Type R vs S2000 vs Civic w/spoon

I am about to graduate as a present from my father i am getting a better car. I have narrowed it down to A S2000(no money left for enhancements),Integra Type R(money left for alot of enhancements) or aCivic With a Spoon Engine(money for lots enhancements).

Who gets stuck w/ the bill!? :confused: :D

Anyway, aside from your delusions of F&F, the Spoon engine is very costly and is made for strictly road-racing meaning it's probably not street legal. Moreover, it has no torque... It's best driven at astronomical revs.
That said, from a ITR vs. S2000... I would choose an RSX Type S. It is also equipped with a 2000cc engine although differently designed than the S2000. Imho, they look sweet! I love those tails! And, close-ratio sequential 6 speed ownz you! Also, the aftermarket is moving quickly for the RSX. (Outfit it w/ JDM Type R stuff!)

Or, get the S2000 and save up for a Comptech supercharger... No more lack of torque!

i would go for a 98 civic hatch, get a spoon cf hood, a jdm b16, and some 16" rota slipstreams... (look like spoon rims but cheaper, 4 rotas for the price of one spoon)
then go crazy jdm on it with the cf duckbill wing and ctr front splitter...
apexi exh... all the gauges etc...
and turbo it. for fun...


drop on some coilovers with cusco or mugen strut braces, some nice sparco or corbeau seats... and still have money left over

also...

is your dad giving you a 40k limit, or are you buying a car that is done up? if that is the case, look for a way jdm'd civic from www.jdmhondaparts.com or see if someone from www.ff-squad.com is selling their car (talk to katman at jdmhondaparts.com)

I will not settle for you buying anything but an S2000!!!

Buy an S2000 right now! thats an order. :D

a del sol with a Spork engine would be faster.

why don't you bother *testdriving* them and tell us about what feels better??

i'd say get an s2000. it still puts out 250hp stock....getting an itr plus mods will get you to 250hp anyway. plus the s2000 looks a hell of alot better than the itr. plus you can go all out with the s2000. i have a video where some guy named tim lang or something tuned his s2k to 713hp. and the car is still street legal. i think thats amazing for a 4 cylinder. i'm really not a fan of the b18 engine but the f20c is one of a kind. get the s2000, you won't regret it.

s2k

its not even a question, get the s2k.

I'd say S2000 all the way. Great platform and it looks tight.

Originally posted by drift
a del sol with a Spork engine would be faster.

Hey, you have a link back to purehonda. Is the good ol' site back up and running?

probably the S2000, but i wouldnt mind a civic w/ spoon engine

There would be no point in buying an ITR, if you were to modify it. Your more likely to ruin the balance of the car than anything; unless your willing to spend big dollars and have your engine blueprinted and the whole works. And forget about the Spoon civic, for the track, not the road.

Your answer is the S2K! RWD, 240hp, 9000rpm and the best gearbox! A comptech supercharger would hurt either..

I searched the gov't auctions and got an 89 Corvette for $3500. I am now into it for about $15000. New suspension including Koni adjustables. Full Edelbrock preformance kit. Supercharger. I push nearly 900hp. I run the 1/4 mile in 9.3. My car costed about $20000 with paint and stereo. Can any of these $40,000 cars touch me, not.

if youve got a 40k limit like has been mentioned before toss in a couple extra dollars and grab one of these bad babies: 1996-1998 supra twin turbo limited edition 6 speed targa top

most have about $20k already under the hood, not hard to find ones already running 400-600 horses(or more!!) for the same price

http://autotrader.com/findacar/vdetail.jtmpl?car_id=103626522&dealer_id=&max_price=&start_year=1996&end_year=1998&address=95555&search_type=used&make=TOYOTA&model=SUPRA&min_price=&distance=any&advcd_on=n&advanced=n&color=&car_year=1998

check em out on auto trader, lots there

NISSAN SKYLINE R34 GT-R

spoon is out. you gotta rebuild the engine to change the oil.. fun fun...
so how bout vtec civic or type R hatch civic..
you dont realy want the s2000 so get the acura..
i love acuras. mostlly the new rsx.. dropped with phat wheels tinted windows. spoiler. and you will be ridden clean.

Spoon motors are great if thats all the faster you wanna be, plus their built for twentyfour hour racing, so you can rag that thing so hard that the chassis needs an overhaul before the motor will.

ITR is a great vehicle, and I heard alot of people mention its great balance from factory being a problem when tuning, which is true, but its no more balanced if it even is as balanced as an s2k. I donot believe this to be a contributing factor in your choice, anyways. By tuning the ITR, you havent wasted your money like people believe you have and think you should have just got a GSR, because you have a motor that is very sturdy at 8500 rpms, and those extra revs equate to about 25 or more hp evenin stock trim, then you tune and those 8k plus revs will bring you the gold my friend. The main problem that both the spoon civic and ITR face is the problems of front wheel drive. At the drags, wheel hop is your worst enemy, and thats happily something that the s2k doesnot suffer from.

This is the main reason hondas are poor off the line, not because of a lack of torque. Its all where you dump the clutch and if it can bite that power or not. I doubt the s2k would have trouble scortching the sixty foot in any more than 2 and a quarter, if even that long.

The RSX-S is a good choice, (I would say better than a 98 ITR) because like somebody in here already said its got the 6 speed gear box, and the K20 motor's torque curve is much smoother thanks to the continuous vairable timing honda tagged on the intake cam.

I would say get an s2k. Not only is it rear drive, but its 240hp, no headacks. You dont have to upgrade the cams... then find new springs... then a new computer... then maybe youve got the desired power you were looking for. No you start at 205hp on the ground back there. Its just so much easier with that car.

The supra would not be a bad choice if it was still new, instead your buying repair bills and tuning rag with your vehicle (which your probably going to run into with an ITR aswell). BTW you dont need nearly as much power as the supra makes to be as fast in an s2k. (In fact the supra is only a couple tenths quicker in the quarter with the same driver in both stock trim). The s2k is over 500lbs lighter. Last I checked the s2k weighed in a 2800lbs, and the supra 3500, which would actually be about 700lbs. Anyways its besides the point, and im not trying to bash the supra, its one of the best sport cars you can buy, but when its used, like all cars, you got problems.

I would definitely say, get an s2k.

Oh and BTW, nofx627, your either a comedian, or pretty ignorant.

The last time i checked, R34s ran you 90k over in the states.
Besides, a skyline is a waste of money in the states, there arent hardly any tuning shops for them to hit those big power numbers, and if you get a skyline and dont push for the big power numbers, then you Definitely wasted $90k. There are plenty of cars over here much faster for nearly half that cost. Anybody for a Z06?

The ITR has a good potential for modifications. The chassis is very strong, the handling is very good.

The ITR handling is the best in its category. Add 18'' and you will get a handling that is comparable to any car of the year that cost under 50000$ stock.

To add power, I'd go for a supercharger. That will give you about 250 HP.

I own a modified type R which has about 225 HP. I've beaten 2 S-2000. Mustang GTs, etc..

The integra also has the advantage to have 4 seats. And you can drive it throughout the year.

There are many modified integras out there. I'm sure you can get an ITR with 17''s or 18''s if you search a little bit. That will save you some money. You'll just have to add a supercharger. That's it that's all.