Head unit+ speakers

I am going to be buying a new head unit and speakers for my '01 Forester. I have selected two combos I can afford. Also, in the near future, I plan on buying an amp/sub combo form eDesign. Which of these two packages do you guys think is better?

Panasonic MXE CQ-C5410U Head
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-KbcTfYSyrZh/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?I=133C5410

Panasonic CJ-DD163 6.5" Speakers
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-KbcTfYSyrZh/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?s=0&c=10&g=52000&I=133CJDD163&o=p&a=1&cc=01&avf=Y&search=

$240

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Kenwood KDC-MPV5025 Head
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-KbcTfYSyrZh/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?s=0&c=3&g=62700&I=113MPV5025&o=p&a=1&cc=01&avf=Y&search=

Kenwood KFC-1669S 6.5" Speakers
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-KbcTfYSyrZh/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?s=0&c=10&g=52000&I=113KFC1669&o=p&a=1&cc=01&avf=Y&search=

Kenwood KFC-1069S 4" Speakers
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-KbcTfYSyrZh/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?s=0&c=10&g=51200&I=113KFC1069&o=p&a=1&cc=01&avf=Y&search=

$250

I personally would buy a Kenwood over a Panasonic. And Kenwood speakers are pretty good.

yea kenwood speakers are ok.. but why not try other brands? both kenwood and panasonic aren't know for their speakers.. just a suggestion

I would take the Panasonic HU over the Kenwood, I don't like them at all. Bleh on both the speakers... What is your price range?

don't go with either.....

My price range is $250. I like the services offered by Crutchfield (free shipping, free install kits, customer support, etc) I would prefer not to buy off ebay unless the deal is really good. I know you guys will recomend an alpine head but what about speakers?

Why not www.thezeb.com (http://www.thezeb.com)? do cdt and a headunit of your choice?

thanks for the link haibane, the Pioneer 7600 looks like a good deal, what do you guys think?
http://www.thezeb.com/detail.aspx?ID=8634

After really looking at the specs of that HU I realized the FM sensitivity of that Pioneer is only 8dbf. The Alpines and Kenwoods in the same price rane have 9.3dbf and Sanyos have 15!!! Does this number really matter? Is the difference so small it doesn't matter? Will it still have better reception than my factory radio?

I suggest you go with the Pioneer HU from The Zeb. I just bought some subs from there and there shipping was quick as hell....I really don't like the choices you had for the speakers. But if I had to chose, I'd chose the Panasonic over the Ken's, just because *shrugs*