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SHift Stabilizer Kit for 240sx?


GT500916
09-14-2004, 04:30 PM
Is there such a thing as a shift stabilizer kit for the 240sx? I know they have them for the front wheel drive cars that i know of, but how would it benefit the 240 if there is something of that nature out there? If they sell anything and you know the links please post. thanks.

SR20DETpower
09-14-2004, 06:57 PM
i work in a transmission shop, I've never heard of this before lol

do you mean a SHIFT KIT for automatic transmissions( i dunno where the stablizer part comes in tho)?

theres really on a couple companies that make SHIFT KITS for a variety of cars.. so it will be really fucking easy for you to search for it and find it, just type in SHIFT KIT and hit search lol.

it will be more fun and exciting for you to use google, rather then me going and doing it then spoon feeding you the link.

logik23
09-14-2004, 07:24 PM
I've heard of those kits before, but I'm not sure what they are. I think it's like better tranny mounts and bushings.

musicsurfman
09-14-2004, 07:31 PM
if those are solid or urethane mounts then yeah there are a few companies that make those.

SR20DETpower
09-14-2004, 08:06 PM
you wouldn't really want something like that.....

PROs.... doesn't wear out as quick as rubber

CONS...
more expensive then rubber
stiffer then rubber

When I say this I mean it, there really is no benefit of stiff engine mounts, and its good for your chassis for the drivetrain to have a place to flex a little, what better place then a mount....

Man I've been in a lot of cars with bad mounts(so its rough and harsh and jarring to the extent of what a hard mount is going to feel like... cars experience A LOT more ANNOYING vibrations, when I say annoying I put much emphasis on it, i can live with a lot of stuff changed on a car that will make it more like a machine and less like a comfort mobile... but vibrations from mounts is some of the worst shit I've seen, id almost rather ride with windows up and no a/c, in florida...

You know the places that sell all these parts for you car are of course going to say its good and helps out. They are going to act like their product is the greatest thing since sliced bread. They are salesman wanting your money so they have money. Never buy parts from a company just because the company selling them says its good, get opinions for parts from people who have decades of experience in the department of the car you are looking to modify... you would be amazed at what some mechanics know. Sure there not some 20 year old kid with a honda civic who's into the tuning culture saying how good all these things are trying to make a dollar off you; who's opinion do you think is better though?


what I would do: maintain parts that keep the car together, like a mount, in good stock condition. Don't let things wear out, regularily buy them so often when you notice it starting to go bad. its called maintenance, buy some decent oem quality parts and enjoy your car's longer life lol. Or say to hell with it all lets go full bore and sell the bitch later in 6 months to get a new project(I.E. i fucked this car up and its time for something else lol) Some kid like 18 years old had all this money. Got a honda, then got a Nissan s14. Dropped all this cash on it, SR20, body kit, custom paint, good wheels, diff, basically some fast n furious kid who wanted a JDM style car, now hes selling it because its turned into a pile of HORSE SHIT. Sure it could be fast when its in its prime, it could stop real good for the first few thousand miles, looks cool for all the little kids, but in reality, i bet its not as fun as a stock one or even a lightly modded car.. like I/H/E -springs/struts type deal.

musicsurfman
09-15-2004, 09:17 AM
Stiffer Mounts Are Useful..... Thats Why All Race Cars Are Equipped With Them. It Prevents Driveshaft Deflection, Drivetrain Flex (which Puts Power To The Ground Quicker And More Effciently), And Keeps The Engine Inline With The Differential A Higher Percentage Of The Time.

The Downsides To Stiff Mounts Or Solid Mounts Is Suspension And Chassis Wear... If You Don't Build Up The Entire System You Will Notice Chassis Cracks, Mis Alignments, Worn Shocks, And Other Suspension Problems Alot Quicker Tahn With A Stock Setup.

Remember Stock Is Built To Last AND Aftermarket Is Built For Performance.

SR20DETpower
09-15-2004, 09:18 PM
The Downsides To Stiff Mounts Or Solid Mounts Is Suspension And Chassis Wear... If You Don't Build Up The Entire System You Will Notice Chassis Cracks, Mis Alignments, Worn Shocks, And Other Suspension Problems Alot Quicker Tahn With A Stock Setup.

Remember Stock Is Built To Last AND Aftermarket Is Built For Performance.


lmfao I don't think engine flex is such a bad thing, it doesn't put so much strain on the chassis like I said... lets see what we have here, better traction from stiffer mounts(which will only benefit on rear suspension parts, not motor mounts) or the metal failing in your car's chassis... which is going to cause even less stability then stock, or poly. mounts....

this really isn't a hard one to figure out

GT500916
09-16-2004, 11:49 PM
http://projectnissan.com/PRODUCTCART/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=129&idproduct=760

this is what shift stabilizer kit is...

musicsurfman
09-17-2004, 08:56 AM
Thats Why All Race Cars Use Solid Or Super Stiff Rubber Or Poly Urethane Motor And Trans Mounts Right.... Because There Is No Benefit They Just Do It To Sped 4 Times The Amount They Could Spend On The Better Rubber Mount.

If You Are Trying To Put Every Bit Of Power You Have To The Ground, Not Have Drivetrain Bounce While Shifting, And What A More Stable Vehcile While Racing Through The Gears Solid Or Poly Urethane Mounts Are The Way To Go If You Realise The Adverse Effects And Need Costs... If You Want Comfortable Ride And Cheaper Operation And Longer Chassis Life Stay With The Stockers Or Slightly Stiffer Mounts.

alkemyst
09-19-2004, 07:57 PM
you wouldn't really want something like that.....

PROs.... doesn't wear out as quick as rubber

CONS...
more expensive then rubber
stiffer then rubber

When I say this I mean it, there really is no benefit of stiff engine mounts, and its good for your chassis for the drivetrain to have a place to flex a little, what better place then a mount....

Man I've been in a lot of cars with bad mounts(so its rough and harsh and jarring to the extent of what a hard mount is going to feel like... cars experience A LOT more ANNOYING vibrations, when I say annoying I put much emphasis on it, i can live with a lot of stuff changed on a car that will make it more like a machine and less like a comfort mobile... but vibrations from mounts is some of the worst shit I've seen, id almost rather ride with windows up and no a/c, in florida...

You know the places that sell all these parts for you car are of course going to say its good and helps out. They are going to act like their product is the greatest thing since sliced bread. They are salesman wanting your money so they have money. Never buy parts from a company just because the company selling them says its good, get opinions for parts from people who have decades of experience in the department of the car you are looking to modify... you would be amazed at what some mechanics know. Sure there not some 20 year old kid with a honda civic who's into the tuning culture saying how good all these things are trying to make a dollar off you; who's opinion do you think is better though?


what I would do: maintain parts that keep the car together, like a mount, in good stock condition. Don't let things wear out, regularily buy them so often when you notice it starting to go bad. its called maintenance, buy some decent oem quality parts and enjoy your car's longer life lol. Or say to hell with it all lets go full bore and sell the bitch later in 6 months to get a new project(I.E. i fucked this car up and its time for something else lol) Some kid like 18 years old had all this money. Got a honda, then got a Nissan s14. Dropped all this cash on it, SR20, body kit, custom paint, good wheels, diff, basically some fast n furious kid who wanted a JDM style car, now hes selling it because its turned into a pile of HORSE SHIT. Sure it could be fast when its in its prime, it could stop real good for the first few thousand miles, looks cool for all the little kids, but in reality, i bet its not as fun as a stock one or even a lightly modded car.. like I/H/E -springs/struts type deal.

man second post with fallacy I have noticed from you in the few drunken moments of reading tonight.

No rubber in the drive train is a BIG benefit to those making an extra zero in their paydays at the finish line. On the street (like many parts) no way.

You need to get out of your venomous and hating ways. It's a 240SX not a $100k ride. Although I think the money is on it until at least $50k with mods of course.

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SR20DETpower
09-19-2004, 08:35 PM
dude you just agreed with me, why are you arguing

all im saying is they aren't really that good for a street car....

they use a lot of things in a RACE CAR that aren't good for a street car, or even street legal. a RACE CAR is totally different then a STREET CAR.

race cars also have maintenance far worse then any street car, especially when you factor in the amount of time that they are actually driven.

race teams have so much money and cars its not funny, they just build cars like nothing, every nascar team probably atleast has 5 good current cars in its stable ready for racing, a couple are setup for roadcourse, and they even have diff ones for super speedway circuits, they atleast have two types of cars for each application)


the main thing I said is they don't offer that much benefit to a street car, especially when u factor in the downside, things like frames cracking is not good for a street car... spend that money on something else, that will work better, and make your car last longer...

use some common sense

alkemyst
09-20-2004, 11:58 AM
dude you just agreed with me, why are you arguing


No I did not...you stated there is never a benefit for stiffer mounts...there are some advantages for even a street car although I'd never recommend metal mounts for any street car.


all im saying is they aren't really that good for a street car....


but that wasn't how you said it. You are the one arguing....seriously, just drop it. Then you go on to generalize race teams as all have bottomless coffers. There are a lot more 'race teams' struggling than having unlimited funds.


use some common sense

and a liberal dose of irony right?

Å

D-Bo
09-20-2004, 03:32 PM
speaking of shifters, i snapped mine on the weekend.. shit i almost killed myself.. some dude in a g30 thought he was a hero so i took him to school and smoked him, but when we went around a corner, i downshifted and then upshifted again and it snapped.. i was sitting there going out of a turn with pretty much no shifter but the next light was red so i stopped... took a second to find my shift knob but it was there, so i did what i could from then on.. but now its shitty.. can barely drive..

WHICH MEANS

time for a new shifter! since i don't know a thing about short shifters, is there one out there thats better than most for 89-93 240s?? is it even worth it?

SR20DETpower
09-20-2004, 07:27 PM
I think the stock one is pretty decent.

it already is very direct and has a short throw, go drive a truck with a heavy duty transmission, like a turbo diesel dodge haha, and compare.. you will see the 240sx stock shifter is not all that bad... and its probably cheaper then a B&M Shifter, which is one of the best short throw shifters for the 240sx some people say.




PS I love when people reply to a thread yelling at someone for arguing and telling them to just dropit? why the fuck are you replying to the thread then, heed your own advice...me? I can just be an asshole to lil punk kids sometimes.

R.W.240
09-20-2004, 07:39 PM
Alkemyst - clean the sand out of you vagina, please.

what SR20Power is arguing (altough long and rambling) is that these parts ( solid engine/tranny mounts) are unnessicary for the street. then people come back and say "but TeH ubar APC driftar has em They Must be Teh 1337ness"... well yeah a 600+ HP track bred car might need them but on a street car driven daily your gonna end up with a cracked frame.

Personally, Im still waiting on my JDM 16Kg/mm Springs :uhoh:

SR20DETpower
09-20-2004, 07:51 PM
lmao thats sick

alkemyst
09-20-2004, 10:07 PM
PS I love when people reply to a thread yelling at someone for arguing and telling them to just dropit? why the fuck are you replying to the thread then, heed your own advice...me? I can just be an asshole to lil punk kids sometimes.

I am 33 years old, hardly yelling...you are the one getting all emotional and heated...I am just disagreeing with the misinformation you seem to make broad generalizations. I said to drop it because there is no point since you will just back pedal and change 'what you meant'. I have been online since 1983 though so it's not like I haven't seen your type around.

I have built from the ground up 1) 1966 Mustang GT (down to every bolt in the whole car), fully loaded auto hardtop, 1) 1965 Mustang GT Fastback (same as above as far as restoration)....never dynoed built to over 300hp net though.....fully loaded 5 spd had a hard time with traction even in third gear..., 1) 1992 Acura GSR (about 2 years old at the time)...light mods very quick stock..I was in the 14's, 1) 1997 GTI VR6 (bought new, would easily hang with M3's at 140mph+), 1) 1996 Saturn SC2 I bought when I went back to school about 3 years old)....did just about everything short of a turbo on the car mostly to learn modern tuning/performance....turned a whopping 15.2 1/4 mile, my slowest car yet other than a Mitsubishi Precis I bought while looking for the right 1992 GSR :), 1) 1996 Bronco Eddie Bauer 408CI EFI dynoed doubled net horsepower on mild cams and still turned 10mpg (5000lb vehicle) designed to tow a 27 foot open fisherman (Dusky which I also worked on extensively), not turn fast 1/4 miles...now my 1998 240SX SE. This car was bought after searching for 1988/89 944 Turbo S models became fruitless. Sort of a 2 - 3 year in planning purchase. Now add in all the head gasket, headers, struts/shocks, sways, etc I have installed for friends...I sort of know what works and doesn't.

SR20DETpower
09-21-2004, 02:33 PM
wow you worked on like 8 cars, hold on let me get you a gold for competing in the special olympic junkyard wars LOL

i work on 8 cars on a good day, my family has owned a transmission shop for god damn near 33 years now in the same building, so anyone who's in the mechanic business would know that speaks for itself right there.

wow you been on the internet since 1983, I didn't know they had it back then, but I don't know EVERYTHING now, you must not get laid much to be on the internet for 21 years LMFAO.

come on keep on replying, you make yourself sound like an idiot when u tell someone to stop arguing but you yourself are doing it a few times after you say it... LOL.. I won't stop man, I know your kind too, they are a bunch of online chicken shits, and its easily amusing to give punks like you a rough time, just to see how bad your panties get in a bunch

alkemyst
09-21-2004, 02:59 PM
They had milnet and arpanet back then...if you have to ask...

also how does your daddy's 33 years experience translate to you? Where do you get 8 years out of that past equation....I also forgot the 1988 GT I built up as well.... I started at 16 with the 1966 GT by the way.

Also where is the logic in being on the internet the past x year = not being laid much? They have nothing to do with each other. No matter what the reply to that is it is a child's reply. Also the child's reply is bringing up daddy's shop.

I have all my own tools, I have had my *own* garage, as an adult you stop mentioning the things daddy does as your own.

I am far from scared of anything esp a kid still bringing up daddy stuck in a podunk town. 33 years of a business doesn't always equate into greatness. Also why would you even threaten me online regardless....sort of stupid as well.

alkemyst
09-21-2004, 03:25 PM
btw if your dad's shop happens to be Atlas. I have used them and they are a decent shop. Stood behind a bad gear set in my T5 they rebuilt (the 1988 GT).

R.W.240
09-21-2004, 03:31 PM
My Penis is still bigger :gay:

D-Bo
09-21-2004, 05:41 PM
you guys are fuckin hilarious.. btw does anybody else who's been following this thread know the site to get all the stock parts for 240s? i need a new shifter!!!!

SR20DETpower
09-21-2004, 05:51 PM
btw if your dad's shop happens to be Atlas. I have used them and they are a decent shop. Stood behind a bad gear set in my T5 they rebuilt (the 1988 GT).


nope we are better then that even LOL, we are very honest and use no advertising... to show how honest we are, only people who know us by word of mouth make appointments, today we had so many cars i had to move 4 cars just to pull one into a bay...and we have 8 bays. We also warantee all of our work for a year,

alkemyst
09-21-2004, 07:29 PM
nope we are better then that even LOL, we are very honest and use no advertising... to show how honest we are, only people who know us by word of mouth make appointments, today we had so many cars i had to move 4 cars just to pull one into a bay...and we have 8 bays. We also warantee all of our work for a year,

That's cool man...I think we got off the wrong foot here....

On a better note my VLSD came today.

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