Celica GTS vs Prelude
lude4henro
09-11-2004, 01:25 PM
I'm not too familiar with Toyota's but my friends friend wants to drag with me at the track. He says he'll beat me. He has a Celica GT with a GTS swap in it...just intake and catback. I have a 98 Prelude base model with intake, header, straight cat, catback, and pulley kit. How well is the Toyota's VVT-I and the GTS itself?
Kang114
09-11-2004, 01:42 PM
too many factors in this situation. prelude weighs significantly more, BUT preludes also got 160ishlbs Tq compared to the VVTI which has 131lb. Hp- only a 15hp diff between the two(stock-wise). youve also got more mods though. in a stock situation i would have the celica edging the lude out but in your case its more of a drivers race. Interestling comparison thouhg, lately ive been dying to race one of those GTSs myself :grinyes:
SiGNAL748
09-11-2004, 02:44 PM
I always thought the the gts' came with vvtli
SBallerk2
09-11-2004, 03:17 PM
damn...hard to say...let us know who won....
lude4henro
09-11-2004, 04:02 PM
I always thought the the gts' came with vvtli
Yes, my mistake. The GTS has VVTL-i...the regular GT and most other engines are VVT-i. Is VVTL-i the same as Honda's VTEC?
Yes, my mistake. The GTS has VVTL-i...the regular GT and most other engines are VVT-i. Is VVTL-i the same as Honda's VTEC?
lude4henro
09-11-2004, 04:07 PM
I been doing some research and found some specs about the GTS but his car has a GT body with a GTS engine so it is a little lighter. Curb weight is 2500lb with 180 hp @7600rpm and 130 lb ft torque @ 6800rpm. Why are Preludes so heavy?
del
09-11-2004, 04:25 PM
it's an even race. driver skill will win this race everytime. but all things being equal, i would say the GTS is the quicker car. the lude's weight is just too much of a burden. shed a couple hundred pounds and the prelude will eat up the gts.
VVTL-i is actually more advanced than the VTEC in preludes but works similarly. VTEC-i is about on the same level though.
VVTL-i is actually more advanced than the VTEC in preludes but works similarly. VTEC-i is about on the same level though.
Ghetto...
09-11-2004, 05:54 PM
Heh reminds me of my friends Cel, just his is supercharged...and somehow his came that way. Never raced him though so I have no clue.
sfc711
09-11-2004, 06:34 PM
I'm not too familiar with Toyota's but my friends friend wants to drag with me at the track. He says he'll beat me. He has a Celica GT with a GTS swap in it...just intake and catback. I have a 98 Prelude base model with intake, header, straight cat, catback, and pulley kit. How well is the Toyota's VVT-I and the GTS itself? I will run my car against any other 4cylinder out there. 1989 Conquest TSI
20g turbo
forged pistons
cam
balanced/blue printed
balance shafts removed
3 angle valve job
port and polish head and intake
bosch fuel pump(40 psi fuel)
turbo xs BOV RFL
3" turbo back - black A'pexi N1 exhaust
high flow 3" cat
240mm Clutchnet carbon/organic clutch w/HD pressure plate(installing today)
large FMIC
custom straight IC piping w/rotated throttle body
240mm12lb findanza flywheel
short shifter
110 GM alt conversion
red top optima battery relocated in trunk
A/F guage in stock boost gauge spot
autometer phantom oil pressure, water temp and boost in a custom dash mount gauge ho
20g turbo
forged pistons
cam
balanced/blue printed
balance shafts removed
3 angle valve job
port and polish head and intake
bosch fuel pump(40 psi fuel)
turbo xs BOV RFL
3" turbo back - black A'pexi N1 exhaust
high flow 3" cat
240mm Clutchnet carbon/organic clutch w/HD pressure plate(installing today)
large FMIC
custom straight IC piping w/rotated throttle body
240mm12lb findanza flywheel
short shifter
110 GM alt conversion
red top optima battery relocated in trunk
A/F guage in stock boost gauge spot
autometer phantom oil pressure, water temp and boost in a custom dash mount gauge ho
Phunyguy
09-11-2004, 07:09 PM
that's nice.. want a cookie? :loser:
SiGNAL748
09-11-2004, 07:25 PM
I will run my car against any other 4cylinder out there.
Yeah, and so would at least half the population of these forums :rolleyes:
Yeah, and so would at least half the population of these forums :rolleyes:
crzyCollegeKid
09-11-2004, 07:52 PM
i'll even take on a few v6s ;)
ZackKVtec
09-13-2004, 11:13 AM
i dont know guys, he has "cam"
crzyCollegeKid
09-13-2004, 11:40 AM
thats a different story...now things may be leaning a bit in his direction depending on how well he tuned it.
AcesHigh
09-13-2004, 12:09 PM
i dont know guys, he has "cam"
LOL.
LOL.
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