another boy question...

I've seen alot of S13 Silvias on the net with the R32 rear bumper in place. Do they fit right on with a new trunk and lights, Or do you have to modify like crazy?

-Justin

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Dont Do A Conversion Please!!!!!!!!

http://img81.exs.cx/img81/1533/s13.jpg
http://img81.exs.cx/img81/94/s132.jpg

its not that hard to do a conversion liek that.. but is expensive and ricey... you will be laughed at and you will get no respect

I beg the differ...

If you look at the profile of an S13 Coupe, and an R32... They look damn like body line wise.

And being in America and all, not too many people have any idea what a real Skyline looks like.

So lets say you get an RB20DET front clip... The front body panels come on as well.

So you swap in the RB powertrain, mold on the front body panels, and do the rear conversion. Hey, you have yourself a LHD Skyline R32 basically.

I think it's a good idea, one that I have been contemplating for quite a while, but dont have the body work knowledge to get it off the ground.

Anyways, I dont think of it as ricey at all... Ricey is S15 Headlights on a '91 Civic.

In my opinion...

-Wes

Still though he wont get any respect form the real car guys. Yea the ricers will like it, but trust me, enthusiests wont. Do you have a SR20DET in there? Because if you did it would be a waste of that engine.

Still though he wont get any respect form the real car guys. Yea the ricers will like it, but trust me, enthusiests wont. Do you have a SR20DET in there? Because if you did it would be a waste of that engine.



What you mean to say is that narrow minded people who think they know everything won't like it due to thier own ignorance. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I beg the differ...

If you look at the profile of an S13 Coupe, and an R32... They look damn like body line wise.

And being in America and all, not too many people have any idea what a real Skyline looks like.

So lets say you get an RB20DET front clip... The front body panels come on as well.

So you swap in the RB powertrain, mold on the front body panels, and do the rear conversion. Hey, you have yourself a LHD Skyline R32 basically.

I think it's a good idea, one that I have been contemplating for quite a while, but dont have the body work knowledge to get it off the ground.


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On images that large next time don't hot link them please. They are too damn large. Just post links as such.

Thank you
Raz

I beg the differ...

If you look at the profile of an S13 Coupe, and an R32... They look damn like body line wise.

And being in America and all, not too many people have any idea what a real Skyline looks like.

So lets say you get an RB20DET front clip... The front body panels come on as well.

So you swap in the RB powertrain, mold on the front body panels, and do the rear conversion. Hey, you have yourself a LHD Skyline R32 basically.

I think it's a good idea, one that I have been contemplating for quite a while, but dont have the body work knowledge to get it off the ground.

Anyways, I dont think of it as ricey at all... Ricey is S15 Headlights on a '91 Civic.

In my opinion...

-Wes


Close in what way, appearance? Actually they are not close at all in body pannel wise though the chassis are fairly close, they are not close enough. While the S13 and the R32 non-GTR do share many simularities that is about where it ends.

For those that own a 240 turning it into a sibbling, S13, S14, S15 makes a whole lot more sence than doing what you are implying. It is no different than doing the same thing with the S15 head lights onto a Civic. Just because it is Nissan onto Nissan makes absolutely no difference at at all. At the end of the day it is NOT a Skyline but kitted up Nissan S13 or 240sx.

For me personally I would rather piss on that car than sit in it. Why? Simply because some tosser (jackoff) is trying to make his car into something that it is not. Note building a race car or show car is different, but as we all know this knob nibbler will claim it is something which it isn't. They all do.

On images that large next time don't hot link them please. They are too damn large. Just post links as such.

Sorry bout that. I didn't realize they were so freaking big until after I posted them. They aren't that big on the site.

In Japan it is really common to have cars that are a blend of different cars... ie Skyvias/Sileighties/Onevias/Cefirels and such.

Don't forget the Stagea. And that beast was actually MADE by Nissan!

Your very right RazorGTR. Conversions are like taking credit for something else. Its sorta like your car is going to be a poser. I hate them

No worries Gladhatter :)

Until recently I never thought the steaga to be a beast, but more of a family car, since it is a wagon. That of course was until here in New Zealand one of our rather crazy skyling buggers dropped an RB26 into that is pushing some huge power. How fast it is? How about an 11.7 1/4 with a car that tips the scales on about 2 tonnes! Not sure on the power but it would have to be in up nearer the 600hp mark easy.

As far as customizing cars I've always had mixed views on it. Making something special is always individual specific, however turning a car into a look alike of another model just isn't on. It reminds me of when Pontiac did that special run of the Ferio which looked like a Ferrari. While at first it was a novelity but that wore off quickly.

I the Honda Prelude into Skyline conversions. I even seen a Civic into a Celica conversion. Thats sad. I dont hate body-kits, I just like the clean good looking ones. But the cheap ricer ones are bad.

No worries Gladhatter :)

Until recently I never thought the steaga to be a beast, but more of a family car, since it is a wagon. That of course was until here in New Zealand one of our rather crazy skyling buggers dropped an RB26 into that is pushing some huge power. How fast it is? How about an 11.7 1/4 with a car that tips the scales on about 2 tonnes! Not sure on the power but it would have to be in up nearer the 600hp mark easy.

As far as customizing cars I've always had mixed views on it. Making something special is always individual specific, however turning a car into a look alike of another model just isn't on. It reminds me of when Pontiac did that special run of the Ferio which looked like a Ferrari. While at first it was a novelity but that wore off quickly.

I've loved the Stagea for some time, the Autech and Nismo 260RS versions are bad ass! Both using the GTR's engine and 4wd drivetrain. Now that's a family car I would gladly drive!

Autech: http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/html/stagea.html
Nismo: http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/html/stageanis.html

As far as the body swaps/etc. I have to say that it depends on the reason and direction. On this subject, one of my favorite conversions is the Stagea Autech 260RS with the GTR front end. Here's an example:
http://www.monkys.jp/e/ucar/WGNC24R34.htm

I think it looks sweet. In the US, it would be considered a ricer wanting to pretend he has a GTR. But, in Japan, it's making a nice looking wagon that has the GTR's heart and soul (engine and drivetrain) look even better by putting the GTR face on it. Now, the key difference from the US and Japan, look at the back end, no GTR badge, the Japanese don't like to make false claims. As far as the front badge, it is a GTR front end so it's a vague area. But, it's got to be embarassing, to have what you saw to be a GTR in your mirror blow by, and find out it was a station wagon!

As far as the 240 with the Skyline tail lights, I don't mind it. I love the two door R32 tail lights. I don't like the 240sx tail lights. So I would consider it myself. (I hated the R32's 4 door tail lights, so I put the R32's 2 door lights and bumper on my 4 door) In my opinion, that first one one pictured was done in the Japanese spirit, you can't see a Skyline name or badges. He knows it's not a Skyline and not claiming it to be one.

Many people consider that body conversions are examples of ricer US ignorance, and in most cases they are right. The Hondas with Skyline lights, etc. molded in with the Honda badges removed and GTR badges put on are prime examples. But if you look at the Japanese car scene, body conversions are very common (and engine conversions). Especially in the drift scene where body parts are changed so often. I have many Japanese drift magazines with tons of examples which include:
300ZX with R32 Skyline tail lights
R32 Skyline with R33 front end
and my favorite, a Toyota Chaser with a Mercedes front end!
A VERY good/clean conversion, it looks great seeing the Mercedes front end coming at you when the car's drifting! (provided you're on the inner part of the corner obviously)

Yea, but a Nissan R32 4 door is pretty close to a 3 door. But a 240 is a totally different car than the R32. I dont mind seeing 89 240SX conversions into S13, because they are exactly the same car as the S13, exept the front. And I REALLY HATE the Honda into GTR conversions.

I saw a Prelude made up to look like an R33... Woah dude, no.

As for the 240sx-R32 conversion... I am sure you know how hard it is to get a legal Skyline into America... So lets see... If you do the conversion, you will have a car that slightly resembles an R32, and has the same powertrain.

Granted, it would take some kind of work to get the lines correct, but hey, its America, who is really going to notice the difference.

90% of people in America, when they hear the word Skyline, they think of a cluster of tall buildings.

And another large part of the other percentage, has never seen a real one, nor would be able to tell the difference between a real one, or a converted one.

But I do agree, it does seem pretty silly once you step back and think about it. But it would still be a fun project, and a pretty neat end product...

In my opinion...

-Wes

Very true what you said. When people ricers hear Skyline, they get red in the face, and there pants get tighter.....but most of them dont know shit about them. Yea they would like conversions, but a lot of people wont. I hate em, and thats my opinion.