Cooler engine?
19RaVeN96
09-16-2004, 09:00 PM
Hey! I somewhat of a newbie. I was wondering what is the best way to keep the engine bay cool. Or what would be the most efficient way? My car is a 96 accord.
AccordCodger
09-17-2004, 10:26 AM
What problem are you trying to solve? The Accord's cooling system works pretty reliably.
If you literally mean keep the engine BAY cool --- (a) good luck, with a 200-odd degree block of metal sitting in it, and (b) why do you need to keep it especially cool?
If you literally mean keep the engine BAY cool --- (a) good luck, with a 200-odd degree block of metal sitting in it, and (b) why do you need to keep it especially cool?
phoenixitc
09-17-2004, 10:38 AM
Very easy way... looooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuvvvveeeerrrrssssss :)
Trick way back in the old days to vent heat from engine bays with hot running big block V8s! :)
Trick way back in the old days to vent heat from engine bays with hot running big block V8s! :)
AccordCodger
09-17-2004, 12:17 PM
Yeah, but ..... for a 2.2L (or 2.0 or 1.8) 4-banger???
phoenixitc
09-17-2004, 01:37 PM
Ok... littler louvers :)
AccordCodger
09-17-2004, 01:57 PM
Love it - LOL!
19RaVeN96
09-17-2004, 06:23 PM
My engine is running fine. Yeah, I know of course that the engine never is gonna be "cool", but maybe cooler. I heard you can get more out of the engine if it is kept cooler.
AccordCodger
09-17-2004, 08:57 PM
No - you're heading down the wrong path. The engine actually runs BETTER if it's HOTTER (well, up to a point).
What you may have been confusing it with is the temperature of the incoming air to the fuel system. It's true that the colder the air taht gets mixed with fuel (again, up to a point), the more HP you get. The reason is simple - cold air is denser than hot.
But others who've addressed that issue can advise you better than I can. Suffice to say that it's neither necessary nor very practical to try to lower the temp of the entire engine bay.
What you may have been confusing it with is the temperature of the incoming air to the fuel system. It's true that the colder the air taht gets mixed with fuel (again, up to a point), the more HP you get. The reason is simple - cold air is denser than hot.
But others who've addressed that issue can advise you better than I can. Suffice to say that it's neither necessary nor very practical to try to lower the temp of the entire engine bay.
phoenixitc
09-17-2004, 09:30 PM
Another aspect to a "cooler engine" is the temp of the thermostat. In my bygone days of running high output V8s, running a lower temp thermostat help keep the engine temp cooler by opening the system sooner. That combined with a high-flow radiator and modified water pump would help maintain a cooler engine, i.e big block 427s and 454s.
AccordCodger
09-17-2004, 10:18 PM
But the purpose of that was to keep the engine from being damaged, not to cause it to produce more HP, right? I was always taught that a cooler motor is a less efficient motor.
phoenixitc
09-18-2004, 07:10 AM
If you are referring to my statement, yes, the purpose of the lower temp theromostat is to to help an engine run cooler should it be running hotter that is proper. This was commonly done of big blocks running down here in Texas during the summer.
AccordCodger
09-19-2004, 06:47 AM
Yes, phoenix - sorry - I was referring to your observation.
So aren't any of you racers going to help out with advice as to how to lower the intake temp? You know about all this after-market stuff -- I don't.
So aren't any of you racers going to help out with advice as to how to lower the intake temp? You know about all this after-market stuff -- I don't.
bx10466
09-19-2004, 02:56 PM
I'm not sure if it's the same thing but I have alot of heat coming from under the car itself. Can't even lean against my car while it's idling. It's a '92 accord lx. I did remove the heat shield from the exhaust a while ago, it was making a noise :naughty:
AccordCodger
09-19-2004, 07:43 PM
We're off on a bunny trail here!
bx10466
09-20-2004, 10:09 PM
I KNOW BUT C'MON I WAS NICE AND WASTED WHEN I READ IT, AND BESIDES BUNNIES ARE CUTE AND MAKE GOOD ROAD-KILL :icon16:
phoenixitc
09-20-2004, 11:25 PM
You must be really proud to admit publicly that you got wasted. I know I'm really impressed...
cglenn2a
09-25-2004, 01:48 AM
Kind of an important side note. You dont really want to make the engine compartment too cool for all the reasons mentioned above. But, you definately do not want to make it too cool if it is an automatic. If the engine and tranny do not get warm enough, the tranny will not go into "lock up" resulting in poor gas mileage (3-5 mpg less) as well as more strain on engine. Your engine normally runs at 3000 rpm at 70 mph....without lock up, it will run around 3400-3500 at 70 mph.
whatsupzaflo
09-27-2004, 01:41 AM
Hahahah
AccordCodger
09-27-2004, 12:30 PM
Huh? What's funny?
bx10466
09-28-2004, 07:12 PM
You must be really proud to admit publicly that you got wasted. I know I'm really impressed...
Didn't realize I had to impress anyone, BTW I'm glad you were though :loser:
Didn't realize I had to impress anyone, BTW I'm glad you were though :loser:
phoenixitc
09-29-2004, 02:21 PM
Didn't realize I had to impress anyone, BTW I'm glad you were though :loser:
Actually you dumbass you didn't. I'm not surprised you would admit it publicly. You're a real idiot for doing so.
Actually you dumbass you didn't. I'm not surprised you would admit it publicly. You're a real idiot for doing so.
94accordVTEC
09-30-2004, 12:19 PM
Actually you dumbass you didn't. I'm not surprised you would admit it publicly. You're a real idiot for doing so.
enough with the moral police :loser:
enough with the moral police :loser:
phoenixitc
09-30-2004, 12:36 PM
enough with the moral police :loser:
Apparently his parents as well as yours failed in doing their job. At this point they certainly don't realize their childish kids are playing on the internet and being idiots. Both of you should open your bedrooms doors and ask mommy and daddy to remind you of your manners.
Apparently his parents as well as yours failed in doing their job. At this point they certainly don't realize their childish kids are playing on the internet and being idiots. Both of you should open your bedrooms doors and ask mommy and daddy to remind you of your manners.
94accordVTEC
09-30-2004, 12:46 PM
Apparently his parents as well as yours failed in doing their job. At this point they certainly don't realize their childish kids are playing on the internet and being idiots. Both of you should open your bedrooms doors and ask mommy and daddy to remind you of your manners.
Watch it with the parent comments and get the stick out of your a$$ it's automotiveforums.com not runyourmouthbecauseyouthinkyourbetterthaneveryonee lse.com :headshake
Watch it with the parent comments and get the stick out of your a$$ it's automotiveforums.com not runyourmouthbecauseyouthinkyourbetterthaneveryonee lse.com :headshake
bx10466
09-30-2004, 10:25 PM
:iagree:
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