Help with timing please
eclipse0138
09-12-2004, 02:04 AM
OK i have a 95 Gs i just bought and the car seems to be out of time and im not really sure how to adjust timing
Also the car has crower cams valve springs and retainer and aem cam gears im not sure if this will make a difference
thanks for any help im new to a 420a
Also the car has crower cams valve springs and retainer and aem cam gears im not sure if this will make a difference
thanks for any help im new to a 420a
kjewer1
09-12-2004, 06:01 AM
Need more info. "seems to be out of time" doesnt give us anything to go on here :)
EclipseRST
09-12-2004, 06:03 AM
whats the car doing? is the check engine light on? does it start? i need more info besides you saying "i think its out of time"
if the car starts, try using a timing light to see how far timing is off, if its off at all. if its within 10 degrees BTDC (before top dead center) or ATDC (after top dead center) then somewhere the belt jumped a tooth, if timing is right on then you have yourself another problem to figure out... if its off then here is some steps to check:
go thru and align all the timing marks, on the cam gears, crankshaft and all that good shit... everything should line up just perfectly but the crankshaft should be rotated 1/2 a tooth BTDC.
if the car starts, try using a timing light to see how far timing is off, if its off at all. if its within 10 degrees BTDC (before top dead center) or ATDC (after top dead center) then somewhere the belt jumped a tooth, if timing is right on then you have yourself another problem to figure out... if its off then here is some steps to check:
go thru and align all the timing marks, on the cam gears, crankshaft and all that good shit... everything should line up just perfectly but the crankshaft should be rotated 1/2 a tooth BTDC.
EclipseRST
09-12-2004, 06:03 AM
lol... we think alike! :thumbsup:
1stGenRocks
09-12-2004, 05:40 PM
dunno what it does nut if its just a rough idle it could be from the aftermarket cams
eclipse0138
09-12-2004, 08:35 PM
well the car starts and runs but it doesnt seem to put out the power it should. the idle is rough and i understand that alot of that is from the cams but sometimes it dies and theres times it doesnt. its just doesnt make a whole lot of since to me. ive adjusted the idleing and its still does it. And also when i turn my a/c on 90% of the will die
kjewer1
09-13-2004, 12:06 AM
Sounds more like an idle cntrol problem. ISC motor, etc.
eclipse0138
09-13-2004, 12:07 AM
how do i fix that
kjewer1
09-13-2004, 12:10 AM
Get a service manual for your car, it will outline ways to test that ISC. If you had a turbo car I could just tell you, but I'm not sure the chrysler motor uses the same ISC setup. If it tests bad, replace it. The reason I suspect the ISC is that its solely responsible for closed loop idle control (steady idle), and for bumping up air bypass when the AC is on to maintain idle. Its a good place to start. I'm sure the NT guys can give you other components to look into if the ISC tests good. Or the manual if it has a troublshooting section for idle control.
eclipse0138
09-13-2004, 09:20 AM
thanks man
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