ENGINE Swap

this has been posted before. but o well. Oki want to put a 4.3L v6 in my truck i have a 2.2 4 cyl rightb now 95. I am tryin to c how much this would cost and if i could do the swap by myself or if i would need some echanic to do it for me. If its gonna be 3 grand and a lot of work i will just go with a turbo. ANyone do any engine swaps here?? and if so wat did u do about the tranny and wat not?

i dont think il be 3 grand if you get a motor from a junk yard or something but a new one will be alot but i dont realy kno how much it would cost exacly

if you are going from a 2.2 to a v6 you should just go to the v8. It is the same amount of work and you get a bigger engine. if you play your cards right, and get a carbarated motor and then do it by yourself without a mechanic... you could do the v8 swap for $1000-1500!! so i would jump on that boat. You will need a tranny also with the engine. Then get the kit off the internet that includes a radiator, the frame mounts, the headers, and the book... HAPPY SWAPPING!!!

c dude i dont need to be wasting gas. I just need a v6 cand plus witht he v6 i dont need to new headers and shit just new mounting brakets. I want to keep it simple. So any good tips for something like this
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don't argue with him, he is completely right.

A V8 swap will be more fuel efficient seeing if won't have to work as hard as the V6.

If you are swapping up from a 4 banger, go V8.

It is cheaper, more power for the money and has a lot more potential than any blown V6.

You need to listen to people who know what they are talking about instead of arguing when they give you proper advice.

well ok dude well i will listen to him. But if i do this y guys need to help me out. Cause the v6 would have been wasy simple but v8 ehhhh. tell me wat to do where to get my stuff. and i am so down

There is a manual to do this on Ebay and online, search through google for V8 s10 guide.

Trust me, you will be doing the same work for a V6 that you will be doing for a V8.

Make it count so you won't be disappointed.

i just looked in ebya for it no go. Where else?

google for it.

all i can find is v6 to v8. can u guys help me out here?

You Guys Are Right A V8 Will Be More Fuel Efficient Than A 4 Cyl But You Are Failing To Tell S-10kid That The Rear Diff Gearing Will Have To Be Lowered. Since The V8 Has More Power You Want To Lower The Gearing So It Brings The Rpm Down. The 4 Cyl Gearing Is Higher Because It Has Less Torque. If You Were To Keep The 4 Cyl Gearing And Drop In A 8 Cyl. For Exampe: Say The 4 Cyl Is Geared At 60mph To Have An Rpm Of 3000rpm (in Top Trans Gear Only) If You Drop In A V8 Well Then Your Rpm Will Be At ~3000rpm At 60mph And That Will Definetly Drain Into Your Fuel Costs. You Will Need To Lower The Rear Diff Gear Or Obtain A Tranny That Can Drop That 60mph Rpm To ~1500rpm. If Your Purchasing A Aftermarket Modified Tranny Then They Will Most Likely Ask You What Gearing You Want In It. If Your Purchasing A Used Stock Tranny Then Your Restricted To That Trannies Gearing Unless You Change It Yourself. Try And Get As Close To 1500 Rpm At 60mph As Possible Otherwise You Gas Mileage Will Be Affected Drastically. Good Luck!

True, I honestly think s-10 is WAY over his head on this.

Too much highly technical engine and body work for someone with limited knowledge.

Not being rude, just being honest.

I kinda agree with blazer. But like i can drop it in there and i kno about the gearing and wat not. my only prob is finding a kit to do this. But damn if i only had 3 'gs i can get a s-10 with a v8

This Is Not Any Easy Swap S-10kid. There Is Mechanical And Electrical Skills Involved. Basic Hand Tools Might Be Able To Get It Done But Your Going To Want Air Tools And Other Specailaty Tools To Get The Job Done Quicker And Easier. If You Dont Have At Least 2 Out Of 3 Of These Things I Have Mentioned I Would Not Attempt. I Would Recommend Trying To Find A Turbo Kit That Bolts Up With No Modifications. I Am Assuming You Can R&r Parts. A Turbo 4 Cylinder Will Give You => Power Than A 6 Cylinder. Good Luck!

It's not so much the putting it together.

The big problem is diagnosing a problem and fixing it if something isn't right after the install.

Amen to that! I'm having that kind of problem myself. LOL

go 350 in it. if you get a trans, go 350 turbo. not 700r4. the 400 turbo will fit but you need to cut the fire wall back, pain in the ass. you want the JTR Chevrolet S-10 Truck V-8 Conversion Manual. dont start the job with out it.

check this out kid, still get the book http://www.customconversion.com/Pages/Chevrolet_S-10_V-8.html
GOOD LUCK

there is a site... its http://www.gmpartsdepot.com/crate_motor.htm you can buy many motors there, but they are all rebuilt to bran new specs. they have a 4.3 on there for around 2 grand, and they have supercharged 2.2. there are also a ton for v8's but some of these engines can get very exspensive, just so you can go and browse around to see the specs on the engines and give you a better idea of the kind of power each motor will give you.

Or go here

http://www.chevy-gas-diesel-engines.com/

Half the price and triple the warranty! Yeeeha!

see guys i have been thinking of this for months now....i have a 4.3 in my 94 and waiting to make money to start 383
I already have the 355 near complete i bought it for$1,250 and it has 270 magnum cam roller rockers if 0 is stock and high performance is 10 this motor is a 5 straight down the middle is every aspect.....so u can buy a good motor for pretty cheap....Im planning on going all out with the chassis though.... tube chassis 9' ford rear 4 link suspension system...the whole deal..but yeah V6 over V8 now ay..the money is going to be basically the same V8 all the way...try a junk yard first look for camaros or vette...get LS1 or something similar

yes, for sure, a low mileage LT1 would do NICELY!!

I do not know how old this post is but has anyone who answered actually done this swap?? It does not sound like it. I have put a V8 w/ 700R4 in my 95 S-10 P/U and a V6 w/ 5spd in an 87 Blazer. The V8 fits 94 and up P/U's easier than older but it is a lot of work to make the right size raditor fit so the engine will cool. The V6 is a direct bolt in with factory parts, newer radiator ( I used a 91 ) fits with only minor mod of moving the A/C lines and using the shroud from a 91. As to trans, stick with the orginal type just newer. Makes things easier. If anyone wants to respond to me email is [email protected]

I also have a 1987 s-10 with a 500 ci Caddy motor/trans mounted in the P/U bed. A real head-turner.

The v6 swap is easy. If you want any help, just ask me.

I have done this swap in the past and the major reccomendation I can give is to use a short-shaft water pump. This will gain you about 1" to 1 1/2" at the front. I did not have to cut anything out to make engine and trans fit. I used a 3-core rad w/ electric fans and put it in the orignal location.
The only thing I had to do was hammer the trans tunnel a bit for clearance on the transmission. I also did not use any aftermarket kit. I made my own mounts and welded them directly to the frame.

I'm in the works of small block swap on my 94. It isn't as easy as it looks. If you have no mechanical skills then don't do it!

A 4.3 is a direct bolt in kind of. You'd have to have the correct harness, motor mounts and trans since the 60* & 90* and 4 cyl all have different bolts patterens. Also the trans cross member isn't the same and drive shafts.

The JTR conversion book doesn't say that it's easy and thier right! You could do some half ass hack job if your into that but if your doing something major like a V8 swap do it right! I've seen way to many hack jobs done and I shack my head in anger.

swapping a v-8 engine into a blazer will require a new tranny, either way you will need a new tranny, however i think the v-6 would be easier on gas, depending on whats done to it and how easy he is on the pedal, however a v-8 would give you unmistakable power over the v-6, its your choice, however if you want a v-8 in a s-10 truck or blazer, and you have 3 grand, personally i would just look on ebay and buy the truck with everything swapped already. otherwise if you wanna keep the truck you already have, a turbo wouldnt be such a bad idea, however there is alot involved in a turbo, depending on the pressure you want to run, your lookin at internals, not to mention running oil lines and stuff and possibly an intercooler if you really wanna make power with a turbo. thats juat one mans opinion though.
-Ryan-

V8 will have the same economy or even better than a V6 seeing it won't be working as hard.

It's not so much the putting it together.

The big problem is diagnosing a problem and fixing it if something isn't right after the install.
blazer it is so u have hit the nail on the head its all the after drop that takes the wo rk and time u must be very neat and clean it cost more in small parts and harness

Not sure if I'll get in trouble for posting a link to another forum but this might help. Check out http://www.v8s10.org/forum/index.php. It is a site strictly set up for a V8 into S-10 conversion. I myself am planning on doing this b/c I am getting a 350/400 turbo trans for free. I just have to rebuild the engine. I have been doing extensive research on anything and everything for my truck for the past few weeks. There is a lot of thought that needs to go into it and then you have to ask yourself are you willing to do it. Myself, I am looking forward to it and the knowledge I will get out of it. Granted, the fact that I have never attempted anything of this magnitude before will make it a challenge, but a fun challenge. Good luck in doing your swap. Btw.. I would go with the V8 over a V6. There are some posts on the board linked above that talk about gas mileage difference between the engines. From what I recall the difference was very small, if any at all. Put the V8 in and go dust some kid with a few grand invested in making his car look cool.

ok, im in the same boat this other s10 is in, i have a 4, want a 6, not and 8. i do need to pass smog. wont happen with an 8 and i dont want to pay 150$+ to smog for a hardcopy. any help? i have the engine and the tools and a mechanic. i just want to know pitfalls and whats different, wiring, any sensors that are on the 6 and not the 4 ect. anyone here?

ok, im in the same boat this other s10 is in, i have a 4, want a 6, not and 8. i do need to pass smog. wont happen with an 8 and i dont want to pay 150$+ to smog for a hardcopy. any help? i have the engine and the tools and a mechanic. i just want to know pitfalls and whats different, wiring, any sensors that are on the 6 and not the 4 ect. anyone here?

What year is your truck, and the engine that you plan on installing? Plus do you have the complete parts truck?

You'll need to rob several parts off a simular s-10 to keep the costs down, like as much of the exhaust as possible, engine bay wire harness, computer, motor mounts.

Take photo's of everything as your going along,and mark on a peice of tape on every wire, hose, etc where it comes from.

Before you start talk to your mechanic and see if it's worth it.

Your probably better off to sell the truck, and the motor seperately.... and just buy a v6 s-10

check it out. normally you would be right, BUT. i have put 9 grand into a custom system i built by hand. did a 5/6 drop on it myself and done custom dash, 18 inch chrome rims and PLENTY of other mods. shaved all the way through. i want this truck. sorry, otherwise you would definatly be right. and im sure your sitting there thinking, this kids an ididot. if he wanted a 6, why didnt he start out with one. well i didnt have the resources to get one. anyways, i have a 98. the engine is a 96. same model. i have the ecu and mounts already. all harnesses on the ecu are the same so it should be a direct swap. i am all for robbing s10s. alpha street knows me well. its a street with about 20 junkyards on it. i dont have a problem with the work. just need to know what to do.

check it out. normally you would be right, BUT. i have put 9 grand into a custom system i built by hand. did a 5/6 drop on it myself and done custom dash, 18 inch chrome rims and PLENTY of other mods. shaved all the way through. i want this truck. sorry, otherwise you would definatly be right. and im sure your sitting there thinking, this kids an ididot. if he wanted a 6, why didnt he start out with one. well i didnt have the resources to get one. anyways, i have a 98. the engine is a 96. same model. i have the ecu and mounts already. all harnesses on the ecu are the same so it should be a direct swap. i am all for robbing s10s. alpha street knows me well. its a street with about 20 junkyards on it. i dont have a problem with the work. just need to know what to do.

I wouldn't think that your an idiot for wanting a 6 banger. There still good motors, and the body is what counts for projects. I pretty well completely re-built mu 85 Blazer, and re-built the 2.8L for it. I wish that I had dropped in a 3.4L comaro 6 cylinder since it's a bolt in mod.

And of course now that it's prety much finished I'm sitting on a recently re-built 350 high compression RV motor, just scratching my head thinking that would sure go good in my blazer 4x4. but naw, I'll keep the 2.8L in it for now.