Possible Mach 1 upgrades?
Methos987
09-16-2004, 12:49 AM
Hello everyone, first time poster here.
I just recently bought a 04 Mach 1, does anyone know of some upgrades that I could do to get that extra push? It's rated at about 305-315 hp depending on the source. I would like to get it to around 400 or 400+. Any suggestions?
I just recently bought a 04 Mach 1, does anyone know of some upgrades that I could do to get that extra push? It's rated at about 305-315 hp depending on the source. I would like to get it to around 400 or 400+. Any suggestions?
kittedb18bt
09-16-2004, 01:11 AM
the car is underrated, and you will see 12's with a midpipe and gears. 400 you will have to go FI because the cams, intake and heads are almost the cream of the crop.
Ghost96Gt
09-16-2004, 10:32 AM
i seen alot of mach 1's with K&N intake kits. Get exhuast (off-road x or h but if u want it legal u will have to get the high flow cat x or h). the gear ratio in the machs are 3.55 i belive but if u want u can go up to 3.73, 4.10s.
GTStang
09-16-2004, 10:49 AM
S/C it and hold on!
HighRev87
09-16-2004, 11:08 AM
I love how no one considers a turbo :P
HiFlow5 0
09-16-2004, 11:47 AM
I love how no one considers a turbo :P
It's just more economical to supercharge rather then turbocharge a Mach 1. Personally, I would love to turbo my car, and I think others will have the same thoughts.
It's just more economical to supercharge rather then turbocharge a Mach 1. Personally, I would love to turbo my car, and I think others will have the same thoughts.
HighRev87
09-16-2004, 02:41 PM
I understand what your saying. I really want to turbo my ride once I gain the money. I considered the differences in turbo/sc for the stang, and I noticed the differences. The turbo will give me much better results, and from what I was told lag isnt as much of an issue on a high displacement car, as compared to a four banger. The other big difference I noticed is pricing. :( S/C kits can be puchased at decent prices, whereas a turbo can either be purchased as a very expensive kit, or bought as individual parts, which would include building custom parts.
And im done :)
And im done :)
HighRev87
09-16-2004, 02:47 PM
Also, if anyone else here is interested you can check out turbomustangs.com. It is a site I found while doing my research. They dont sell kits, they are just an knowledge Bank with links to companies selling mustang Turbo applications. The kits are way over priced, but they give you an idea of what would be needed/involved in a project.
GTStang
09-16-2004, 04:30 PM
I love how no one considers a turbo :P
#1 Cost there are no good cheap turbo or TT kits for Mustangs. Although they are coming down slowly they are still much more highly priced than S/C.
#2 Much more work involved in installing a turbo than compared to a S/C. Also something greatly overlooked every turbo set-up needs to be dyno tuned cause it is based on engine load and not rpm like a S/C so even 2 cars with exact same turbo kit needs a completely different dyno tune. So that adds to the money and complexity. A S/C is not as dependant from a dyno tune although it does benefit.
#3 Availability, choice, reliablility. This refers to the turbo Mustang scene more than turbo systems. There have been many fly by night rip-off scams when it comes to turbo systems for Mustangs. The truth is the Mustang turbo market in a kit form is very very sketchy scene.
#4 The superiority of turbo's gets lost a lil in the Mustangs scene. What good is it to have a TT kit on a Mach1 that yes can make 50-60hp more than a S/C on stock internals for extra $1,000-3,000 etc.., The biggest superiority of this TT kit is that it can make a 1,000hp but not on the stock internals. Yes I know you oculd get the TT to make max psi faster tehn the centrifugal S/C but is that really worth all the extra cash?
So yes turbo set-ups I admit are superior set-ups and I will have one on my current stang. But there is a lot fo drawbacks to them in the Mustang world. Hence why S/C are always mentioned before.
#1 Cost there are no good cheap turbo or TT kits for Mustangs. Although they are coming down slowly they are still much more highly priced than S/C.
#2 Much more work involved in installing a turbo than compared to a S/C. Also something greatly overlooked every turbo set-up needs to be dyno tuned cause it is based on engine load and not rpm like a S/C so even 2 cars with exact same turbo kit needs a completely different dyno tune. So that adds to the money and complexity. A S/C is not as dependant from a dyno tune although it does benefit.
#3 Availability, choice, reliablility. This refers to the turbo Mustang scene more than turbo systems. There have been many fly by night rip-off scams when it comes to turbo systems for Mustangs. The truth is the Mustang turbo market in a kit form is very very sketchy scene.
#4 The superiority of turbo's gets lost a lil in the Mustangs scene. What good is it to have a TT kit on a Mach1 that yes can make 50-60hp more than a S/C on stock internals for extra $1,000-3,000 etc.., The biggest superiority of this TT kit is that it can make a 1,000hp but not on the stock internals. Yes I know you oculd get the TT to make max psi faster tehn the centrifugal S/C but is that really worth all the extra cash?
So yes turbo set-ups I admit are superior set-ups and I will have one on my current stang. But there is a lot fo drawbacks to them in the Mustang world. Hence why S/C are always mentioned before.
HighRev87
09-16-2004, 09:31 PM
Oh I never said it diddnt have it's problems, just kinda wanted to find a way to introduce the scene to other enthusiasts.
As for you turboing your stang...is that for real? If so we should talk because it is something I might be considering...as a long term project. Some times things can be harder and not as fun, but if you will enjoy owning it/working for it/on it.... then thats all that matters.
As for you turboing your stang...is that for real? If so we should talk because it is something I might be considering...as a long term project. Some times things can be harder and not as fun, but if you will enjoy owning it/working for it/on it.... then thats all that matters.
ridge_runner
09-16-2004, 09:58 PM
man i was catchin up to a blue mach 1 that sounded badass yesterday cause i was gonna fuck with him, then i saw the vortech s/c emblem thing on the back left beside the light and changed my mind.. lol
GTStang
09-17-2004, 01:07 AM
Oh I never said it diddnt have it's problems, just kinda wanted to find a way to introduce the scene to other enthusiasts.
As for you turboing your stang...is that for real? If so we should talk because it is something I might be considering...as a long term project. Some times things can be harder and not as fun, but if you will enjoy owning it/working for it/on it.... then thats all that matters.
I'm no bashing Turbo's just helping you explian why the tend be though of after S/C in Mustangs.
Yes I'm going to TT my stang at some point(maybe this winter maybe not till a year, money ownz me!!) I have not decided if I'm going kit, make it myself, or pay a guy I trust to build it for me.
As for you turboing your stang...is that for real? If so we should talk because it is something I might be considering...as a long term project. Some times things can be harder and not as fun, but if you will enjoy owning it/working for it/on it.... then thats all that matters.
I'm no bashing Turbo's just helping you explian why the tend be though of after S/C in Mustangs.
Yes I'm going to TT my stang at some point(maybe this winter maybe not till a year, money ownz me!!) I have not decided if I'm going kit, make it myself, or pay a guy I trust to build it for me.
motor_head_429
09-17-2004, 03:10 AM
MM&FF: Supercharged 03 Mach 1: 11.92 at 120.21 mph on Nitto Drag Radials :biggrin: Is that fast enough for you?
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/features/0311mm_mach/
I also prefer turbos over superchargers. I was looking through autotrader a few days ago and saw a guy selling a turbocharged 351 Mustang. F-A-S-T :evillol:
Anyway, about your goal of 400 hp, I would go with a full exhaust and maybe some mild cams. I would also improve the intake, bigger maf, throttle body etc. I don't think it will quite get you to 400 though, but you should be close.
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/features/0311mm_mach/
I also prefer turbos over superchargers. I was looking through autotrader a few days ago and saw a guy selling a turbocharged 351 Mustang. F-A-S-T :evillol:
Anyway, about your goal of 400 hp, I would go with a full exhaust and maybe some mild cams. I would also improve the intake, bigger maf, throttle body etc. I don't think it will quite get you to 400 though, but you should be close.
Ghost96Gt
09-17-2004, 12:44 PM
Yeah i am like turbos alot more then s/c's and just like the adjustablity of a turbo (boost contoller) versus taking the blower pulley off and changing it with another one for more boost. I hanvt really liked the fact that it runs off the crank but they are still amazing none the less and one of the biggest bangs for the buck.
Ghost96Gt
09-17-2004, 12:45 PM
But the blowers on carbed engines are bad ASS! :evillol:
b3warnick
09-18-2004, 02:59 PM
Not to plug another forum, but:
http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/index.php
and articles you might find interesting:
http://www.alternativeauto.com/waterbox/wb_archives/mach1_vortech.html
and
http://www.alternativeauto.com/waterbox/waterbox_main.html The Mach in this article looks just like mine
and
http://www.motortrend.com/features/performance/112_0404_tuner/index.html
http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/index.php
and articles you might find interesting:
http://www.alternativeauto.com/waterbox/wb_archives/mach1_vortech.html
and
http://www.alternativeauto.com/waterbox/waterbox_main.html The Mach in this article looks just like mine
and
http://www.motortrend.com/features/performance/112_0404_tuner/index.html
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