RS4 coming to US?

Hey, just wondering if the RS4 was coming to the US. i heard rumors that they were adapting a biturbo kit for the 3.0 for the next RS4 (05 or 06), and was wondering if ne1 knew when it would come to us and how much it would cost.

comming in 07 idk the price

it would be the 3.2 currently in the TT that would be twin-turboed...the 3.2 is replacing the 3.0 for the redesigned A4

i thought it was a 3.0 twin turbo??

actually were both wrong...the 4.2 V8 is going to be in it...420hp, 317 ft/lbs torque...and from my understanding its normally aspirated (no turbos)...and its going to a 2006

the only normally aspirated german high performance cars are the BMW M3 and M5. Merc and Audi both have supercharged engines. The 4.2 would no dought be supercharged. And I would expect a price of about $60k-$75k for the RS4, and about $45k-$50k for the S4. The S4 will go on sale this year as an 06, but I think that the RS4 may come in 2006 as an '07 model.

what car does audi make thats supposed to be supercharged? ive never heard of a supercharged audi...turbocharged yes, but never supercharged...from what ive read the 4.2 is supposed to remain n/a...and the s4 has been on sale for a few months now

I could be wrong, but I think that the RS6 is supercharged.

twin-turboed 4.2 liter V8...to my knowledge audi hasnt used a supercharger on any current or even recent models

Oh, twin-turbo. Well Audi should start supercharging the engines to better compete with AMG.

Oh, twin-turbo. Well Audi should start supercharging the engines to better compete with AMG.

Why? why supercharge opposed to turbocharge? they are just two different ways to achieve the same goal. and why would this help them compete with AMG? are they even competing with AMG? look at the price you pay for the performance you get out of each of the makers, i think youll find that Audi isnt competing with Mercs AMG division. you can get comparable engines out of audi for consideribly less money. if Audi wanted to go after AMG it could, but thats not the image its going for. while they are both german luxury car companies they have very different approaches to getting a share of the market.

I was just using supercharged as an example. Either would work fine. But Audi's performance division (AudiSport) does compete with AMG more than BMW's M. The Merc C55 AMG directly comperes with Audi S4. In price and performance. You will see many comparo's of the E55 AMG vs. the M5 (no RS6). But the E55 AMG and the RS6 are also put head-to-head (no M5). Audi DOES want to compete with AMG more (Audi does already), but Audi doesnt have nearly enough models to give the "RS" treatment to.

Audi S4 = Merc C55 AMG (price and performance)
Audi RS6 = Merc E55 AMG (performance, E55 is cheaper)

well ill give you that those are good comparisons, but i still dont think that Audi is going after AMG with its S or RS line. And you hit it on the head, it doesnt give the RS treatment its cars. that comparo is a good esample of how the models line up, but Merc still has 8 other AMG models that Audi doesnt have a response for. i also think the fact that the only RS model to come out in several years was only a limited production (only intended for one year) shows that Audi may just be stepping into the ultra-high performance luxury car segment if really at all. i also feel that while the S4 to the C55 and the RS6 to the E55 is good, look at a comparo of performance and price for the RS6 (03, only model year) ato the M5 (03, last model year) and then the new S4 to the new M3 (though not a lot of info is out yet) and i think youll find that Audi IS going after BMW a lot more than its going after Merc.

True, I never thought of the previous gen M5... But the M3 (IMO) is more of a track car for the road, whereas the S4 is more of a road car for the track. If you catch my drift. I mean, one is a coupe, the other is a sedan. But when you factor in the M3 Convertable and the S4 Cabrio, then both are a little more road biased.

I hope this makes as much sense to you as it does to me.

yeah, im with you on that one. the M3 and the A4 are similar, but also very different.

Yes, different indeed. In an M3, you take to the track on Saturday and race. In the S4, you take the family to Grandma's house very fast on Tuesday.

These cars are like black and white.

Engine:
S4: 4.2L V8
M3: 3.2L I6

Drive Type:
S4: Quattro All Wheel
M3: Rear Wheel

Body Type:
S4: sedan
M3: coupe


Yet, oddly, they have a large grey area:

Price:
S4: $45,850
M3: $47,300

Power:
S4: 340hp @ 7000rpm
M3: 333hp @ 7,900rpm

Fuel Economy(city):
S4: 15mpg
M3: 16mpg

As you can see, these cars are similar, but different.

just to answer the original question...yes, the rs 4 is coming to the US, spring of 2006 according to car and driver. in their preview in july issue, they estimated around $55,000, but in the issue that i just got 2 days ago, they were estimating more like $80,000
and to go back to the earlier argument, the rs 4 is a naturally aspirated, 4.2L V8, and the rs 6 is twin-turboed, not supercharged check it out on caranddriver.com for proof

just to answer the original question...yes, the rs 4 is coming to the US, spring of 2006 according to car and driver. in their preview in july issue, they estimated around $55,000, but in the issue that i just got 2 days ago, they were estimating more like $80,000
and to go back to the earlier argument, the rs 4 is a naturally aspirated, 4.2L V8, and the rs 6 is twin-turboed, not supercharged check it out on caranddriver.com for proof

Let me ask ya'll a question, Audi is making the RS4 a non turbo 4.2 v8 that's going to produce over 410 hp. and the same engine is in the a8/a6 that's makes 335hp, and it's also the same engine that was in the old ones that made 300-310hp. plus it's the same engine that's in the RS6 Twin turbo that puts out 450hp. So my question what parts are they adding to rs4's engine? and how much would it coast to do the same mods to a a6, to produce over 400hp without the use of turbos.

I love audi with a passion but it seems there doing the same thing nissan is doing, with the 3.5L v.6 engines. it's the only size v6 they use, but in the hp seems to be either higher or lower in most their cars.

has to do with tuning. not exactly sure what they do but perhaps freer flowing intake and exhaust, more aggressiving timing, higher compression, etc. i would say all car makes do this to a certain extent where they use the same powerplant for several applications. nothing wrong with that.

has to do with tuning. not exactly sure what they do but perhaps freer flowing intake and exhaust, more aggressiving timing, higher compression, etc. i would say all car makes do this to a certain extent where they use the same powerplant for several applications. nothing wrong with that.


it saves car companies a lot of money

What are some of the exact differences (besides price) between the European RS 4 and the S4. They both have the 4.2L engine with a manual transmission and AWD.

A nice breakdown like porscheguy9999 did between the M3 and S4 would be awesome.

Thanks.

Let me ask ya'll a question, Audi is making the RS4 a non turbo 4.2 v8 that's going to produce over 410 hp. and the same engine is in the a8/a6 that's makes 335hp, and it's also the same engine that was in the old ones that made 300-310hp. plus it's the same engine that's in the RS6 Twin turbo that puts out 450hp. So my question what parts are they adding to rs4's engine? and how much would it coast to do the same mods to a a6, to produce over 400hp without the use of turbos.

I love audi with a passion but it seems there doing the same thing nissan is doing, with the 3.5L v.6 engines. it's the only size v6 they use, but in the hp seems to be either higher or lower in most their cars.


the new fsi technoligy will be put into the rs4 and higher rated intreanals will be put in which makes this one of the most lighest and high reving v8's

I hope I can scrape the clams together for this badboy someday.

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