Exhaust help
sylojai
02-10-2002, 06:10 PM
Hey everyone, I know I posted an earlier thread about which exhaust I should get but now I REALLY need your guys help in deciding which exhaust to purchase. Cuz the more I read into about the each exhaust the more indecisive I get. Right now I drive a 96 Civic EX AT coupe with stock everything. I'm going for performance rather than sound and looks. Also, going for more horsepower and torque in the lower to mid range RPMs. ( I barely push my car to 6-8RPM) I'm currently looking at the Apexi N1, Greddy Evo, and Thermal Stealth. Is the Stealth a full cat-back exhaust.......if not do they make one? I've heard/read good and bad things about each one, although less with the Thermal for some reason. APEXI......geared more for high end power but have read that people definitely feel the pull and low end power. GREDDY......read it has overall bandwidth power gains. THERMAL.......stealth is geared for low to mid range power but dunno how of a power gain. Right now, I'm leaning towards the Apexi exhaust mainly cuz I've heard a lot more better things about it especially with the power gains plus my friend just got one and I definitely feel the HP gains at start up. BUT I'm still iffy about it, so advice from guys that are already using these exhausts would be GREATLY appreciated. I'd like to get as many opinions as possible to help me decide on which exhaust to buy. Thanks dudes. :D
SRHguru
02-10-2002, 08:18 PM
Well, your definitely not gonna "feel" any horsepower gains with just exhaust. But, I would go with the thermal.
b16a2si
02-10-2002, 08:44 PM
I have a Greddy Evo on my Si and it's pretty nice. Like SRHguru said, you're really not going to notice much with just an exhaust on your Civic. If I had another opportunity to buy an exhaust for my car, it would either be the Thermal R&D or Greddy Evo.:D
OGRED
02-10-2002, 08:46 PM
i bought a Thermal and it sounds and looks really good, i enjoy it. and its less money than other exhuasts
b16a2si
02-10-2002, 08:51 PM
Aren't Thermal R&D exhausts made all out of Stainless Steel too?
OGRED
02-10-2002, 10:59 PM
yep it was all completely stainless steel that means it wont rust
sylojai
02-10-2002, 11:54 PM
Is the Thermal Stealth a cat back exhaust?
OGRED
02-11-2002, 03:52 AM
i believe so, but if you dont want it from the cat back then you could just buy the rear section which is the muffler tip and like a foot of pipe and get about the same sound.
www.importhorizon.com and check out their thermal r&d
www.importhorizon.com and check out their thermal r&d
RunninSOHC
02-11-2002, 05:02 PM
If you have an EX, SI, VTEC, or other top end Honda model keep the stock muffler and put a 2 1/4 pipe from the Catalytic Converter to the muffler. Get a new piece to fit from the 2 1/4 pipe to the muffler too. This removes the 1 1/4 pipe and the very restrictive Resonator. Get rid of the Resonater is the key to a Honda exaust. Leave the CAT or you will lose backpressure which you need, espicially for turbo. Gutting the CAT results in a Catalytic Rattle that is very annoying and heard between 3 - 8 k RPM's. Make a quiet custom stock exaust and you car will chirp 2nd gear even nastier; besides you'll be able to hear the intake. 2 1/4 saves gas and gets better mileage. Spending money on a loud bomb is not worth it. It adds no speed, unless it's a 1995 Saturn SC2. If that's the case go with RS Racing. But if it's for a HONDA Remove the resonator and stick with the stock muffler. Turbo requires 3 inch...........
ric
02-13-2002, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by RunninSOHC
If you have an EX, SI, VTEC, or other top end Honda model keep the stock muffler and put a 2 1/4 pipe from the Catalytic Converter to the muffler. Get a new piece to fit from the 2 1/4 pipe to the muffler too. This removes the 1 1/4 pipe and the very restrictive Resonator. Get rid of the Resonater is the key to a Honda exaust. Leave the CAT or you will lose backpressure which you need, espicially for turbo. Gutting the CAT results in a Catalytic Rattle that is very annoying and heard between 3 - 8 k RPM's. Make a quiet custom stock exaust and you car will chirp 2nd gear even nastier; besides you'll be able to hear the intake. 2 1/4 saves gas and gets better mileage. Spending money on a loud bomb is not worth it. It adds no speed, unless it's a 1995 Saturn SC2. If that's the case go with RS Racing. But if it's for a HONDA Remove the resonator and stick with the stock muffler. Turbo requires 3 inch...........
no comment.
If you have an EX, SI, VTEC, or other top end Honda model keep the stock muffler and put a 2 1/4 pipe from the Catalytic Converter to the muffler. Get a new piece to fit from the 2 1/4 pipe to the muffler too. This removes the 1 1/4 pipe and the very restrictive Resonator. Get rid of the Resonater is the key to a Honda exaust. Leave the CAT or you will lose backpressure which you need, espicially for turbo. Gutting the CAT results in a Catalytic Rattle that is very annoying and heard between 3 - 8 k RPM's. Make a quiet custom stock exaust and you car will chirp 2nd gear even nastier; besides you'll be able to hear the intake. 2 1/4 saves gas and gets better mileage. Spending money on a loud bomb is not worth it. It adds no speed, unless it's a 1995 Saturn SC2. If that's the case go with RS Racing. But if it's for a HONDA Remove the resonator and stick with the stock muffler. Turbo requires 3 inch...........
no comment.
Rice-Rocketeer
02-13-2002, 01:31 AM
:eek: LMFAO...That has to be the biggest load of bullshit all collected in one "informative" post that I've seen in a while. And I've seen some real shit.
sparq
02-13-2002, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by Rice-Rocketeer
:eek: LMFAO...That has to be the biggest load of bullshit all collected in one "informative" post that I've seen in a while. And I've seen some real shit. Sorta like how a 5th gen D-series motor wont bolt upto a 4th gen D-series motor? fugg you! :finger4:
Rene trying to tell me it wont work...
:argue:
My response to Rene...
:biggrin2:
:eek: LMFAO...That has to be the biggest load of bullshit all collected in one "informative" post that I've seen in a while. And I've seen some real shit. Sorta like how a 5th gen D-series motor wont bolt upto a 4th gen D-series motor? fugg you! :finger4:
Rene trying to tell me it wont work...
:argue:
My response to Rene...
:biggrin2:
ric
02-13-2002, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by sparq
Sorta like how a 5th gen D-series motor wont bolt upto a 4th gen D-series motor? fugg you! :finger4:
:biggrin2:
and why exactly would you want to bolt a motor up to a motor? nit wit....
Sorta like how a 5th gen D-series motor wont bolt upto a 4th gen D-series motor? fugg you! :finger4:
:biggrin2:
and why exactly would you want to bolt a motor up to a motor? nit wit....
Rice-Rocketeer
02-13-2002, 11:40 AM
:o :spit:
LMFAO...Just when I thought I'd seen the funniest shit on here....That was fucking classic!!!
:hehehe: :hehehe: :hehehe:
As the man once said "nuff said".:finger:
LMFAO...Just when I thought I'd seen the funniest shit on here....That was fucking classic!!!
:hehehe: :hehehe: :hehehe:
As the man once said "nuff said".:finger:
RunninSOHC
02-13-2002, 02:20 PM
Putting a loud exaust bomb on an automatic civic ex is not going to sound nice at all.......And we all know how automatic civic owners with exausts always miss the shift and hit the rev limiter........So if you want that Loud Automatic Shift to be heard and everyone to laugh at you put a bomb.
If you want performance my recomendation is to remove the resonater and put 2 1/4 piping to the stock ex muffler. The you have an Exaust with no noise. That way you'll be a little faster with no loud Automatic shifts.Automatic Civics get laughed at when they have Loud Exausts with auto......and Automatic Honda trannies go out when they're dogged.......espically if the owner doesn't flush it out often
If you want performance my recomendation is to remove the resonater and put 2 1/4 piping to the stock ex muffler. The you have an Exaust with no noise. That way you'll be a little faster with no loud Automatic shifts.Automatic Civics get laughed at when they have Loud Exausts with auto......and Automatic Honda trannies go out when they're dogged.......espically if the owner doesn't flush it out often
SRHguru
03-15-2002, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by RunninSOHC
Putting a loud exaust bomb on an automatic civic ex is not going to sound nice at all.......And we all know how automatic civic owners with exausts always miss the shift and hit the rev limiter........So if you want that Loud Automatic Shift to be heard and everyone to laugh at you put a bomb.
If you want performance my recomendation is to remove the resonater and put 2 1/4 piping to the stock ex muffler. The you have an Exaust with no noise. That way you'll be a little faster with no loud Automatic shifts.Automatic Civics get laughed at when they have Loud Exausts with auto......and Automatic Honda trannies go out when they're dogged.......espically if the owner doesn't flush it out often
Wow..... where do you pull this stuff from??
Putting a loud exaust bomb on an automatic civic ex is not going to sound nice at all.......And we all know how automatic civic owners with exausts always miss the shift and hit the rev limiter........So if you want that Loud Automatic Shift to be heard and everyone to laugh at you put a bomb.
If you want performance my recomendation is to remove the resonater and put 2 1/4 piping to the stock ex muffler. The you have an Exaust with no noise. That way you'll be a little faster with no loud Automatic shifts.Automatic Civics get laughed at when they have Loud Exausts with auto......and Automatic Honda trannies go out when they're dogged.......espically if the owner doesn't flush it out often
Wow..... where do you pull this stuff from??
sylojai
03-15-2002, 06:27 PM
Just to let u guys know..........I've put the order through for the Greddy Evo. I'll take pics of my babi after its installed. :D
SiRII
05-06-2003, 01:29 AM
i would've went with the N1. my friend has it on his 96 Ex 5spd.
HXCivic97
05-07-2003, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by RunninSOHC
If you have an EX, SI, VTEC, or other top end Honda model keep the stock muffler and put a 2 1/4 pipe from the Catalytic Converter to the muffler. Get a new piece to fit from the 2 1/4 pipe to the muffler too. This removes the 1 1/4 pipe and the very restrictive Resonator. Get rid of the Resonater is the key to a Honda exaust. Leave the CAT or you will lose backpressure which you need, espicially for turbo. Gutting the CAT results in a Catalytic Rattle that is very annoying and heard between 3 - 8 k RPM's. Make a quiet custom stock exaust and you car will chirp 2nd gear even nastier; besides you'll be able to hear the intake. 2 1/4 saves gas and gets better mileage. Spending money on a loud bomb is not worth it. It adds no speed, unless it's a 1995 Saturn SC2. If that's the case go with RS Racing. But if it's for a HONDA Remove the resonator and stick with the stock muffler. Turbo requires 3 inch...........
I just like how VTEC is now a Honda model. I missed that memo, apparently.
If you have an EX, SI, VTEC, or other top end Honda model keep the stock muffler and put a 2 1/4 pipe from the Catalytic Converter to the muffler. Get a new piece to fit from the 2 1/4 pipe to the muffler too. This removes the 1 1/4 pipe and the very restrictive Resonator. Get rid of the Resonater is the key to a Honda exaust. Leave the CAT or you will lose backpressure which you need, espicially for turbo. Gutting the CAT results in a Catalytic Rattle that is very annoying and heard between 3 - 8 k RPM's. Make a quiet custom stock exaust and you car will chirp 2nd gear even nastier; besides you'll be able to hear the intake. 2 1/4 saves gas and gets better mileage. Spending money on a loud bomb is not worth it. It adds no speed, unless it's a 1995 Saturn SC2. If that's the case go with RS Racing. But if it's for a HONDA Remove the resonator and stick with the stock muffler. Turbo requires 3 inch...........
I just like how VTEC is now a Honda model. I missed that memo, apparently.
TheRebirth
05-11-2003, 12:05 PM
i vote thermal
TheRebirth
05-11-2003, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by HXCivic97
I just like how VTEC is now a Honda model. I missed that memo, apparently.
It is ;)
I just like how VTEC is now a Honda model. I missed that memo, apparently.
It is ;)
91civicDXdude
05-11-2003, 02:13 PM
Del Sol VTEC
Prelude VTEC
it is a model fool :rolleyes:
Prelude VTEC
it is a model fool :rolleyes:
91civicDXdude
05-11-2003, 02:14 PM
Leave the CAT or you will lose backpressure which you need, espicially for turbo.
uh are you smoking crack? backpressure is bad, especially for turbo.
uh are you smoking crack? backpressure is bad, especially for turbo.
Plasmex
05-11-2003, 03:44 PM
I plan on buying thermal stealth for my car very soon, once i figure out what kind of civic to buy it for :( some people tell me 97 lx others tell me 99 si altho, when compared to a friends Si the cat resides in the same place, so once i find a reasonable price, im going to get the thermal stealth
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