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Cant_Handle_It
09-14-2004, 02:09 AM
were can i buy a xxx or a brahma and how long would i have to wait and how much money is it gonna cost for the amp and the sub who has them lol i kno there good but what setup do you people with them have?
sr20de4evr
09-14-2004, 08:04 AM
xxx - www.reaudio.com and you have you call to order, $399 + shipping so around $430 total. Should be available in a couple weeks
brahma - www.adireaudio.com, you can order from www.acoustic-visions.com, $440 shipped. Been on backorder for several months, but from what I hear it should be shipping again in the next couple weeks
amps - depends on the enclosure, to get the full potential you'll need ~1500 on the xxx or ~1000 on the brahma, how much this costs depends on the quality of the amp, but it should be anywhere from $300+
The rest of my setup is in my sig
brahma - www.adireaudio.com, you can order from www.acoustic-visions.com, $440 shipped. Been on backorder for several months, but from what I hear it should be shipping again in the next couple weeks
amps - depends on the enclosure, to get the full potential you'll need ~1500 on the xxx or ~1000 on the brahma, how much this costs depends on the quality of the amp, but it should be anywhere from $300+
The rest of my setup is in my sig
Brandish
09-14-2004, 03:14 PM
If you happen to be a canuck you could try www.sixteenstudios.com or www.creativesound.ca and order from them to save some money on customs. Shipping is $1, I believe.
As mentioned above, power handling totally depends on box. I had my Brahma 15 running off a JBL 1200.1 in a 2.85 ft^3 sealed enclosure until the amp croaked, and it was positively the most sickening low-end I've ever heard in my life... And that's in a sealed box. I plan to try ported when I find myself a new amp to really unleash the power. The JBL amp cost me about US$272. I don't think the 1200.1 is in production anymore, but you can probably still find them on Ebay for pretty cheap. Another amp I see reccommended a lot is the Hifonics Brutus 1500d, and it's around the same price range I believe.
As mentioned above, power handling totally depends on box. I had my Brahma 15 running off a JBL 1200.1 in a 2.85 ft^3 sealed enclosure until the amp croaked, and it was positively the most sickening low-end I've ever heard in my life... And that's in a sealed box. I plan to try ported when I find myself a new amp to really unleash the power. The JBL amp cost me about US$272. I don't think the 1200.1 is in production anymore, but you can probably still find them on Ebay for pretty cheap. Another amp I see reccommended a lot is the Hifonics Brutus 1500d, and it's around the same price range I believe.
Integra4200
09-14-2004, 11:39 PM
noob to car audio here i got a few questions.would that Brahma 12" hit harder then most subs i see out there like kickers and JL audio and stuff like that? and also is it considered SQL or SPL?
sr20de4evr
09-15-2004, 12:01 AM
the brahma 12 would be louder than just about any 12" sub available, the only exceptions being the other supersubs (idmax, w7, xxx, DD991*, etc).
And it's a SQL sub, designed mainly for pure sound quality and low distortion, but it also has the ability to get very loud. The downside is you pay for it, you can find a kicker 12L7 for $200 brand new, and a brahma 12 is $380 new. The kicker can't get quite as loud, but you could buy 2 of them for the price of a single brahma. The difference in sound quality is what gives the brahma the edge though, it absolutely stomps all over the kickers when it comes to accurate reproduction of sound, transient response, etc.
And it's a SQL sub, designed mainly for pure sound quality and low distortion, but it also has the ability to get very loud. The downside is you pay for it, you can find a kicker 12L7 for $200 brand new, and a brahma 12 is $380 new. The kicker can't get quite as loud, but you could buy 2 of them for the price of a single brahma. The difference in sound quality is what gives the brahma the edge though, it absolutely stomps all over the kickers when it comes to accurate reproduction of sound, transient response, etc.
Integra4200
09-15-2004, 03:46 PM
alright thanks. is there any place to get them cheaper then 380 a peice? like on ebay or something. i'll prolly end up getting two of them but i'll just have to save a little longer. also could i get a link to a good amp to power 1 of these brahma 12's? also i really dont have the time to bulid a box for one so where would be the best place to get a box bulit for one?
sr20de4evr
09-15-2004, 04:12 PM
unless you get them used on ebay, you can't get them for less than $380
Don't get a pair of 12's, just get a 15. It will take up about the same amount of space, won't get quite as loud but it will be close, and it will cost a LOT less.
As for boxes, there are a bunch of people who can custom make you one. Since I'm lazy I'm getting mine built by geolemon over at CAF:
http://www.betteraudio.com/geolemon/boxes
2.7cf sealed, carpetted, with internal motor support and bracing, $135.
Mr Cabinetry is also a good guy:
http://www.woodlawncabinetry.com/
As for an amp, there are thousands. You should get around 1000rms per sub, so anything that puts out ~1000x1 @ 1 or 4ohm would work well.
Don't get a pair of 12's, just get a 15. It will take up about the same amount of space, won't get quite as loud but it will be close, and it will cost a LOT less.
As for boxes, there are a bunch of people who can custom make you one. Since I'm lazy I'm getting mine built by geolemon over at CAF:
http://www.betteraudio.com/geolemon/boxes
2.7cf sealed, carpetted, with internal motor support and bracing, $135.
Mr Cabinetry is also a good guy:
http://www.woodlawncabinetry.com/
As for an amp, there are thousands. You should get around 1000rms per sub, so anything that puts out ~1000x1 @ 1 or 4ohm would work well.
Integra4200
09-15-2004, 05:38 PM
room isnt a problem for me. i drive a 75 cutlass. if any of you have seen these you kno what im talking about . i could fit like 4 15's in the trunk easy. but thanks for the advice on boxes.
Integra4200
09-15-2004, 05:41 PM
oh and what would be better a sealed box or ported?
Integra4200
09-15-2004, 06:24 PM
what are some good namebrands for amps? is sony any good? im seeing them everywhere
BlaZeNSmoKe
09-15-2004, 06:29 PM
No Sony do not have good amps. But there is a sticky called Car Audio FAQ at the top of the page. And it got a topic called "What brands to buy or not buy" on there. Trust me it helps.
sr20de4evr
09-15-2004, 06:32 PM
oh and what would be better a sealed box or ported?
depends on what you're going for
sealed will generally give a flatter in-car response and there's no group delay, meaning it's better for SQ
ported will be louder, and it will have a much stronger low end. It can still sound good as far as transients go, but IMO the low end is just too powerful to be very good from a pure sound quality point of view, unless you EQ it out of course. But most people aren't this picky, so just ignore most of what I say
depends on what you're going for
sealed will generally give a flatter in-car response and there's no group delay, meaning it's better for SQ
ported will be louder, and it will have a much stronger low end. It can still sound good as far as transients go, but IMO the low end is just too powerful to be very good from a pure sound quality point of view, unless you EQ it out of course. But most people aren't this picky, so just ignore most of what I say
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