Aveo's!!!!!!

Does Anyone Know Anything About The Aveos, I Would Like To Get One Becuase I Know They Are Really Good On Gas Mileage. I Do Alot Of Driveing For My Job, And Gas Prices Arent Dropping Anytime Soon. Any Info Would Really Help. Reliability, Quality, Durability, Any Upgrades, Anything. Pro's/con's????????????????

first of all, why the hell would you upgrade an aveo? thats like putting slicks on your metro.

as for reliability, youll have a waranty if you buy new, i dont think there is many owners here.

I Was Just Curious, I Never Said That I Would Do That If I Get One. Im Just Facinated By The Things That People Can With Any Car.

Moving this to our new Aveo forum.

what the hell is with those aveos those thing are ugly as shit

what the hell is with those aveos those thing are ugly as shit

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some people dont look at them from the physical point of view but from an economical point of view. you can get one for less then 10grand. they also are said to have good mileage. im not gonna lie, they are ugly but for my job i do atleast 25000 to 30000 miles a year. my current car is 12 years old with 125000 miles on it. GAS PRICES ARE OUT THE ROOF, MY CAR GETS ABOUT 20-22 MILES PER GAL. NOT BAD FOR A CAR THATS THIS OLD, BUT ITS JUST GETTING TO BE TOO MUCH. i cant afford to keep paying for tows when something breaks. GETTING YOUR CAR TOWED 50MILES IS ALOT OF MONEY, NOT TO MENTION THE REPAIRS. THE IS A VERY ECONOMICAL CAR IN MY OPINION. NOW, BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION - DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INFO ON THESE CARS, PROS, CONS, RELIABILITY, ETC.........

An aveo is a Daewoo, research it. Do you really want a Korean car? They suck, true they are great on gas milage but they won't last long, i owned two deawoos with the same 1.6 etech engine in them and they are nothing but trouble, they have little power and don't hold up. You might want to think about it a little more. They can be upgraded a little but the parts are hard to find because not too many cars use that engine, but you can custom an exhaust and an intake for a few hp, i mean a few. Well everyone is intitled to their own opinion though and i guess some people may like the aveos but daewoo must have went bankrupt for a reason??????? hmm.

We gave out a free Aveo at the company that I work for. Every year we have a drawing for a free car. We use the proceeds to go toward the Children's Miracle Network. We usually give out a Honda Civic. This year we had the Aveo. Nobody wanted to enter the drawing. Everybody laughed at it. People didn't like the fact that it "is" a Chevy but there is a big sticker saying over 90% parts made in Korea. Looks like we are repeating the same thing like Chevy did with Geo. Little shitty cars that Chevy takes over and ends up hurting their name. Although I must say that I still see old Metros running around but you don't see Daewoos lastig that long.

my son got an Aveo a few months ago and it a perty nice car for $10,000 it has a little get up and go, its not no V-6 or V-8 but its ok. not sure what his gas mileage is. No problems yet, but for $10,000 drive it till something major goes wrong trade it in for another. You cant expect to much for that price.
As for the Chevy Geo. I had the Sprint when it first came out, the best little car I ever had. I drove the sh** out of it and never had to replace anything not even the clutch and it was still running strong with over 150,000 miles on it when my wife was rearended and totaled it out. I was still getting about 50 miles to the gal. with it

Wade

a guy i work with has a metro that has over 200,000 mile on the engine and transmission. as for my aveo i like it. but the rims are ugly. they have to go!!!

i see that is is old, but if your going to use it for work and put on 30k mile a year, get a hondo or toyota. they run forever

I have had mine since April it has over 6000 miles. no trouble hubby works for chevy dealer so i got it real cheap. Great on gas. the only things i can warn about is. Back seat belts changed there is a recall on 2 outer rear belts the retractors have problems. new one work great. rides good. not a sports car being i traded in the honda accord coupe i was use to but gets me where im going . no complaints here.. oh the trunk is huge and the car is suprisingly roomy.

We gave out a free Aveo at the company that I work for. Every year we have a drawing for a free car. We use the proceeds to go toward the Children's Miracle Network. We usually give out a Honda Civic. This year we had the Aveo. Nobody wanted to enter the drawing. Everybody laughed at it. People didn't like the fact that it "is" a Chevy but there is a big sticker saying over 90% parts made in Korea. Looks like we are repeating the same thing like Chevy did with Geo. Little shitty cars that Chevy takes over and ends up hurting their name. Although I must say that I still see old Metros running around but you don't see Daewoos lastig that long.



Give it to me I'll take the aveo.

Dawoos have mad problems, especially with timing belts and radios. Most of the techs where i worked refused to work on them, because they werent GM vehicles, to proove the point, when challenged by a sales person about the bowtie on the hood, a tech took a screwdriver and ripped the bowtie off, and then asked the sales person to find a GM part on the car. I cant say anything from experience but believe me, knowning what money pits dawoo products are, i would never drive an aveo.

Dawoos have mad problems, especially with timing belts and radios. Most of the techs where i worked refused to work on them, because they werent GM vehicles, to proove the point, when challenged by a sales person about the bowtie on the hood, a tech took a screwdriver and ripped the bowtie off, and then asked the sales person to find a GM part on the car. I cant say anything from experience but believe me, knowning what money pits dawoo products are, i would never drive an aveo.

I too am thinking of buying the Aveo. You put down the Korean parts in favor of GM parts? Are you kidding! I have a Chevy truck that is such a piece of crap I'm trading in for, most likely, the Aveo. My truck at only 94k miles is failing in every system. And especially in the major ones....rear end, tranny and engine. I drove a Hyundai Elntra for years, which I believe is Korean, and never had a problem. Knowing that GM didn't produce this car is a selling point for me. Too bad Suzuki didn't make it like they did the Geo.

I too am thinking of buying the Aveo. You put down the Korean parts in favor of GM parts? Are you kidding! I have a Chevy truck that is such a piece of crap I'm trading in for, most likely, the Aveo. My truck at only 94k miles is failing in every system. And especially in the major ones....rear end, tranny and engine. I drove a Hyundai Elntra for years, which I believe is Korean, and never had a problem. Knowing that GM didn't produce this car is a selling point for me. Too bad Suzuki didn't make it like they did the Geo.


Ok, first and foremost i am NOT trying to start an import vs domestic battle. I will be the first to volunteer that i was trained on GM systems, have worked on GM systems, and therefore when i was thrown into working on the daiwoo's it was foreign (pardon the pun) to me.

However, what i said stands true. At the dealership which i worked at, which by the way is from what i heard the largest supplier of daiwoo parts on the east coast, we had nothing but pain in the ass problems with them. It was so bad that many techs refused to work on them. And the ones who did rarley made any money because the work too so long compaired to what it paid. Now i understand the argument could be made that this was due to mechanics not being properly trained to work on the cars, and not being used to them, in several cases this was true, however we did have several techs who were daiwoo certified. All of us had problems with them. The two key problems we had were timing belts, and radio related problems. But there were other equaly annoying problems.

So basicly what im saying is a friendly warning, i mean no malice. I love my chevy's no doubt, but i am not an import basher. I dislike fords and dodge as much as daiwoo and honda. so please dont see me that way. If you are dead set on getting an inexpencive import car, because you feel imports are more reliable, i suggest going with a hyndia or honda. Thats all i am saying. take it or leave it.

Geo Metros are good till you get hit by a Semi. Then your a pancake on the road, and people in little hazmat suits are picking up your body parts and put them in plastic bags. That goes for Aveos to. They may be a little economical liberal car, but they are unsafe as crap.

Geo Metros are good till you get hit by a Semi. Then your a pancake on the road, and people in little hazmat suits are picking up your body parts and put them in plastic bags. That goes for Aveos to. They may be a little economical liberal car, but they are unsafe as crap.

Aveo gas a 5 star front impact rating and a 3 star side impact rating, much better than any Geo ever had. In fact they are safer than many larger cars. The Aveo is a different car than the Geo, it is made by the GM division of Daewoo in conjunction with Suzuki. Suzuki has a version of this car as does Pontiac . Swift+ Suzuki/Pontiac Wave Pontiac.
I have one and it does not ride or handle anything like the Geo, it isn't subject to wind as much, rides better, and is quieter and quicker.
Don't knock something unless you know the car and have one, I do and love it!

It may have a 5 star saftey rating, but thats at low speeds. And it doesent matter, your still toast if your going 80 and you slam into a semi, anyone in anything smaller than a Mini van is dead from that.

Thats why I feel safe riding in our pickup, cause i know if i hit another pickup, I'll walk away from teh crash

So the entire country should start driving pickup trucks and huge monster SUVs. Consume as much gas as possible and destroy anyone who gets in your way. And anyone who does not comply would be eliminated by means of natural selection. God bless the American way. Just in case you can't tell, the tone of this post is sarcasm!

i second that.

So the entire country should start driving pickup trucks and huge monster SUVs. Consume as much gas as possible and destroy anyone who gets in your way. And anyone who does not comply would be eliminated by means of natural selection. God bless the American way. Just in case you can't tell, the tone of this post is sarcasm!




In a word....YES!

I've upgraded from small cars when I first started driving (Cavalier), to compact pickups (S-10 truck then S-10 Blazer), now into a TrailBlazer. My next ca..er, truck? Silverado 2500 crew, Tahoe or Suburban. With what other accessories than a grille guard and a 'slight' lift kit. After that, who knows, probably a Hummer or a 3500 diesel.

Who cares about the gas? I don't know about you, but I wanna be as safe as possible in a crash. If the only way is in a 10 mpg truck then so be it. You only live once. God bless the American FREEDOM.

As for people being "naturally eliminated"...this world is overpopulated anyway :rofl: ....... :sly: seriously. Especially with ones that lack common sense. Make room for the endangered animals again.

Does Anyone Know Anything About The Aveos, I Would Like To Get One Becuase I Know They Are Really Good On Gas Mileage. I Do Alot Of Driveing For My Job, And Gas Prices Arent Dropping Anytime Soon. Any Info Would Really Help. Reliability, Quality, Durability, Any Upgrades, Anything. Pro's/con's????????????????
To answer the original question I own one and have ave 40 hw and 35 city :wave:

It's ignorant jackasses like yourself that cause the rest of the world to look down on Americans. I can understand because I too look down on you. There is a place for big vehicles like you mentioned, however using one for a commuter is just plain stupid. My only pleas is that you stay the hell out of this forum and leave it for the people who own an aveo and want to help other owners or for people researching the vehicle for potential purchase! I don't think anyone else gives a crap that you want to buy a truck!

In a word....YES!

I've upgraded from small cars when I first started driving (Cavalier), to compact pickups (S-10 truck then S-10 Blazer), now into a TrailBlazer. My next ca..er, truck? Silverado 2500 crew, Tahoe or Suburban. With what other accessories than a grille guard and a 'slight' lift kit. After that, who knows, probably a Hummer or a 3500 diesel.

Who cares about the gas? I don't know about you, but I wanna be as safe as possible in a crash. If the only way is in a 10 mpg truck then so be it. You only live once. God bless the American FREEDOM.

As for people being "naturally eliminated"...this world is overpopulated anyway :rofl: ....... :sly: seriously. Especially with ones that lack common sense. Make room for the endangered animals again.

I for one care about the gas milage. That is the main reason I bought my Aveo. I don't know about you but I can't afford to put 40 dollars or more a week in my gas tank.

as in my earlier post. purchased my aveo in april. i now have 14,000 miles and still satisfied. great on gas, runs the same, no rattles, had a slight wind leak but just needed adjustment on front passenger door. also YOU CAN PARK THESE THINGS ANYWHERE.lol You can almost park on the side walk or in the back of the huge truck that took your parking place, just pull out the 4 wheeler ramps and drive on in. heheheh also if yall experience a problem with the a/c not cooling, gm likes to put in a little less freon then there is suppose to be in them, very little but it does make a difference. and if you have a chevy trucks usually from the factory they are mssing a little transmission flluid, but usually taken care of if caught by pdi dept at dealer . at our local gm dealer none of the guys here have any problems working on them as far as the mechanic side goes. have yet to get one in the body shop.

Well mine is in the shop right now but we enjoy driving the car as much as our truck. It is relatively comfortable the radio sounds good the sunroof is cool and the gas mileage is getting better. Currently 29 up from 28. I purposely sey out to buy the cheapest new car I could find so as not to get stuck with someone else's used nightmare. I may or may not regret it. Only time will tell. We tend to baby our vehicle and do not do any engine mod's. Ask me in 10 years what I think.
Good luck.

Well mine is in the shop right now but we enjoy driving the car as much as our truck. It is relatively comfortable the radio sounds good the sunroof is cool and the gas mileage is getting better. Currently 29 up from 28. I purposely sey out to buy the cheapest new car I could find so as not to get stuck with someone else's used nightmare. I may or may not regret it. Only time will tell. We tend to baby our vehicle and do not do any engine mod's. Ask me in 10 years what I think.
Good luck. :2cents: I agree with you, I drive my Aveo sanely and plan on doing No Modification to it either engine or body. It is the first new car I have had that has had no problems to be rectified by dealer, I HAVE 4,000+ MILES SO FAR. It is an ideal everyday car, in the lines of the extint GEO but Better. PS I am a 67 year old GM Retiree and buy only GM vehicles. :smile:

The 5yr. 60,000 mile warranty help sell this to me. Plus it being real cheap. I have a wife, a 1 yr old son and a new house and don't want to have to worry about paying too much for repairs. It will be covered until I pay it off. Also I just laid down my 1990 Geo Prizm. It finally gave up after 250,000 miles and 15 yrs. No major repairs on that just the usual. Never even had to get a new clutch. If my Aveo last that long I will be very happy.

Geo Metros are good till you get hit by a Semi. Then your a pancake on the road, and people in little hazmat suits are picking up your body parts and put them in plastic bags. That goes for Aveos to. They may be a little economical liberal car, but they are unsafe as crap.
HELLO if you get hit by a semi it doesn't matter what you are driving

This question is for those who have other cars (and therefore can compare the aveo): is the vibration at the steering wheel normal for this type of vehicle? Mine is a 2004 with 12,000 miles, other than that, I am happy.

Camper

HELLO if you get hit by a semi it doesn't matter what you are driving

Vibration could be caused by any factor, the first would be wheel balance, the second a bent rim. Jack car up and spin wheel in neutral by hand, see if there is any runout (wobble). switch rear tires with front tires and see if there is a difference.I have no vibration or pulling on my front end, it is smooth. I have heard of rims being bent by contact with a pothole.

This question is for those who have other cars (and therefore can compare the aveo): is the vibration at the steering wheel normal for this type of vehicle? Mine is a 2004 with 12,000 miles, other than that, I am happy.

Camper

I have a 2004 Aveo with a similar problem that was there from new. The vibration is noticeable at 50-75 on smooth freeway surfaces and seems to come and go. I made 3 visits to Chev service so far and no fix. The first visit was to the closest dealer at 1300 mi. to balance tires and aim headlights and they said they didn't have equipment to work on tires and it wouldn't be covered by warranty! I contacted Chev Cust Assistance who referred me to another Chev dealer. They balanced and rotated 4 tires but the vibration is still there at 2800 mi. Went back today and they said: No trouble found. Only "road force vibration" was noticed. I had asked for them to check any brake/rotor source because I had experienced some scraping noise that came and went about 3 times. I like the car and I know that I won't get the perfect ride and feel, but this is not normal.
That makes 3 visits to dealers for this problem so far.
Does anybody else have this happening?

Thanks for replying to this question. My aveo has been taken to the shop about 3 times and they have trouble shooted the tires, tire rods, balancing, rims, etc. but nothing...it still has the wheel shaking at about 50-55 mph. I don't think it is related to the brakes because the brake pedal never pulsates when pressed.

I have read in other forums and in this forum where this has been a problem. I just wanted to know if "every" aveo has a little shaking at the steering wheel when driving at normal highway speeds. Are these cars prone to this type of problem?

I love my Aveo. It sips gas, drives well, and is fun to drive. I couldn't afford to drive a big car, and I wanted a newer car than my trusty old '87 Jimmy. I am happy with my Aveo. But a racer, it's NOT. That's ok with me. I recommend it.

So the entire country should start driving pickup trucks and huge monster SUVs. Consume as much gas as possible and destroy anyone who gets in your way. And anyone who does not comply would be eliminated by means of natural selection. God bless the American way. Just in case you can't tell, the tone of this post is sarcasm!
Just use the <Sarcasm> </Sarcasm> icons

Seems to me that since GM owns Daewoo, all the parts on the car are GM Parts.

Seems to me that since GM owns Daewoo, all the parts on the car are GM Parts.

That should make it easier to get parts, I would presume.

My mission is to get some parts that aren't offered here in the US..like the center console armrest that pops up on ebay ever so often...

In a word....YES!

I've upgraded from small cars when I first started driving (Cavalier), to compact pickups (S-10 truck then S-10 Blazer), now into a TrailBlazer. My next ca..er, truck? Silverado 2500 crew, Tahoe or Suburban. With what other accessories than a grille guard and a 'slight' lift kit. After that, who knows, probably a Hummer or a 3500 diesel.

Who cares about the gas? I don't know about you, but I wanna be as safe as possible in a crash. If the only way is in a 10 mpg truck then so be it. You only live once. God bless the American FREEDOM.

As for people being "naturally eliminated"...this world is overpopulated anyway :rofl: ....... :sly: seriously. Especially with ones that lack common sense. Make room for the endangered animals again.

I'm not trying to start any lame forum fights that no one wins, but here it goes anyway. Some of you guys are such idiots. Trucks and SUVs are a false sense of security!!! I don't want to be in an accident PERIOD. With a Semi, Truck, SUV, or little ass Aveo. Depending on the accident, it won't matter what you drive. Trucks and SUVs are top heavy. I've seen accidents where they have hit a sports car and flipped causing more injuries to themselves than to the people in the sports car. And both vehicles were totaled anyway. As for the gas, if you wana spend more money for gas just to drive a big vehicle, more power to you. And for import or domestic vehicles.... who cares. Every one makes parts for everyone else. There is NO manufacturer that has all of there own parts in their vehicles. Unless you wana spend 250,000+ for a lambo or equivalent car. And even those vehicles probally have at least one Mitsubishi sensor on it somewhere.

LOL In closing your honor.... I think everyone should just get off their high horse on who's vehicle is better than the other person's and just try to help each other out. Everyone has their own opinions and is entitled to them. But for God's sake, stop arguing over trivial things. Cars have there strong points, Trucks and SUVs have theirs. No one person is right or wrong. I guess what all this is about is... Just try to help each other out and not argue over stupid shit. I hate nothing more than to read through all the arguements just to get to something important.

I'm not trying to start any lame forum fights

I hate nothing more than to read through all the arguements just to get to something important.

Great Post! Now on with the forum. I just purchased an 05 Aveo LS Sedan this last weekend. (5 spd Standard, AM-FM). The dealership is shipping it out to have cruise installed tomorrow. So far I have only put 200 mi on it, however that really isn't enough to tell if I have any problems yet. I will be putting 40 miles a day Monday - Friday on it. As far as problems, the way I see it, I have an extended bumper - bumper warrenty and if I should have any problems I will let the good folks at the dealership know about it. The great thing is, the dealership is less then a 1/2 mile from my work. I won't mind dropping it off and having them take me to work and pick me up. That's the GM way.

I did a lot of research when I decided to buy another car. It came down to the Echo, Hyundai, and Aveo. After test driving all of them, I decided on the Aveo. It was more comfortable, and drove very well. About the only thing I have to get over is the color (Aqua).

Jbenton757

Heh. So that SUV guy has a high paying job as a bill collector so gas isn't an issue. And he want's to make sure anyone he hits dies. Personally if getting run over by semi's is such an issue, perhaps you need to consider relocating to a safer region of the country. Cause if the semi doesn't get you, the increase in your insurance rates and the price of gas will.
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As far as vibrations, not many yet. 1500 miles on an '05 LT. It does vibrate at idle, although didn't when I got it. Might just be low on oil. Vibration at freeway speed would indicate some tire type issue to me. Mine seems fine so far and I've been up to 75mph. Although I think the speedometer might be geared higher than it's actually going.

Currently doing the ECM recall thing. Diagnostic software upgrade does seem odd though. But I was taking it in to have the timing checked anyway. It's tending to surge when it's cold and starting to idle rough now. Perhaps that upgrade will fix it. Or maybe the computational automatic death of vehicle is being adjusted from 35K miles to 37K miles. Gotta love computers.

The only real issues I have at the moment is the A/C doesn't seem to be effective. And the LED odometer is impossible to read when driving in the general direction of the sun. And it's a little wobbly when in heavy side wind territory at freeway speeds, quite common in the part of texas I'm in. Other than that it's fun to drive and great to park. Gas mileage is average in my opinion. But it's quite roomy for it's size.

Originally I was gonna get a cobalt. But the Aveo's seats were much nicer to sit in. And the cobalt's trunk didn't have a big enough entrance to actually put anything other than a bag of groceries into it. I couldn't even get a suitcase into it. Much less a lawnmower. Not a problem with the Aveo.

I picked my Aveo up from the dealership yesterday, after they installed the cruise. It works pretty good. This will definately help with saving gas as the price just went up to $2.56 in Oklahoma City.

Jbenton757

I'm a GM tech, working at a Chevy store. We're in a small, farm community and sell mostly trucks and SUV's, and we've only sold two Aveos so far. My thoughts:

The Korean product has improved a lot since the Daewoo Pontiac of 1989 or so. That car was definitely a POS. But GM made the right decision in marketing the Prism - a Toyota Corolla with a Chevy badge. The Prism, I am sorry to say, was probably the most trouble-free car GM has ever sold, bar none. And safe, too. A solid car, for it's size.

The Sprint and Metro (which were, BTW, Suzuki products), though reasonably reliable, are way too small for my liking. I'm a volunteer firefighter and EMT. I've seen a lot of crashes. Personally, I like more steel around me. For this reason, I would never own one of these little cars (or a Tracker, which is in the same class, IMO).

My advice would be, if you want reasonably good fuel economy (like 25-30) in a reasonably-priced car (< $10K), look around and find yourself a nice, low-mileage '98-2000 Lumina. Get it professionally inspected before you buy. They can be had for much less than the price of a new Aveo (usually for $5 - 8K). The mileage is good, and I can attest from personally having had to cut a few up with the Jaws of Life that these are TOUGH cars. You'll be safe in a GM W-body. Sorry to say, I don't care what the "crash test rating" of the Aveo is... the rear bumper is three feet from the back seat. You won't catch me riding in one.

Buying a used car is, of course, a calculated risk, but you can minimize it by choosing a basically reliable car (Like the W-body) and getting it checked out by YOUR mechanic before the sale.

IMHO.

I just recently purchased a 2004 chevy aveo with 13000 miles on it. I test drove the Ford focus, dodge neon, toyota prius, honda insight and a coupple of others and then whent back to the Aveo and test drove it about 100 miles before I bought it. I found it to be more confortable and smooth (expecially against the insight) than the other cars. I have a 4X4 Fullsize chevy truck but it was killing me on gas just commuting around town or taking trips... The truck has its place and that was too pull the trailer and haul stuff. Yes its big but no, I don't drive it around to intemidate small cars like that screwed up guy eairlyer in the post, I use it to work and do personal projects. I don't need that all the time so thats why bought the car. Now the truck sits until i need it.

I also drove the Aveo alot on the dirt road and as i mentioned eariler, it handles very well and is extremly smooth expecially for the price.

As with trouble with it, I drive it at 80 mph with no vibration whatsoever. I have found out that (could be just mine) that the speed-o-meter is about 4-5 mph fast than actual speed at 70 mph. I used a GPS to figure this out. Also being a half way descent mechanic, It looks easier to work on than a few other cars that are out there, expecially the hybrids.

I have owned my Aveo since they first came out and I have no problems with it at all. I love driving it and it is fun to modify aswell!

I love my Aveo LS and have had it since it first cam out. I have 6000 miles on mine and it runs great! I would highly reccomend one to anyone that is intersted in it already. All I did was drop mine 2" and throw some 17" chrome epics on it and looks and drives great. Good luck with your choice!!!!

Looks Good! What Are The Size Wheels/tires And Did It Affect Your Gas Mileage Up Or Down?
Thanx.

They wheels did not really effect my gas milage as far as I have noticed. I did have to modifiy the rear suspension after throwing the wheels though because the inner part of the tire whould rub against the rear shock housing. I adjusted the shocks and re-tweeked camber to get everything riding smoothly as it should. theThe wheels/tires are 215/40/R17. Thanks for the kind words bro!

ne1 else wit a hooked up aveo?

Aveo gas a 5 star front impact rating and a 3 star side impact rating, much better than any Geo ever had. In fact they are safer than many larger cars. The Aveo is a different car than the Geo, it is made by the GM division of Daewoo in conjunction with Suzuki. Suzuki has a version of this car as does Pontiac . Swift+ Suzuki/Pontiac Wave Pontiac.
I have one and it does not ride or handle anything like the Geo, it isn't subject to wind as much, rides better, and is quieter and quicker.
Don't knock something unless you know the car and have one, I do and love it!

HEY SAFEY IDIOT....DO SOME RESERCH ON HOW THEY RATE SAFEY....TAKE A 2500 POUND CAR AT 35 MPH IT FARES WELL ON A CRASH ON A WALL DESIGENED TO ACT LIKE ANOTHER 2500 POUND CAR AND MOST CARS ON THE AMERCIAN ROADWAY ARE NEARLY OR OVER 2 TONS MINE IS 4120 POUNDS SO TAKE A 4000 POUNDER AND DRIVE 20 MPH AIMING HEAD ON WITH THE 2500 POUND CAR GOING 20 MPH WHO IS MORE LIKEY TO WALK AWAY IF BOTH HAVE 5 STAR CRASH TEST RATINGS HUMM...GET THE PONIT WHY DO YOU THINK IDIOTS DRIVING SMALL CARS ARE THE 1ST TO DIE?

I suppose this thread will never end because there are so many idiots like yourself on the road. I really don't understand why stupid people like you scour the web forums to make such stupid comments! It really is quite annoying to read through this nonsense. I normally ignore stupidity, but just couldn't let it go today. Why do you care so much what kind of car others are driving? And I know you don't care about the safety of anyone else on the road. You obviously only care about yourself (your attitude on this forum speaks volumes). Obviously people are buying these cars and other similar small cars. Some will probably die...and so will a lot of other people driving bloated vehicles. Finally, I beg that anyone else scouring the web, like yourself just dying to make a stupid comment, keep it to yourself! Or talk about it in the forum appropriate to your car. You can all get together and have a hoot ragging on small vehicles. Oh, imagine the fun!

EDIT: I almost forgot to mention how impressed I am that your vehicle weighs 4,120 pounds. WOW! I'm in awe. The women must be all over you. He, he, he!

I suppose this thread will never end because there are so many idiots like yourself on the road. I really don't understand why stupid people like you scour the web forums to make such stupid comments! It really is quite annoying to read through this nonsense. I normally ignore stupidity, but just couldn't let it go today. Why do you care so much what kind of car others are driving? And I know you don't care about the safety of anyone else on the road. You obviously only care about yourself (your attitude on this forum speaks volumes). Obviously people are buying these cars and other similar small cars. Some will probably die...and so will a lot of other people driving bloated vehicles. Finally, I beg that anyone else scouring the web, like yourself just dying to make a stupid comment, keep it to yourself! Or talk about it in the forum appropriate to your car. You can all get together and have a hoot ragging on small vehicles. Oh, imagine the fun!

EDIT: I almost forgot to mention how impressed I am that your vehicle weighs 4,120 pounds. WOW! I'm in awe. The women must be all over you. He, he, he!


well actilly alot of people like my suv one in fact swicthed from a civic to a suv of the same model and year as mine after having a ride in it she liked it so much and my other 2 friends swicthed from a escort to my model 1 year older and one with a shadow swicthed to my model 1 year newer hes happy with it and shes happy with it and all 3 say they will never own a small car again now in regards to my caring for safely well guess what i would not have showed my friends reports on how dangorus their car can be compared to the avg. vechile so i care about ptople safely yet i am surpized people neglet ther own safely when driving recklessly and buying small cars and removing safey items for that matter is even more idioty and then also a friend with a aveo in wich is why i was looking at the form is condersing selling it due to the fact he also likes my car and wants one like it i swiched from my car a old mazda 323 to a suv and liked it so much i replaced it with one of the same model 10 years newer ! don't mind paying more gas for my life i have seen engoutgh fatal accdents.. i commuite alot and yet my driving recored is seaky clean go fiurue oh and need i mention i noticed that cops target small cars more when speeding !!!!

Aveos --- CRAP, not even that fuel efficiant for the size of them.. and everything about them is junk ... trust me and all the guys that work at the dealership

I suppose this thread will never end

Actually I'm ending it right now.