smaller engine cant beat a bigger engine stop and think about power to weight ratios and driver skills and also think about how much trq the smaller engine may have because, in my case it was roughly 80 more lbs of trq and 30 more hp.

sorry camaroniacal ... was sticking up for you but if you wanna be real then the reality here is as such :

A bunch of kiddies are on these forums all touting that their car makes them god and they can beat anyone anyday ... blah blah blah. Its just plain gay. and they spent a whole lot of time TRASHING camaros and vettes and the like .... lol. All the while praising their 4 bangers.

Trashing Camaros? Trashing Corvettes? Nope... I love em both. Wish I could afford them. But I can't, not yet anyways. So I'll deal with my beater car that can keep up. And on occasion pass up.

The guy has a friggin 70 something z with around 240 something HP. Right ? Oh ya im sure he would take down a Z06 no problem ! (stock 355 HP) Or how about the camaro Z he took down ?, or how about the Honda bike he beat ??? Comon, really ... wake up.

Actually, right now it'd be pushing around 270hp @ 15psi, so around 230whp. That's a 130whp jump over stock. Stock Z06 has 405hp from the LS6, but the 2001 Z06 had 385hp. 2002 it it got the 20hp bump.

The Camaro was a SS thank you very much. And I did not beat the Honda CBR1000RR. Are you a tool? Can you read? Apparently not. I clearly stated in the THREAD TITLE that I lost to it.

And finally to make the ultimate point :
The guy is drivin a Z which looks like a hunk o shat. EVEN IF he could eat up a vette, camaro, mustang, etc .... who cares his car looks like a rolling piece of kaka , LOL.

That's your oppinion. Say all you will about my car. Doesn't make me upset. It's got a lot of little paint chips and scratches from being old, so it's not perfect.

I only joined this forum to state the fact that my speculations are correct : ricers really are retarded ! Ill head on back to camarov6.com
where i wont ofend so many children :)

If I'm a ricer, then you're clearly a 13 year old hilly billy who screws his sister silly, gives his dad a reach around, and milks the family Bull.

People like you are proof that their mothers should of learned to swallow at an early age.

I pray that Darwin pays you a visit with an award... soon.

OMG. Thank you RedNeck I didnt notice the part about the camarov6.com so now I've really gotta lay in on this... I have several friends that have owned v6 camaros thinking like many ricers that they're fast, but when some one comes up and wants to race they back down unless its a civic cause they always rag on 4cyl cars I have tryed several times to get them to race me in my 4000 lb cougar and they always declined even when I could catch them out on the road however I did get one to race me that was a 3.4 and what happened to say the least was a sad sight... I caught him at roughly 70 mph and he finally accepted my invite to race so he floors it I drop to thrid and leave him sitting so I let off and let him catch up ( hes still floored) I let him pass then hammer down again, did this several times untill he finally gave up. I asked him what happened a few days later and he said he wasnt trying however word of mouth passed to me that he told a friend with 99 3.8 camaro not to race me cause I would eat him alive. Then I started to mod a few things and it seemed like everything I did the 3.8 driver did the next week and even with all "his" mods he still wouldnt race me. So I'm seeing a trend with all the v6 camaro drivers most think that their car is the fastest thing out there and no one other then the lt1 or ls1 drivers can beat them. Not to seem like I'm dragging this out but I offered to race them in my mothers gt stang at the track since they said they could beat any stock gt around here and they still declined my offer. Now on to the v6 camaros they can be quick cars with the right mods but a stock v6 3.8 is doing good to run a mid 15 sec 1/4 and around here the fastest stock 3.8 camaro was running 16.8s, one ran a low 15 but wasnt stock, so I can say from personal experinace from driving these cars they are not a total let down but they are not what you think they are. So show some respect to people that take time to make their cars faster no matter what it is. Btw RedNeck nice car and name.

i wonder what that ass really drives. and whatever he drives i'll laugh soo hard when jeckle and hyde burns the shit out of him with this 11 second mr2. or have RazorGTR burn him with his 12 flat GT-R, or have hybridsol burn him with his 10 second honda. then he'll be in the world of shame for making so much fun of imports with his big bad "_____" taht he has.

Yeah I wouldnt mid seeing him race some of the "street cars" running around here ranging from a few 9 sec mustangs (1 is rummered to run 7s when he stays on the gas and runs his nitrous and 1 is supposibly running 8s now) several 10 sec camaros and mustange a few 11 sec cars, a 12 sec civic hatch back that blew my mind since it looked like a junkyard beater along with some other real street cars. Even if he owns a 2004 viper I wouldnt care becuase he has shown no respect to people that have real rides.

Eh, he has a 1996 Camaro RS (150HP) for God sakes...he can come back when he has at least the same HP as a 1996 Maxima (190HP).

Where does HE get-off talking about other people's cars?

LMAO

Total Pwnificatiorization.

Eh, he has a 1996 Camaro RS (150HP) for God sakes...he can come back when he has at least the same HP as a 1996 Maxima (190HP).

Where does HE get-off talking about other people's cars?

LMAO

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It's ok you are only off by 50 horsepower :biggrin:

It's ok most people confuse the 4th gen Camaro V6's. 1993-94 was the 3.4 V6 (160 HP 200 TQ) 1995 had both the 3.4 and 3.8 now as an option (3.8 = 200 HP 225 TQ) and 96-02 had only the 3.8 V6. Alot of people think that the 96 and 97's are 3.4 because they have the same front end of the 93-95 3.4 (sunken headlights) You guys get all that? :uhoh:

Total Pwnificatiorization.

You are too hung up on Dr. Suess man. :grinno:

Trashing Camaros? Trashing Corvettes? Nope... I love em both. Wish I could afford them. But I can't, not yet anyways. So I'll deal with my beater car that can keep up. And on occasion pass up.



Actually, right now it'd be pushing around 270hp @ 15psi, so around 230whp. That's a 130whp jump over stock. Stock Z06 has 405hp from the LS6, but the 2001 Z06 had 385hp. 2002 it it got the 20hp bump.

The Camaro was a SS thank you very much. And I did not beat the Honda CBR1000RR. Are you a tool? Can you read? Apparently not. I clearly stated in the THREAD TITLE that I lost to it.



That's your oppinion. Say all you will about my car. Doesn't make me upset. It's got a lot of little paint chips and scratches from being old, so it's not perfect.



If I'm a ricer, then you're clearly a 13 year old hilly billy who screws his sister silly, gives his dad a reach around, and milks the family Bull.

People like you are proof that their mothers should of learned to swallow at an early age.

I pray that Darwin pays you a visit with an award... soon.

Sorry about giving you a hard time last week. Those kids in that Camaro are dumb for saying you're a ricer when they knew nothing about your car. I'm nothing like that, I never judge a person, or a car unless I know enough about them/it to judge. I sometimes use the internet as my punching bag when im in a bad mood. :comprage1 :evillol: But anyway, I'm just curious about some things. How much does that Z weigh stock? And also, you live in Cali like me....have you heard about the new smog laws?...ALL vehicles..even the old ones, have to pass smog now. I'm just curious what you think about it. Do you think you'll pass? Smog laws = :shakehead

OMG. Thank you RedNeck I didnt notice the part about the camarov6.com so now I've really gotta lay in on this... I have several friends that have owned v6 camaros thinking like many ricers that they're fast, but when some one comes up and wants to race they back down unless its a civic cause they always rag on 4cyl cars I have tryed several times to get them to race me in my 4000 lb cougar and they always declined even when I could catch them out on the road however I did get one to race me that was a 3.4 and what happened to say the least was a sad sight... I caught him at roughly 70 mph and he finally accepted my invite to race so he floors it I drop to thrid and leave him sitting so I let off and let him catch up ( hes still floored) I let him pass then hammer down again, did this several times untill he finally gave up. I asked him what happened a few days later and he said he wasnt trying however word of mouth passed to me that he told a friend with 99 3.8 camaro not to race me cause I would eat him alive. Then I started to mod a few things and it seemed like everything I did the 3.8 driver did the next week and even with all "his" mods he still wouldnt race me. So I'm seeing a trend with all the v6 camaro drivers most think that their car is the fastest thing out there and no one other then the lt1 or ls1 drivers can beat them. Not to seem like I'm dragging this out but I offered to race them in my mothers gt stang at the track since they said they could beat any stock gt around here and they still declined my offer. Now on to the v6 camaros they can be quick cars with the right mods but a stock v6 3.8 is doing good to run a mid 15 sec 1/4 and around here the fastest stock 3.8 camaro was running 16.8s, one ran a low 15 but wasnt stock, so I can say from personal experinace from driving these cars they are not a total let down but they are not what you think they are. So show some respect to people that take time to make their cars faster no matter what it is. Btw RedNeck nice car and name.

Please don't judge a few people who drive Camaro V6's with ALL people who drive them. :disappoin

RedNeck383 I had a car like your when I was 14 but I got it taken away by the cops. My uncle bought it for $400. I liked that car. It had the t-tops and everything.

Well im not judging all camaro drivers cause I was once a driver of a 77 z28 I'm just saying that I'm seeing a trend in what seems to be school kids who are undereducated about their and others rides. Like I said the v6 camaro isnt a bad car but alot of people over estimate it. Also with the school kid thing I was at a local vocational school the other day and a student made the comment that his old 3.4 camaro was a beast and you would be suprised with its power, I bit my tounge becuase like I said I have driven these cars and I know how they feel. Now I'm not putting these people down cause to each their own but I was never impressed in most of the newer camaros I have driven. Basicaly I havent been impressed with many new cars I have driven including a c5 vette my uncle owned. Call me old school or just out of date but I'd much rather have an older car then a newer one due in part that I have had many sleepless nights racking my brain on what to look for in a problem I'm confronted with on a newer car.

I'm in the tenth grade my self, but I consider myself partially educated when it comes to cars. Yesterday I heard a kid saying that his STOCK! civic could beat a wrx. I didnt say anything but I was laughing inside. I'm going to ask him for a race. I just wanna see what he says. I'm not going to RACE him or anything.:uhoh:

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It's ok you are only off by 50 horsepower :biggrin:



It's cool. They're all slow to me anyhow. Yep, they're slow to my beat-up, old, fading-paint, Sentra. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/sunglasses.gif

Sry I dont mean to put all people that still go to school in the same basket as those like who you mentioned but theu make the rest of younger people look like they have no idea of what their talking about same goes for all the mustang, camaro, civic, and any other major group out there, beacuse when I was in school I knew my car wasnt fast how ever due to the fact that once someone thought my car was fast everyone was afraid to race and I was driving around a car with broke down warped frame, blown intake, head gasket along with some other issues yet it never failed people fell into the "its gotta be fast cause it supercharged catagory" which I would play off of to make peopl think it was fast. THere are plenty of young people out there that are very smart when it comes to cars and some that can drive the wheels off of a car ( in a good way) and I wouldnt want to face up against even though many people think I am a great driver. So I must apologize to anyone that might have misstaken any of my previous posts there was no intent to lessen anyone, even those I have delt with.

i wonder what that ass really drives. and whatever he drives i'll laugh soo hard when jeckle and hyde burns the shit out of him with this 11 second mr2. or have RazorGTR burn him with his 12 flat GT-R, or have hybridsol burn him with his 10 second honda. then he'll be in the world of shame for making so much fun of imports with his big bad "_____" taht he has.

Or have you burn him with your 13 sec S14 or me burn him with my 15sec S13. It really doesn't make a difference. Either he drives a 19+sec car or probably doesn't even have a car. People who make fun of other people are usually self=conscious meaning they make fun of people with pretty fast cars because they drive extremely slow cars. And what the hell is wrong with a SR20DET powered Z? The 3.8l camaro is a dog by the way. I drove one (auto) and to tell you the truth, I was a tad bit disappointed. It may just be that its an auto, but a 01 3.4l grand am auto is faster than that. I give it a 16.5 at best.

Sorry about giving you a hard time last week. Those kids in that Camaro are dumb for saying you're a ricer when they knew nothing about your car. I'm nothing like that, I never judge a person, or a car unless I know enough about them/it to judge. I sometimes use the internet as my punching bag when im in a bad mood. :comprage1 :evillol: But anyway, I'm just curious about some things. How much does that Z weigh stock? And also, you live in Cali like me....have you heard about the new smog laws?...ALL vehicles..even the old ones, have to pass smog now. I'm just curious what you think about it. Do you think you'll pass? Smog laws = :shakehead



It's cool, no worries.

The car stock weighs 2300lbs. But with the SR20 swap with no fan, a/c or powersteering components the motor is now like 30-35lbs lighter. That shit is heavy! Not to mention the SR20 itself is a bit lighter than the original L24 Inline-6.

I've also removed my heater core, and heater fans/blower and all the ducting. As well as the rear carpeting/padding and fullsize 14" spare tire. That's about 60lbs all together. The heater shit was suprisingly heavy, made of like steel boxes and little (but heavy) blower motors.

Thus, I'm thinking... with my 120lb ass sitting in it. It should be around 2200lbs.

So some quick Ricer Math Calculations:
Approx 270hp Max boost @ 2200lbs gives my Z a 8.1:1 hp to lb ratio
405hp @ 3200lbs gives a Z06 a 7.9:1 hp to lb ratio

I'm not too far behind, not saying I'd beat one straight up. It's possible, it'd come down to drivers in that one. So who knows. People think my car is mid 12s. We'll see eh?


Those smog laws aren't in effect yet. They've been trying to get those laws put into place forever now. Each time it goes up to vote, the car enthusiats rally and shoot it down. Each time. I'm not too worried though.