My sorry attempt with markers...

Yea, umm, give me markers this is what i do..

http://tinypic.com/3zkgp

:loser:

What kind of paper?

Umm, i think its called bristol, i barrowed a sheet from my brother.

well your render has potential....remember lots of these guys use prismacolors in conjunction with the markers.

I asked about paper because I know they make a Paper for markers that is almost vellum like, and will allow you to use additives like bestine to smooth that color out some.

Bonz might have some good input for you.

Overall I like it though. There's a often used book called "Rendering with Markers" which is old now, but the techniques are still used and you're right there.

Do another one.

-Lemorris

p.s. widen the front a little and you might get that "mean" stance. NIce rim.

yea, ive seen like canson marker paper, i was actully planning on buying a pad, but the only one i could find was a fairly small size and a little beat up so i decided to wait on it.

Ill check that book next time im out. i was going to check out that design cars like pros book but didnt find it.

thanks for the crits.

wait this stuff is called paper for markers...it's almost like tracing paper. We used to use it in art school all the time. hold on.....

This is the stuff!!


http://www.dick-blick.com/items/106/04/10604-OA3ww.jpg

http://www.dickblick.com/zz106/04/products.asp?param=0&ig_id=930

It's really really cool.

The translucency is awesome because you can transfer with it then render a real tight comp. It also cuts real easy with an x-acto so you can piece stuff together...once agin I refer you to Bonz on this. He knows what I'm talkin bout here.

-Lemorris

oh.....

A lot like gesso-ing

on this paper you can push the color around to a certain degree. There is almost no "capillary action" (that's I went to art school in the late 80's talk for "bleed"), and it comes in big sheets.

ok....off the soap box, and back to my Buicks.

-Lemorris

Hmm, ive seen beinfang marker paper, but not that before. I guess ill have to take a trip over to dick blick and check it out..

Also ive never heard of using bestine before. Its like a thinner right?

That's right.

You can use a q-tip or something and dip it in the bestine and then smooth your marker color. It's a lot like a blending stump for pencil work.

The cool part is after you have your marker color blended or whatever you can use a white prisma or guache (thickened) to punch out highlights. Steve Stanford and people like that do it all the time.

-Lemorris

i like it, i think if you put a faint shadow to ground the vehicle and a streaked background it be really good. right now it is just "floating" on the paper the ground shadow and background would make it stand out.

Looks good so far. For now you may not like it, but you're creating a great foundation. Your base is great, now just keep practicing.

For paper, this is my opinion. I used regular graphite sketch paper for a while. You learn to control/use the bleeding to your advantage. If you draw big enough, you don't notice it either. If the drawing turns out a good 12x18 or so, it will only be 800x600 on the computer screen, so the lines look nice and blended. If you really wanna go all out, I'd get Letraset Bleedproof Marker Pad. That's wht I use, it holds the pastel very well, bleeds to a minumum, and the markers stack nicely, no problems. Careful where you get it though, some places will rip you off. I use A2 sized pad.

Looking good! The front looks a little off perspective, and the wheels are off-center (don't knowe whether this is on-purpose or not). The rendering is great though especially the chrome effect on the rims. Are you going to finish it/do more views?

It's not as bad as the thread title makes it seem, actually it's pretty good. I'd like to see you do something with that special marker paper.

hey thats pretty good! Kinda looks like an rx8 to me. the only thing I notice: IRL, the front tire would only be about 1/4 of an inch thick. btw: did you use markers for the front grill too?

hey thats pretty good! Kinda looks like an rx8 to me. the only thing I notice: IRL, the front tire would only be about 1/4 of an inch thick. btw: did you use markers for the front grill too?

I did the shading i wanted for it then went over the marker with a micron pen, the smallest size one, to get the grill effect.

Heres the second one i did later that night. Supposed to be ford. dont know why.

http://tinypic.com/41hyb

I dont kno why but that looks like one big front fender, I think its the positioning of the headlights, grill etc. I take it you still have to finish the rear wheel? I like the look, keep em coming.

I'd move the orange blinkers over a bit, it will fill that huuuuge empty space infront of the front wheels. Kinda too late though :P

Oh well, i did them very fast becuase i was anxious to practice rendering it. Not much thought went into the sketches. And ive yet to come up with a good technique for doing the windsheild...

Looks like a futuristic Ford Focus to me. Nice rims!

looks way better than what i can do ;)