Show your Interest in a 1:12 Skyline Detail Kit

As many of you have been asking, I have been really considering doing a Limited run (say 25 off) of a Super Detail Kit for the Fujimi Large Scale (1:12) Skyline R32 GT-R. Based on the work I have been doing on mine here (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=260169):

I'm thinking of including the following:

4 off Machined Aluminium Brake discs as I have made for mine.
Full set of Machined Suspension units c/w springs.
1 off Stainless Steel Big Bore Exhaust (Pre-Coloured up)
1 off set of Machined Aluminium Drive shafts
1 off Machined Aluminium Brake Cylinder
1 off Machined Aluminium Brake Reservoir
1 off Machined Aluminium Clutch Cylinder
1 off Machined Aluminium Clutch Reservoir
1 off Sheet of Photo etch parts (For Engine Bay and interior, Pedals, dash, seat belts, Wiper, Badges, Exhaust Flanges, Throttle linkage, etc.)
Possibly other items as well.

CD containing : Nissan Workshop Manual of the R32, Various Skyline Photos.
Instructions etc.

All presented in a nice box set.

A few Questions to ask you guys :
How much would you pay, as there is no point in making it so expensive no one would buy it (this is the starting point as machine parts can be expensive as we know).

So is this worth doing ? Let me know.

BTW I’m not really interested in making money from this just, like to give something back .



Thanks

whoa hell yea it is i would buy/get 1 in a heart beat :)

Um...well I hate skylines, and Im not sure. So I guess I will change the poll stats so it looks like I voted twice. :evillol: Just kidding.

Honestly, I might buy one just to have the cool parts.

I'd buy one!! It would be the ultimate Skyline model for me!! I have no idea where I'd put the completed kit but It would be cool as h3ll!! :iceslolan :sunglasse

i wouldnt want the whole kit, but if u made a couple different size universal turbos and maby a manifold for a couple cars (integra, supra, skyline and maby v-8s) im sure they would sell like wildfire!

I would probably get one. I am still sitting on my hands, waiting for enough $ to get the 1:12 kit (yeah, I know I've spent that much in the past couple months on 1:24, shut up!). I can't imagine not building this model to the most extreme level of detail possible, so if it wasn't... more than 2x the cost of the kit, I'd seriously consider A Hiroboy grade-up set. I'm already pretty consistently buying some sort of grade-up set for all my kits these days. I would love the set, though, since I really shouldn't hold my breath for the 1:12 S2000.

Also, I'm sure you already understand this, but it just calls to be said: be wary of the interest shown here. There will be huge interest on AF, but in the end, and not to be mean to the folks here, I don't imagine all the interest will become sales. "Yeah I want that!" doesn't necessarily mean "I will certainly buy one."

Also, I'm sure you already understand this, but it just calls to be said: be wary of the interest shown here. There will be huge interest on AF, but in the end, and not to be mean to the folks here, I don't imagine all the interest will become sales. "Yeah I want that!" doesn't necessarily mean "I will certainly buy one."

Completely true. Like I said, I think it would be awesome to have one. But I cant give you my word and say that I will, because honestly if i bought it, I'd just display the parts. I guess it depends on the price as well.

i would buy it in a heart beat if i had the money. sounds like a great idea. but maybe include more custom made parts like the turbos.

oh yeah i would get one the pieces you've done so far are great detail for the skyline :sunglasse .

I think that you should only make parts that will be very visible and worth the price. for exemple turbos, exhaust, brakes, suspension, PE parts... other things that go under-that-thing-we-cant-see doesn't really HAVE to be made i think. of course it's a lot more fun to add a lot of detailled metal pieces, but the price gets up a lot, and in the end you won't really notice the difference when everything is glued in.

btw i wouldn't buy it, simply because i cant afford both the kit and an upgrade kit. i can't even buy SAS stuff ! lol

Alot of the replies here say that they would buy one if they could afford it, yet there is no stated price at this time. I guess you need to figure out the base total for all materials you are going to need to use and how much to ship the item. I think it would be unfair of anyone here to expect you to not make a little money for your time, research and packaging and shipping.

The level of detail you are achieving is right up there with the Scale Motorsport detail sets (and we know how much these can be) Don't forget that there may be some people that buy the kit from you and then turn around and sell it on ebay as a one-of-a-kind detail kit and make 3 times what you charged them. I myself am not a huge Skyline fan...but I do have a couple of Tamiya's to build. I do not have the 1/12 scale kit and don't forsee me getting one anytime soon. Now if you put this much effort into a F1 detail set I would come to your door and get it.

I would be interested in getting a set. Since the retail price of this super detail set would have a big impact on this potental project; I suggest to do another poll to determine the MSRP. :cheers:

If a Hiroboy grade-up was available it justify me buying the Nismo R32.

I would have to see the engine bay to figure whether or not machined turbos/manifold would be needed.

The S-Tune engine bay is packed to where you can't see the turbos but that could be different with the 1:12.

Price.....I can't really call that one. Like you said, not so much that no one would buy it but I wouldn't expect cheap either.

Hey.....I plunked down $525 for the SMS Porsche kit,and it was not that terrific. I love 1/12 scale. If it was less than $200, I'd get it!! In fact I'd probably be first in line.

You got me in on buying one if you made it. I'll be second in line behind PRIVATEER

I couldn't even afford the 1/12 Skyline, so i definately wouldn't be able to afford a detail set. But im sure some people would want one.

If I can afford to buy the 1/12 Skyline, I'll definately buy the detail set... if I have extra cash :lol:

its a tough one.

the kit would no doubt be awsome but it just wouldn't be right seeing more of these mostors around. It would meen that the HiroGTR in production now wouldn't be a unique kit.

I think giving people a tuition (as you are now) and giving them the ideas and processes to follow to make their own would be better, as all would have some form of uniqueness.


I may get flamed majorly for this way of thinking but it is the way I see it.

I will be using Steves tuition to one day make my own customised monster to go with the 1:12 I already have.

would you offer the turbos too ? and could you actually do this on any scale of production ? i asked a friend who has a tuning company (Kalin Motorsport) if he could make shock absorbers and he said that it'd be easier for him to make me a set of real shock for the car on the CNC machines than design model ones and produce them.

I'm with tazdev. It might be easier for me to buy it from Steve but by giving tuition or "how to's", there might be more creative ideas that can be shared from each other in building their own unique 1/12 scale Skylines. Anyway, this is just my :2cents:

I'm not in the market for that kind of kit (substitute Williams FW14B for Skyline and it would be a differnet story!). However I think it would be fantastic if you could produce and sell some detail kits. It would be well deserved if you could turn your hobby and talent into a lucrative sideline. I understand where Tazdev is coming from but there is no reason why we can't have the best of both worlds. Continuing progress threads and some hardware for those with the cash and desire. Not many of us are fortunate enough to have a lathe and build our own parts.

P.S. Have you considered the time and effort required to produce instructions?

Steve, would $300 be low-balling you, considering how limited production is?
Also, I've never seen metal brake/clutch master cylinder reservoirs, shouldn't those be plastic?

if they were available, id get one

Steve, after admiring your work, I would definitely buy a T/kit.

In terms of price, I would be prepared to pay around £40 GBP, give or take a few quid :naughty:

Not even thought about the money factor, it's just that as a beginer (3-4 years) im hooked on 1/24th scale.
Your work is amazing Steve & maybe one day i myself will invest in a 1/12th kit.

Mike :smokin:

i had a change of heart last night about this i dont think you should make this because then everybody will look at your work year or 2 from now and say i have that right here that will make your work less unqie

Yes please. I've tried to contact U Hiroboy by email and yea U'r work is so great that I would very much like to buy that set from U! U'r the chief U name the price! Oh, and when u start selling them be sure that the payment options are easy (ie. Paypal, don't wanna advertise any) it's just that some online companies have only money order as a payment option when ordered abroad. That takes too long.

:naughty:

well even though i don't have time but hell man i want a set man~!!!!

I didn't scrutinize every post but a couple things I was thinking.

1- how hard is it to get the 1:12 skyline now-a-days?
I just searched ebay and came up with two 1:12 fujimi skyline's, $110-$120.

2- I would want the turbo's, even if they increase the cost, they are quite possibly the coolest parts you've made. But I don't see that you included them.

Personally, I wouldn't need any fancy packaging if you did this. But I know you'll do it, and it'll be cool :lol2:


in short, yes, I would consider purchasing. But I need more info before I could give you a definate "yes" :D

Turbos, brakes & etch definately, not sure about the others. The turbos and brakes you made are simply spectacular.

If I was building a 1:12 Skyline, I'd probably pay around £30 for the above three.

I didn't count the costs when I purchased the kit. I ordered it from japan (HLJ) and it cost approx 127€ (the kit was 70€, shipping 30 and taxes+customs fee 27€). It's funny how our customs calculate the shipping costs as part of the products price, BUT HEY, name one thing we Finnish people don't pay taxes, so whos counting AKA myincometax%is22!! :loser:

Turbos, brakes & etch definately, not sure about the others. The turbos and brakes you made are simply spectacular.

If I was building a 1:12 Skyline, I'd probably pay around £30 for the above three.

Not sure if you would find any 1:12 detail sets for £30 never mind with metal brake discs etc.

I think this will NOT be done as it seems that most would not acually buy the set.
Maybe just offer seperate parts rather than a boxed set.

My bad, I assumed you'd be casting them in resin, rather than making each set from metal...

Not sure if you would find any 1:12 detail sets for £30 never mind with metal brake discs etc.

I think this will NOT be done as it seems that most would not acually buy the set.
Maybe just offer seperate parts rather than a boxed set.

That sounds awesome.

Obviously, the whole package would be cheaper than each part separately?! One who buys the set has to choose each on their own wether to use the whole package or not, its still cheaper! That's my opinion.

So Hiroboy, let us know where do we stand at this point? Do we get these parts or not?

Hiroboy's upgradeparts for 1:12 Skyline... allright...i'll order one car and yes...i will pay what you ask.... as long as its cheaper than buy real one :grinno:

If I were rich I qould be interested, but as it is, I can't even afford the paint for my in progress kit right now :D

Hiroboy, why not offer them on a 'as needed' basis. Establish a price for each part, and people can order what they need. You can also offer combo prices. If things take off well, then start considering going a little bigger scope and making more professional looking box sets. For now, if I was you, not knowing how much demand there will be, and how much of a time drain on your own resources this will be, I would try it on a 1-off basis.

Although I do have one of the 1/12 Skyline kits I'd only say "YES" if it were a more universal detailing kit! Wheels are a huge problem in 1/12 scale and to have more options would be terrific and save me from machining a set. I do have access to a number of tires and I'm considering doing a few sets of Torque Thrust wheels in resin with machined rims and maybe some Fikse M5's. Brembo brakes (yours were great!) would be adaptable to any 1/12 kit, as would gauge sets, seats, steering wheels, turbos, etc... That would get my attention!
The market for a kit specific set, especially considering the small numbers of most any 1/12 kit out there would push me towards a more universal set, even at a limited run...
I've had a few one-off P/E sets made, they cost about $350.00 to do up front but then you have your "tooling" so it gets very cheap from there.
If it were a well done kit and offered alot of options I'd be willing to part with $175.00-200.00 for one. That's about what I've paid for Scale Motorsports super-detail kits in the past.
:2cents:

I'd say if yo uare looking into making machined part sets Hiro, make machined parts instead. it'd broaden your field of buyers, people may want to buy some 1:12th turbos to put in the Revell 1:12th 1969 Camaro or brakes and a muffler on their 1:12 RX7.